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Take-Two Sues 3D Realms Over Duke Nukem Fail

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May 15, 2009 11:24:31 PM

"Who knows if we'll ever see it" Wow. Just wow. At this point, do we still need to repeat the line that has been tied to this game since I was in HS? Will we ever see it? No. Even if someone else picks up the rights, it wouldn't be the same game we've been mocking for 12 years. Duke Nukem forever is dead.
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May 15, 2009 11:29:33 PM

Probably what Take-Two is going for here is ownership of whatever game content was already created as well as possession of the name and previous IP, since 3d Realms obviously has no money left to pay out a lawsuit. Presumably they'd hand it over to another developer so that it might actually be created someday or perhaps simply sell it if they're taken too big a loss on this already to invest more.
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May 15, 2009 11:31:12 PM

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“Apogee continually delayed the completion date for the Duke Nukem Forever,” Take-Two said in the complaint, according to Bloomberg. “Apogee repeatedly assured Take-Two and the video-gaming community that it was diligently working toward competing development of the PC Version of the Duke Nukem Forever.”


Take-Two must have some real clever lawyers. I mean, use what they've been saying for many years before Take-Two gave them money, as an argument as to way they've taken a relatively shorter period of time to do what they've be supposedly doing for over a decade.
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May 15, 2009 11:41:18 PM

the fact that it was called duke nukem FOREVER tipped me off a while ago.
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May 15, 2009 11:50:04 PM

Hey Valve!! nice opportunity here!! If I had the money.......
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May 16, 2009 12:22:36 AM

The game has been one big joke perpetrated by 3D Realms on the gaming community. The joke itself is in the name of the game obviously with "Forever" in the title. In fact, I believe it has been a form of mockery. This should turn into a class action lawsuit by the entire gaming community on 3D Realms or whoever owns it. Consider how much time people have wasted checking the 3D Realms website in anticipation of that game, which was promised to the community but never made. How do you remedy something like that even through the legal system? This would be a different case had they continued work on the title and eventually made good on their promise, but sometimes "When it's done" just is not good enough.
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May 16, 2009 12:36:08 AM

Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.
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May 16, 2009 12:52:17 AM

jkflipflop98Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.

And then another 5 years for the SDK... if they even decide to make one.
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May 16, 2009 1:04:33 AM

I hope Take-Two is not suing for money, LOL , didnt 3d realms go under for lack of moola?
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May 16, 2009 1:07:42 AM

I JUST WANT THE FRIGGIN GAME!
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May 16, 2009 1:08:21 AM

jkflipflop98Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.


Valve doesn't have the right attitude to make DNF. For it to be a real sequel, it has to be aggressively juvenile in tone, and Valve hasn't made anything like that as far as I know.

Croteam could probably do a decent job, possibly Rockstar, and a few other developers... but really a game like DNF would go over horribly today. The average age of gamers has gone up substantially and the people who played DN3D are nearly all in their twenties or older, so the kind of stupidly juvenile humor that characterized Duke would be pretty soundly rejected by the target market. They'd probably claim it sucked and wasn't the same, but really, that kind of thing simply doesn't appeal to anyone over about 13.
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May 16, 2009 1:13:18 AM

I think Croteam would be best at it. They should throw Sam in there as an easter egg. :lol: 
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May 16, 2009 3:38:33 AM

"hmm...3d realms is going under...LETS SUE THEM!"


jkflipflop98Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.


whats another 12 years in this industry?
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May 16, 2009 4:05:55 AM

i hope they sue their azzes
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May 16, 2009 4:10:46 AM

This game could easily become Game of the Year, if they tried
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May 16, 2009 5:25:31 AM

demonhorde665oh this is a new f-ing low for take two, they couldtn buy the ip form goerge so they isntead sue for it , the a-holes. they paid money for it ?? i thought the game was beign fuly funded by 3DR. if they really cared for it taht much why didnt tehy just front 3DR the money theya sked for ???i hope Take two gets absolutely ZERO for this low effort of theirs

Take-Two have every right to sue them. When you invest $12 million into a game for publishing rights and it doesn't even get finished after 12 years I think you'd want your money back. 3D Realms are the epitomy of incompetence and are going to get burned for it. Serves them right.
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Anonymous
May 16, 2009 6:06:11 AM

Maybe this'll be like GnR and Chinese Democracy. If it's ever finished, everyone gets a free Dr. Pepper.
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May 16, 2009 6:08:14 AM

So, Take-Two is suing 3D Realms for going bankrupt??? ... well done Take-Two, well done ... you must have some great minds working at your helm.
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May 16, 2009 6:12:53 AM

HMMMM,methinks they should have been sued like maybe 8 or ten years ago,,when they had some mooola..:) 
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May 16, 2009 6:37:10 AM

Core2uuSo, Take-Two is suing 3D Realms for going bankrupt??? ... well done Take-Two, well done ... you must have some great minds working at your helm.

You didn't read the article did you. They are suing them for sitting on their hands for 12 years while getting paid for it. 3D Realms only went broke because Take-Two pulled funding prior to starting this lawsuit. Why would you keep funding someone you want to sue? I guess they have good minds at their helm, makes sense to me.
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May 16, 2009 9:56:43 AM

Core2uuSo, Take-Two is suing 3D Realms for going bankrupt??? ... well done Take-Two, well done ... you must have some great minds working at your helm.


Take-Two is suing 3DRealms for the $12 million dollars it put toward a game that is no closer to production today than it was 10 years ago. $12 million is not pocket change and Take-Two deserves to get that money back.
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May 16, 2009 10:38:47 AM

Yeah baby, sue them, get the rights back and give them to someone who can actually finish it. 12 years wtf did they do in that time, even i would have finished it :) )
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May 16, 2009 1:46:51 PM

Wow. They just realized they're being played? I don't know how they survived if they think that way...... Yeah, for some reason I'm confused why a company isn't using company greed right now..... >.
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May 16, 2009 7:21:13 PM

the most confusing thing- to me- is that in 1999, the game was near-completion. I remember seeing a 9-minute video of the gameplay, and it went through several levels. I don't understand why they couldn't have jut released that. I remember reading that they switched engines for better graphics and physics, but it's not always about that. Castle Crashers and Rez are pretty simple, but I love them.
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May 16, 2009 8:12:58 PM

They deserve to be sued. How can anyone fail so hard at anything for this long?

Talk about Epic Fail!
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Anonymous
May 16, 2009 8:43:47 PM

man duke nukem is so 1990s ... even if it were released today it would be irrelevant. 3drealms really dropped the ball on this one taking 12 years to come out with a sequel...

and this to someone that bought the original, the plutonium pack, the atomic edition a few times over ...

you suck 3drealms.
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May 16, 2009 8:50:39 PM

If this game were to ever appear on shelves, I would still be a disappointment. Even if Duke Nukem Forever could come close to Half Life 2's quality it would still have the decade+ of crap circling around it. I don't think modern technology could make any game say to me "yes that was worth 12+ years of development."
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May 16, 2009 9:21:40 PM

What happen if this title in the hands of Crytek or Infinity Ward. That will be awesome. The property is up for bid the last time I've heard. I'm willing to offer 12 cents for it. Hey, I'm willing to offer something and that's rare.
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May 17, 2009 2:10:13 AM

demonhorde665THEY NEVER FUNDED the development of DNF , 3dr was payign for it otu of thier own pockets , take two only paid apogee (not 3dr) for publishing rights to the title there is BIG BIG difference again get your facts strait amigo !

Apogee is the "legal" name of 3D Realms. They are the same company. Get your own facts straight... amigo.
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May 17, 2009 3:04:03 AM

It took "forever" to "nuke" the game so get over it. It's not the best and we all can live without it since it took so long.
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May 17, 2009 6:00:04 AM

norbsthe fact that it was called duke nukem FOREVER tipped me off a while ago.


well it certainly takes forever
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Anonymous
May 17, 2009 2:39:03 PM

Looks like they discovered the secret to longevity in the video game industry - work on the same project for 12 years and never release. Other developers get bounced from project to project, company to company, in a never ending game of relocate, find a new apartment, etc. I applaud their efforts. They managed to work 12 years at a high paying, creative tech job, padding their resume with all kinds of good stuff, without ever actually shipping product. That's the American dream my friends.
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May 17, 2009 6:09:50 PM

demonhorde665THEY NEVER FUNDED the development of DNF , 3dr was payign for it otu of thier own pockets , take two only paid apogee (not 3dr) for publishing rights to the title there is BIG BIG difference again get your facts strait amigo !


Does'nt change the fact they paid 12 Millions for the publishing rights of a game that will not release cause of Apogee or 3DRealms or Whatever.
There IS a contract to oblige to when doing that kind of business, and nobody but those involved saw those lines. So nobody but the court and those involved can really have their facts straight, all people can do is speculate, and it's everyone's right too.
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May 17, 2009 6:56:30 PM

lol.. i'm loving the pic.. goes well with the topic!
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May 18, 2009 2:14:49 PM

misnadlol.. i'm loving the pic.. goes well with the topic!


Actually, The correct picture would be ol' Duke bending a gamer over a PC, cornholing him and saying something witty like "Your face. Your ass. What's the difference?"
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May 18, 2009 2:44:30 PM

MitrovarrValve doesn't have the right attitude to make DNF. For it to be a real sequel, it has to be aggressively juvenile in tone, and Valve hasn't made anything like that as far as I know.Croteam could probably do a decent job, possibly Rockstar, and a few other developers... but really a game like DNF would go over horribly today. The average age of gamers has gone up substantially and the people who played DN3D are nearly all in their twenties or older, so the kind of stupidly juvenile humor that characterized Duke would be pretty soundly rejected by the target market. They'd probably claim it sucked and wasn't the same, but really, that kind of thing simply doesn't appeal to anyone over about 13.


I'm 32 and thought duke3d was 4 in the morning. I would love to see it released. Amidst all the PC BS, queer marriages, and corrupt politicians and ceo's, I think this is exactly the escape gamers need. Maybe it wouldn't hurt to digress to a time when things were a little more black and white.
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May 18, 2009 4:26:51 PM

EPIC GAMES MAKE DUKE NUKEM FOREVER-GEARS OF WAR STYLE!!!!!!
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Anonymous
May 18, 2009 7:06:22 PM

I wonder if this game would have worked on Windows Me?
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May 18, 2009 8:21:50 PM

windowsmeloverI wonder if this game would have worked on Windows Me?

LMAO! Windows Me! Old memories :) 

Crytek could actually make it work, the company has the developing experience and seeing their track record in bring every modern technology to its knees, they could of made DNF stay for at least 2 years among the top 10 games. I see it, people buying better hardware to get the game running at playable FPS.
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May 19, 2009 1:28:44 AM

windowsmeloverI wonder if this game would have worked on Windows Me?

Windows Me doesn't even work itself.
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