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Netbooks Are 20 Percent of Laptop Market

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May 15, 2009 5:27:52 PM

Netbooks are useless for the enthusiast and some laptop users because they are either too small or the power of the processor is insufficient. I can't do programming with a tiny screen. My 13" Macbook is just about right for programming as it is.
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May 15, 2009 5:32:43 PM

Netbook is great for passing time in coffee shop. It is cheap and does more than most smart phone.
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May 15, 2009 5:46:05 PM

Cheap, light, portable. As long as i don't plan on doing more then surfing the web, im chatting, and writing a word doc or two i have no issue with it, i find them great as a school laptop i don't need them to play movies i have my desktop for that but i think some can do that just fine with an dvd drive attachment when needed :) 
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May 15, 2009 5:47:01 PM

Yes I do own one
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May 15, 2009 5:47:28 PM

“It is clear at the moment that mini-notes play a vital role in the total PC market"

Haha I remember some news where mac said that they will never build netbooks because it was not worth it. Another stupid argument from mac demonstrated here!

It's obvious that a netbook is for basic needs... It would be silly to blame my phone (which I bough to make calls) because it does not has the power to do programming LOL.

You should get what you need, if you buy something with this out of mind, don't blame the device when it does not fits your necessity (after all is your fault for not checking out)!
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May 15, 2009 6:10:25 PM

I guess I don't have one because I don't see the need for one. I assumed they sold well because of cost.

I got a good look at one in Best Buy and I couldn't believe how small the screen and keyboard were. I couldn't imaging doing any type of work on it. I guess it's exactly what it's called - a netbook, or a notebook made solely for browsing the 'net. Doing any sort of productive work on a screen that small seems like it'd be extremely difficult.

I have a 15" notebook and I couldn't imaging going any smaller.
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May 15, 2009 6:11:00 PM

*imagine - not imaging.

Is there an edit feature here?
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May 15, 2009 6:12:28 PM

bought the asus 701 over a year ago.
thing is great. just what i need.

it is used mostly for work. am nomadic tech support. i don't need alot of power just something more versatile then my axim. primary uses are remote desktop, e-mail and web.

the little 2 pounder (celeron 8G SSD) replaced a 10 pound p2 with a 6Gig drive. it's not a primary system and never was meant to be one. before this i was eyeing up some ultra portable that was going to cost 1k for a used one. Cheap, light, small; Sold.
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May 15, 2009 6:32:54 PM

@hallic: No, Apple understands what they want to do very well. Making a netbook would be stupid for Apple. Once you make a cheap product, it's very hard to (over)charge or raise your prices again.

Remember, a lot of other computer makers sell computers with razor thin profit margins. Apple doesn't sell any product with razor thin profit margins. The netbook, by definition, is a product with almost no profit margins.
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May 15, 2009 6:34:41 PM

I love netbooks simply because of their size and what they can do given their size. Problem is that I already have a 15.6" HP and a 14" and a 17" Dell, somewhere among all those different sizes I have every possible portable need covered. I'm not totally crazy I bought the HP when the 17" Dell video card went bad because the it only cost 100 bucks more for the whole machine and I needed something more portable. Then the 14" Dell was given to me and was only lacking a power brick and memory.

So what all that rambling comes down is I want to buy one cus they are neat little toys but without a really good use for one I will get shot if I buy another cool toy.
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May 15, 2009 6:41:14 PM

I did contribute, bought two!
When the Acer Aspire One failed me, I went and bought an Asus EEE with a 10.1 inch screen, now I'm working on the EEE and the Aspire One is sitting in the corner and being messed around Windows 7.
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May 15, 2009 7:11:34 PM

I have a triple screen desktop and a 17" Toshiba duocore2 laptop. Both computers are essential and too expensive to be destroyed or stolen. My Palm Treo 755 is my mini computer at this point but it's "too" mini. My laptop is only for business trips or presentations... something I don't want to go to the beach, vacation, or coffee shop with. A netbook is perfect for surfing, emailing, some music, video for the kids, and non-important stuff which is perfect for the beach, vacation and the coffee shop. Considering the price vs. a 80GB iPod... I'll have much more fun with the Netbook. I personally prefer the 7-8" screens... don't know how to call a 10"+ screen a netbook... that's a laptop form factor to me.
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May 15, 2009 7:20:14 PM

I bought 10 inch MSI Wind 5 months ago for the trip to Mexico. It is light (very good with all those recent weight restrictions) and has 120GB for photos (very handy as my wife took about 6000 pictures :)  ). Now I take it to all my trips.
Also I use it once a week when I need to go to a remote office where I have no dedicated PC to work on (software development). I connect 20 inch ext monitor, ext keyboard, ext mouse, internet cable and use Windows Terminal Server to connect to my work PC while mp3 is playing on Wind all day. CPU is not taxed too much this way and I do not feel any lag. While traveling home by train it keeps me entertained and I have no problems using it in small, cramped train seats :) 

This setup works great for me!
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May 15, 2009 8:39:11 PM

I refuse to buy a Netbook/Nettop as I believe it is over priced for the performance delivered. I'm a performance addict lol, go figure. :D 
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May 15, 2009 9:23:22 PM

Before I bought my netbook in 2008, I was using an 8-year-old Compaq Presario 1200T with a speedy 600MHz Celeron, 6GB hdd, and on-board Trident Cyberblade graphics (and two USB 1.1 ports). I had just upgraded its memory from 32MB to 160MB to support power-hungry apps like internet explorer and yahoo messenger. Now I'm running an awesome CoudBook with 1.2GHz Via C7, 512mb mem, and 30GB hdd.

I replaced by fiancee's 5-year old Toshiba Laptop with a Acer Aspire One last Christmas. Her main complaint was her Toshiba was too heavy to carry around. She had a desktop for her heavy work, and just wanted something smaller she could actually take with her to play flash games or browse the web on.

I think the trend toward netbooks shows a change in what people need to do on the go. Having a laptop that can rip DVDs or play Crysis might be nice, but only a very small amount of people need or even want to do that on the go. Most people are fine with netbooks as long as they can still surf, type up documents, and chat over IM, especially if they still have a desktop at home or work that can handle the bigger tasks where and when they are needed.
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May 15, 2009 9:53:41 PM

So basically Intel shredded their own profit margins, and set the laptop performance back about 10 years. Well done.
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May 15, 2009 11:53:57 PM

Whatever. I have 2 desktops, an Asus Notebook and I really want a netbook (from Asus of course)
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May 16, 2009 4:28:25 AM

Personally I would rather a notebook with 3+ gigs of RAM, 500 gig HDD, and 2GHz+ dual core.
Hell, a solo core will work for me if it's decent enough.

However, discreet graphics is a MUST!
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May 16, 2009 6:40:32 AM

I'm really tired of all the people that think that a
netbook can only be used to surf the web, that is so
stupid, i know that a netbook is not a super computer
but within their limits they are pretty good, and like
Hellwig says most of the people doesn't really need
a really powerful computer, most people only use their
pc's or laptops only for surfing the web, writing documents,
IM, so what's the problem
I have a acer aspire one with a 120gb and 1 gb of ram, and
in this tiny little netbook i can surf the web, watch dvds(i
ripped them on my other pc and then copy the dvd isos to the netbook)
watch matroska high definition videos using core avc
video codec, also i can do a little edit images (i installed
photoshop cs2 and runs fine), also i installed an older version
of autocad 2002 and also runs fine(i even think that a newer version
is capable of running without problems).

So maybe the netbooks aren't the most powerfull computers out there
but they can be useful and are not very expensive and being honest
most of he people don't use all the new features of new software
releases, so you can still install some older versions of the
software you need or want to use and you can take it on your travels
without worrying to much if this computer breaks or is stolen like
you would be with a "a notebook with 3+ gigs of RAM, 500 gig HDD, and 2GHz+ dual core and discreet graphics".
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May 16, 2009 9:42:58 AM

yes .i will replace my v6500 compaq presario which overheats on my lap a lot with something to just do documents and internet , for which netbooks will be fine enough with greater battery .for heavy tasks like gaming i will build a desktop early next year , when ddr3 will be cheap here in india .

in retrospect , i bought this laptop because it had nvidia integrated graphics (geforce 7150) , which i did not know earlier , suck . amd turion 64x2 is a battery sucker as well . and more powerful notebooks are costly , and wont be good price/performance for the latest games anyway , with upgradability as a big feature on desktops .

something thin and light would be perfect for watching youtube and visiting tom's after dinner in my bed . plus they arent heavy on the wallet .

when i do buy one, i will of course evaluate various netbooks and platforms like ion here on tom's .
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May 16, 2009 12:12:52 PM

i already bought 2 netbooks, the recent one is Lenovo S10. works great while away from my desktop.
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May 17, 2009 3:53:24 AM

deltatuxNetbooks are useless for the enthusiast and some laptop users because they are either too small or the power of the processor is insufficient. I can't do programming with a tiny screen. My 13" Macbook is just about right for programming as it is.

I program on my MSI Wind.
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May 17, 2009 6:52:11 AM

While there is no doubt that many buyers of mini-notes would have chosen larger notebook PCs if mini-notes were not available, it is also certain that many buyers might have chosen not to purchase a notebook PC at all,” said John F. Jacobs

I really have to disagree with this statement. I bought my laptop june 08 to replace the one I bought in april 04. I was looking at netbooks at the time but they were still way overpriced at the time. The u120 msi wind came out and it was nice (10 inch and somewhat typeable keyboards) but way overpriced 500 for 3 cell and then 550 for the 6 cell. In Febuary I found one for 300 so I picked it up. I bought an extra battery, another gig ram, and an ssd for it total to 480. Perfect for me on the go when I don't need more power. But I wouldn't have bought a laptop instead. My sister wanted one as well and then so did my mom. My sister (in college) has a perfectly good laptop but its 6lbs her netbook is 2.5lbs. Which one do you think she carts to class every day?

My mom didn't have nor would have bought a laptop but saw the use of a cheap netbook and decieded she wanted one. Thats 3 netbooks bought in the 1st quarter this year that would not have been laptop purchases.

I think most people are buying netbooks for small internet devices cause thats all they need. I think most people buy netbooks to carry around something lighter when they just want the basics. Some may realize thats all they do and just buy a netbook but I think most already have laptops (or desktops to do real work on).

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May 17, 2009 9:44:15 AM

deltatuxNetbooks are useless for the enthusiast and some laptop users because they are either too small or the power of the processor is insufficient. I can't do programming with a tiny screen. My 13" Macbook is just about right for programming as it is.


Gee i didnt know a NETtop couldnt run interNET explorer as it was intended?

This 20% figure may mean that perhaps ~19% of the market cannot afford a full sized laptop but need something to keep in communication or for documents etc
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May 18, 2009 6:43:15 PM

I don't understand why companies didn't see this trend sooner. There will always be a market for uber performance in every field, and there are those who just want somethign to get the job done. Some people want a throw-away car like a Kia Spectra, so they can get from point A to point B. Some people will want BMW's. Until they started to produce what are now called 'netbooks' there was no real throwaway IT device that was actually functional. A smartphone and a normal cell phone and an PMP equates roughly (in this analogy) to a motorcycle, a scooter, and a pedal-powered-bike, respectively. They all have their place, at various amounts of functionality and price. You can't take your desktop on a roller coaster, and you can't do your video editing on a cell phone.
I just hope there is more innovation in this market segment for the foreseeable future.
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May 18, 2009 9:45:07 PM

Horrible journalism language here:

"45 percent of netbook shipments went to Europe, Middle-East and Africa, while the North America only swallowed up 26 percent."

That is a prime example of bending the statistics to your own interpretation. Why is he lumping Europe (a continent) the Middle-East, and Africa (another separate continent into one category of 45% just so he can say North America only purchased 26%?? Is it just to make the article sound more interesting? (I realize it's not Marcus here at Tom's to blame, I found that wording originated in the COMPLETELY MISLEADING article he found the information on. THIS is what it should say:

North America accounted for 26% of all netbook sales while Africa, Europe, and the Middle East COMBINED only accounted for 45%.

North America population: 530,000,000
Africa population = 900,000,000
Europe = 731,000,000
Total = 1631 million (assuming that includes most overlapping middle east countries in the total)

530 million goes into that total about THREE TIMES so it's not even fair just to divide it up by two, but if you do, then Europe (assuming equal distribution regardless of total population) would account for 22.5% and Africa would account for 22.5%, still less than North America at 26%.

So, the correct journalistic interpretation would state, "Even though North America contains a third (or less) the population of Europe, Middle East, and Africa, they are still purchasing over a QUARTER of all netbooks sold worldwide. Per capita, North Americans purchase MANY MORE netbooks than Europe, Middle East, and Africa."

That would be far more correct and less misleading. Don't be fooled by the CRAPPY WORDING of the original article. North Americans don't ONLY buy 26%, they buy 26% compared to a population greater than triple its size who ONLY purchases 45%. They need to break it down by continent if they want to really demonstrate the true distribution.
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May 19, 2009 8:38:05 AM

I have an Asus 1000HE with the 6-Cell battery. I specifically bought it to be able to play movies when flying from Europe to the US. Thus far I've had no problems playing any video files and I get about 6 hours worth of movie playing time. What normal laptop exists today that can do the same thing for $350? I definitely would not have purchased anything if netbooks weren't available.
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