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Laptops without number pad

Hello everyone,
I am in the market for a new ivy bridge laptop (I am willing to wait a few months for the full lineups to arrive). I was hoping to get a good 15 inch screen with an i7, but I loath keyboards with squished keys and ridiculously off-center trackpads.
Does anyone know of any options?

Thanks!
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  1. seanmcc said:
    ridiculously off-center trackpads.
    What do you mean?
  2. I mean how many of the mid-large size laptops nowadays have their trackpads way off to the left directly under the spacebar (which is pushed left because of the number pad).
    I have no use for a number pad, and I feel that it makes the use of the keyboard that much harder.
  3. The trackpad should always be centered on the H key on the keyboard.
    In any other position - it would be 'off center' no matter what else was going on with the keyboard.
    All kinds of bad things happen when you're typing with a trackpad under your palm/wrist.
  4. I agree, I hate numpads. I am a software developer and I've been gaming since doom, yet I've never used a numpad. It's insane how every powerful gaming laptop has a horrible numpad squished in. I can't imagine typing all day on an off-centered keyboard. It's stupid and useless. I see no reason in to sacrifice ergonomics just so I can have a duplicate set of number keys that I'll never use.
  5. You might be taking a minority position.
    Not everyone will feel the same way.
  6. WR2 said:
    You might be taking a minority position.
    Not everyone will feel the same way.


    Really? Is that why Apple and Lenovo don't put numpads on their laptops? I'm typing this on a W520 'workstation' thinkpad right now, no numpad! Too bad Lenovo crippled their whole lineup of thinkpads with no dedicated graphics and *** screens.
  7. WR2 said:
    You might be taking a minority position.
    Not everyone will feel the same way.


    Ok, granted I bet some people are fine sacrificing a centered keyboard and trackpad for the use of a numeric keypad. But I have absolutely no use for one and I really enjoy the setup on my old Toshiba a205 in which everything is perfectly centered.
    Unfortunately while a macbook is rather ideal, it is a bit out of my price range. I do know of a few 15" thinkpads that lack a numpad (W and T), but I was hoping for a few more options.
  8. WR2 said:
    You might be taking a minority position.
    Not everyone will feel the same way.


    He may be taking a minority position.. But telling him that doesn't answer his question.

    His question was about someone helping him find one without an off centred touchpad, not "what do the majority like?"
  9. So nothing? I would really appreciate a few recommendations if you guys have any ideas.
  10. seanmcc said:
    Hello everyone,
    I am in the market for a new ivy bridge laptop (I am willing to wait a few months for the full lineups to arrive). I was hoping to get a good 15 inch screen with an i7, but I loath keyboards with squished keys and ridiculously off-center trackpads.
    Does anyone know of any options?

    Thanks!

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  11. I found this year-old thread on a search for: notebook windows keyboard without number pad.

    Like the OP I have no need for a keypad, and am also looking for a replacement for a Toshiba, in my case a L305. After about 4 years, the mouse buttons and the track pad are giving indications that they might not be long for this world.

    I've been very happy with this Tosh and am concerned about what I'll do when it becomes unusable... it's not there yet... and could last much longer for all I know... but I am SO picky about keyboards that I'm trying to plan ahead. The other non-negotiable requirement I have is that the Delete key be located at the uppermost and rightmost position, so I never have to hunt for it. The Tosh wins on both counts.

    I will check out the Lenovo linked above and see what it leads to, over a year later.

    Just dropping in to voice my support for numpadless keyboards, in case anyone else finds this thread in the future.

    To the OP: what did you end up with?
  12. *raises hand* My disgust for the num-pad on laptops also brought me here. Please heed manufacturers!
  13. Hey guys,

    Following models may be what you need:

    - dell xps 15 9550 ($999+)
    - dell inspiron 15 7000 2-in-1 (inspiron 7548) ($550+)

    Hope this helps.
  14. Thanks! Finally, someone posting something helpful instead of arguing with someone over their preferences - yay!
    I, too, really hate the off-center keyboards with number pads on laptops - I actually balance my laptop on my lap quite often, and having the keyboard off to the side to make room for a number pad that I don't use makes the whole thing off balance. I refuse to buy a laptop with a number pad for that reason.
    Thank you for the suggestions!

    Volodimir said:
    Hey guys,

    Following models may be what you need:

    - dell xps 15 9550 ($999+)
    - dell inspiron 15 7000 2-in-1 (inspiron 7548) ($550+)

    Hope this helps.
  15. This is an old list from 2014 but I hope it helps others looking for a 15 inch laptop with NO numeric keypad on the right side.
    LAPTOPS WITH NO NUMERIC KEYPAD

    ACER - Model: R7-571-6858 - 15.6-Inch Laptop
    HP - HP 2000-2d65NR 15.6-Inch Laptop
    HP - HP 2000-2d09WM 15.6-Inch Laptop
    HP 2000-2D39WM 15.6" - at walmart
    LENOVO - Model: T530 - 2392APU - 15.6-Inch Laptop
    LENOVO - Model: W530 - 24384KU - 15.6-Inch Laptop WITH LED - WINDOWS 7
    ASUS Transformer Book Duet TD300 - Windows 8


  16. Add it to the list...
    ASUS VivoBook S400CA
    https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/ASUS_VivoBook_S400CA/

    Centered trackpad also...I think it's quite near mac book style.
    14.0" 16:9 HD (1366x768) LED Backlight Glare pane

    Great computer....
  17. Ok, more 15 inch laptops without numpad are around now. Take a look at Samsung Notebook 9 Series (2016).
  18. Volodimir said:
    Ok, more 15 inch laptops without numpad are around now. Take a look at Samsung Notebook 9 Series (2016).


    Anyone know of any 17" laptops w/o numpads? I hate them too! No one I know uses them, I can understand that they might be helpful for certain jobs/tasks but those users are the minority. The average user has no need for one and people whose job involves a lot of typing are completely neglected by laptop manufacturers, all I need is a good keyboard, 17" screen and no numpad for an affordable price-too much to ask? I dont think we are a minority as such, I just think average users who dont type a lot dont really think about it and have got used to positioning their laptops or themselves at a certain angle to compensate-ask if they have ever once used the numpad most of them will say no! Its utterly ridiculous that because of a few accountants or cad users we all not only have to suffer the resulting negative impact on speed/quality/comfort of typing that the numpad causes we also risk damaging our health! After a few hours of typing on a keyboard my wrist, arm and shoulder ache... Sorry, rant over ;) If anyone spots a 17" out there....
  19. I just spent a considerable amount of time looking for a laptop with all the features I wanted. I placed my order, then later realized the one I ordered doesn't have a numpad. I am very disappointed. Don't know how I missed that and if I had noticed I would have looked harder for one with a numpad. I use the numpad all the time, doing work in Excel and other things that require entry of numbers. And I've never had a issue with the rest of the keyboard and touchpad being off center. Also, when you lose the numpad you don't have dedicated pageup, pagedown, home, and end keys, which I also use all the time.

    I've mentioned this to quite a few people and they all were surprised that someone would make a laptop without the numpad and thought it was a stupid thing to do. So I think people who don't want a numpad are still in the minority.

    But to help those that do, the one I ordered is a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 series.
  20. Hey Lenovo: numpads are stupid for everyone but accountants, who don't use laptops anyway. Someone very stupid forced this "feature" onto every 15" and 17" Lenovo model -- if you check that person's references, he didn't leave Apple, he was fired. Oh wait, he's an Apple plant! Anyways, drop the numpads. Many people actually use keyboards for typing.
  21. I like numpad on my laptop and I'm not a accountants
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