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5700U KILLS 9600XT in DX9 STALKER Game

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January 4, 2004 9:49:44 PM

DX9 baby:)  But ATi's high end owns all. Funny because this was a game nVidia had major influence in. <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/editorial/display/stal..." target="_new">http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/editorial/display/stal...;/A>

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January 4, 2004 10:18:08 PM

It depends. The 5700U has an incredible vertex engine that <b>under proper conditions</b> can really fly. I had one for two days, and I was really impressed with it.

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January 5, 2004 12:51:50 AM

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<b>Athlon XP 2100+ @2.02Ghz
MSI K7N2 Delta-L nForce2 Ultra 400
768mb of Generic DDR266 @310 6-3-3-2
Built by ATi R9800 @420/630</b>

You upgraded your entire system? glad for you! :smile:
January 5, 2004 1:35:24 AM

Thanks!....I still have the old junk memory though. I'm workin' at it:) 

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January 5, 2004 3:46:56 AM

screw the campagain!! 5700Ultra owns!!!



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January 5, 2004 4:02:39 AM

Hmm...is that the leaked version of stalker? The graphic isnt on bar with HL2 anyway :tongue: .

PS. Look at the hit FX took with AA/AF :wink: .
January 5, 2004 4:20:39 AM

What?! Does this mean I should get a 5700U now? EEEK! I'm confused.
January 5, 2004 4:21:02 AM

It puts up good numbers in some runs, but in all the FSAA + aniso benches it gets hammered. The ati cards take their standard small hit, but the 5700U gets pounded by that stuff.

I like to run AA and aniso myself so that's always a big thing for me.

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January 5, 2004 5:38:36 AM

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but in all the FSAA + aniso benches it gets hammered.

Your right, I know :wink: ....I was merely trying to raz the many 9600P owners in here(it didnt work)

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January 5, 2004 6:24:14 AM

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I was merely trying to raz the many 9600P owners in here(it didnt work)

You talking to me? Are you talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talkin' to?
You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who do you think you're talking to?
Oh yeah... Huh? Ok!?!
:wink:

Hey I know the FX5700U has it's strengths.

I'd be interested in seeing if driver tweaks would help. Like you say it is an nV TWIMTBP project that they've been talking about for over a year now, so I'm not surprised.

Do you know if it's a VS 2.0-centric games like the X2 Demo?

That would explain a heck of alot. 3 vertex engines versus 2 is almost the equivalent of the diff. between the two. Still the R9600 series does remain playable pretty much throughout the tests even with AA/AF for the most part (except 16x12 has a 'too low' dip). Nice to see that at least. 1280x1024 playble (heck even 16x12 without AA/AF), that's good news for me for a while.

Still would need more than 1 new game to change my outlook on the line in general, but the FX5700U is definitely a worthy competitor of the R9600 line. Look how dismally the FX5600U does. The FX5700U is, as I said when there was a request for input about the buyer's guide, the only FX that I felt was worth it's money. Since then the FX5900XT/SE/LS has been added to that list, too bad they didn't show the performance of one of those.

I also find it funny the Volari does SOOooo poorly. I think that's your <b>real</b> motivation for posting this. Evil! :lol: 


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January 5, 2004 10:29:49 AM

What the guy above said. Best card ever made = 9700pro.

16 months on and its still up there, and if overclocked a bit, its on par with the best.

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January 5, 2004 1:05:41 PM

The game maybe better tailored for the 5700 than the 9600. Try enabling some filtering then lets see the scores again.

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January 5, 2004 5:26:04 PM

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Do you know if it's a VS 2.0-centric games like the X2 Demo?

As it turns out, the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. leak has no shaders, no bump mapping, and no real mentionable effects....I dont even know why they bothered benchmarking with it. I guess they new it would attract hits to their site. They are also the ones who used the leaked HL2 code to benchmark with.


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January 5, 2004 6:59:48 PM

Wow!

"KILLS" you misused this word in your subject.

We should have read :
Without AA 5700U is better than 9600XT
With AA 9600XT is better than 5700U

We really need to see BIG difference to call a product KILLER!

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January 5, 2004 9:12:15 PM

The title elicited the appropriate response.

You don't title something: 'The Bland Benchmark no one cares about', you title it: 'The Benchmarks that will change your view of the world, and your place in it'. Of course you want the post to at least be about Benchmarking. The above would apply mainly to the R9600 and FX5700 owners which were the initial target of the bard post, and therefore the title would be accurate.

And, if you do look at the graphs there is validity in the title even if it only tells half the story.


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