DX9 Performance

I have a P4-2800 FSB800, with 512 DRR 400Mhz and a 9800 Pro 128Mb. In lots of reviews of this radeon I see 3d Mark scores of 16000 for the 2001 and 5800 for the 2003. And this with a lower pc. But I was never able to get that scores. In 2001 I get 13500 and in 2003 I get almos 5300. Whats wrong? I have the lates 3.10 drivers from Ati.
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  1. WOW you absolutly have a problem with your system (try formating)

    i get 16000 very easily (already got 17800) and i pass the 6000 barrier in 2k3 (my highest is 6250) AND your system should be better than mine....

    My own beast: Athlon 2700xp+ (oc: 3200xp+ with 200fsb) , Radeon 9800pro (oc: 410/370) , 512mb ddr400. SO MUCH faster than my last computer (pIII 550......)
  2. I have a 300W Power supply. Could it be the reason of the low performance?
  3. Nope! Your system would CRASH!

    Try unloading Kazaa and get rid of the half-dozen trojan you have on your system. :smile:

    Seriously, if you have a fresh install of WinXP with the latest drivers and patchs you should get numbers near reviews. Have you check your Video RAM speed and GPU speed?

    this can make a difference. If you have an underclocked 9800 PRO you might have lower results.

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  4. 340/680 stock numbers checked with Ati ClockRate. Format here I go... Thanks!
  5. 340/680

    340?

    Regular clock rate for a 9800pro are 380 ...

    My own beast: Athlon 2700xp+ (oc: 3200xp+ with 200fsb) , Radeon 9800pro (oc: 410/370) , 512mb ddr400. SO MUCH faster than my last computer (pIII 550......)
  6. Your card is clocked to ATI spec.

    Official ATI Radeon 9800 series clock speed :
    <A HREF="http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/compare.html" target="_new">http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/compare.html</A>

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  7. sorry my mistake! 380 it is! Can I push it tou 400 with no secial cooling?
  8. you can push it to 420 without special cooling


    My own beast: Athlon 2700xp+ (oc: 3200xp+ with 200fsb) , Radeon 9800pro (oc: 410/370) , 512mb ddr400. SO MUCH faster than my last computer (pIII 550......)
  9. Installed the latest mobo drivers for windows yet?

    Barton 2500+ @ 2200mhz (10x220 vcore @ 1.8)
    Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
    1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
    Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
    ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/720)
  10. mobo drivers? I'm a newbie... what's mobo drivers?
  11. http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_3.13

    If you are using winxp or 2000 that this. Once downloaded, just open the app and it will install the drivers.

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_win9x_2.41

    Go here to dl it if you are using win 9x or ME OS.

    Barton 2500+ @ 2200mhz (10x220 vcore @ 1.8)
    Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
    1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
    Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
    ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/720)
  12. Mobo drivers are the MOther BOard drivers.
  13. WOW, don't reformat immediately. I hate when that is peoples first reaction. There is so many things to try before doing that! And many of the following will give you the same results even after reformatting.

    Have you checked your display settings? Set them to ATI defaults. (blend of performance and quality).

    Also, scores change a little with driver versions.

    What motherboard are you using. Maybe it isn't tweaked at all in the bios. For instance, I have an ABIT IS7, P4-2.6, Radeon 9500 pro and i get 13,500 3dmarks in 2001se, but only 3766 in 03 without overclocking. But I have the gaming acceleration (like PAT) enabled and am able to run the F1 settings as well as aggressive memory timings. All those bios tweaks add well over 1000 3dmarks in in 3dmark2001se. Your motherboard may just not have too many tweaks available, and how far you can go will greatly depend on your RAM. But I'd check that. Be careful though IF you don't know what the settings do as you can screw things up pretty bad.

    Also, you have 512MB RAM, is it 2 sticks of 256MB in dual channel mode. Or is it 1 stick 512MB or 2 sticks in single channel mode. All these things will account for lowering the score. Add them up and I can imagine your scores could be that almost that low. Especially if the display drivers are set to a higher quality than the ATI blend. Many people are posting scores with the drivers set to max performace, which adds quite a few 3dmarks too.

    So please guys suggest other things before telling someone to whipe his HDD clean. Yes often it is neccesary, but it isn't a starting place. He complains about low 3dmarks, not total instability!!!


    ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 512MB Corsair TwinX PC3200LL, Radeon 9500 Pro, Santa Cruz, Antec 1000AMG, TruePower 430watt
  14. My MB is an ASUS P4P800 but I didn't do anything in the BIOS... 1x512DDR Can you tell my what should I do in BIOS settings to inprove performance? Thanks
  15. maybe it's just that I'm a newbie, but when I go to Cnet.com and download advanced unstaller pro it's got some neat features that I don't know how to do myself. it defrags the registry and cleans up my system, ie, finds shortcuts that point to nothing, etc. I'm amazed at how much quicker my system is after I mess with that a little.
    best part is it's free to try.

    maybe it's just me
  16. I haven't used that board but will sure try to help. I need to ask a few questions first. Did you build this computer yourself or buy it prebuilt? Do you know exactly what ram you are running? The Brand memory. With a P4 2.8C, you will lose performance based on the fact you are only running 1 stick of memory as opposed to 2 sticks in dual channel.

    Is the system stable? If so, please do not reformat the Hard drive and reload windows until you are running out of options. If it is a spare system and all you care about is having fun seeing how many 3dmarks you can get, that is one thing. But otherwise unless it is unstable do not wipe out the HDD for a while. I'll look up your mobo and get a look at the bios settings available. Before I get back to you others may already have helped. I have to see what settings are the defaults.

    In the meantime, did you set your ATI driver settings to defaults or slide it to max performace. Re-run a test on a clean boot with it set to max performance. And familiarize yourself with the bios settings in the manual while the tests run.

    Asus is a great company and should have given you a manual explaining the bios and what each setting does. For now read that.

    You could go to the motherboard forum and just post a question listing your motherboard model in the description and bios help, or bios tweaking, etc. That is a common mobo and it's a good one too.


    ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 512MB Corsair TwinX PC3200LL, Radeon 9500 Pro, Santa Cruz, Antec 1000AMG, TruePower 430watt
  17. Thanks a lot! Its good to have good help! I'll do that!
  18. NForce Drivers? He has a P4 on an 865pe mobo? If he starts loading NForce drivers and Forceware drivers he'll be in bigger trouble than low 3dmarks. :wink:


    ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 512MB Corsair TwinX PC3200LL, Radeon 9500 Pro, Santa Cruz, Antec 1000AMG, TruePower 430watt
  19. See section 4.4 in your manual for bios settings.

    You may want to check that your cpu is shown as very close to 2800mhz. Also that the memory is set to 400mhz.

    Is Hyperthreading turned on. With your cpu it should be.

    The performance acceleration defaults to auto and will give a good boost when turned on. Might not work depending on your RAM. Before making bios changes, make sure you look up how to reset your bios IF a setting you change goes bad.


    ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 512MB Corsair TwinX PC3200LL, Radeon 9500 Pro, Santa Cruz, Antec 1000AMG, TruePower 430watt
  20. You can get a fairly large improvement in overall system performance by running memory in dual channel mode, but that would require 2 matching modules in slot 1 and 3.

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