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May 23, 2009 2:36:50 PM

The Neo Geo is cult classic how can you include that and not a system like the 32X or the Atari 5200!

Saying that I agree with pretty everything else on the list, the Virtual Boy....................what pills were they taking.
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May 23, 2009 2:44:35 PM

I disagree with the game gear's placement on the list. It lasted for years and was far better than the game boy. Yes it was big and yes you had to buy rechargeable batteries but it had some great games and great graphics for the day. I just wish they'd released the mega gear properly. :( 
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May 23, 2009 2:51:30 PM

Hmm, its not as big of a failure, but the Sega Master System seemed to not sell well in the states, and I only had 1 friend that had one, and honestly I had never heard of it till I saw it at his house, The TG16 and Neo Geo, however I knew of and lusted after.....alas I grew up poor, my first and only console was the Playstation.....
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May 23, 2009 4:04:45 PM

This list seems to be a personal list since epic fail's like the 32x and the 3DO are missing.
Also the atari jaguar was a great system and the most advanced in its time but it had flaws we also found in the saturn and some other consoles.
The Jaguar ran a multi chip setup so if you wanted to get the best out of it you had to program for each chip in stead of porting games to one of them.

To call the NeoGeo an epic fail is a lot like saying "i am a moron".
It seems like you wanted to make a list of epic fails but chose to only use systems every reader on tom's knows or worse you never even heard of machines other then these.
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May 23, 2009 4:16:08 PM

only stupid because you tried to over clock it
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May 23, 2009 4:25:29 PM

"By Bestofmedia Team" LOL! I guess noone wanted to take credit for putting NeoGeo in the list. You guys are gonna get alot of **** for that :) 
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May 23, 2009 4:29:15 PM

How did you guys miss the Sega Dreamcast?

It came out in 1998 and was discontinued in 2001 and I doubt anyone here bought one :p 
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May 23, 2009 4:58:29 PM

avericiaHow did you guys miss the Sega Dreamcast?It came out in 1998 and was discontinued in 2001 and I doubt anyone here bought one

Much like the PS3 the Dreamcast outperformed the competition, but the lack of games and price tag left much to be desired.
...Also, I remember there being talk that the first group of consoles sold could play games from other systems; not sure how much truth there is to this.
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May 23, 2009 5:17:30 PM

avericiaHow did you guys miss the Sega Dreamcast?It came out in 1998 and was discontinued in 2001 and I doubt anyone here bought one


If I'm not mistaken the Dreamcast came out in 1999, remember the release date was 9-9-99. It was a head of the game by the first console to include internet access and options like a motion activated fishing rod (precursor to wii's motion sensors today) mouse and keyboard. but sadly the choice of using Giga-Disc over DVD media was it's downfall. Yes, I owned a Dreamcast. After it's retirement, I turned it into a Linux box.

I also owned an N-Gage QD; a great phone, horrible game platform.

I am going to cry foul here. The Sega CD was not an independent platform. how can it compete in the console wars? it required you to have a Genesis first. By this logic the 32x and Super Gameboy should be lumped into the same category.

I'm surprised to not see Sega VR on the list. it was the whole reason why Nintendo rushed the Virtual Boy on to the market only in a monochromatic screens. After the epic Virtual Boy failure, Sega decides not to launch the VR.

I have to agree with Spanky Deluxe on that point, the Game Gear should not be on the list. if you wanted another portable device pick the Atari Lynx. battery life so horrible that I always had to leave it plugged in while playing.
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May 23, 2009 5:17:36 PM

hemelskonijnThis list seems to be a personal list since epic fail's like the 32x and the 3DO are missing.Also the atari jaguar was a great system and the most advanced in its time but it had flaws we also found in the saturn and some other consoles.The Jaguar ran a multi chip setup so if you wanted to get the best out of it you had to program for each chip in stead of porting games to one of them.To call the NeoGeo an epic fail is a lot like saying "i am a moron".It seems like you wanted to make a list of epic fails but chose to only use systems every reader on tom's knows or worse you never even heard of machines other then these.

The issue with the Neo Geo wasn't that is was bad system because it was really cool, the problems was the price.
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May 23, 2009 5:19:44 PM

My only complaint with this list is the horrendous editing. How did the amount of errors this article contained get past the person responsible? To those of you complaining about why or why not this or that console did or did not make the list I offer this: it was 7 consoles, not 9 or 10; and they included these consoles because, regardless of what you think of them, they were failures. They performed under market appreciation and hence are gone except for those you may find on ebay or craigslist.
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May 23, 2009 5:26:08 PM

Panasonic 3d0 should take #1 spot. Overpriced, no desirable games, not even worth the space on a HDD for emulation. Sega CD should be taken off the list, they actually made some decent games for it. The Sega 32X should have taken it's rightful place on the list though. Fun article. Virtual Gameboy "HAHA" remember playing demo at Sears and thinking WTjavascript:%20void(0);F.
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May 23, 2009 5:29:04 PM

Hmm. I knew a kid who had a Game Gear back in it's day. I thought that thing was a pretty awesome little machine personally. Granted not every kid owned one, but I wouldn't have thought back on it as an epic failure.
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May 23, 2009 5:49:49 PM

I have to disagree with Neo Geo & Turbo Grafix 16's placement on the list. First, the TG16 was a very capable system even without the CD drive attachment. It's not like it had any competetion for the first part of it's life, going up against the likes of NES and SMS. Because it didnt take off in the United States doesnt really make it a failure, as it did very well overseas. And as far as the Neo Geo, yes it was expensive. Yes, the games were expensive. But it was also several times more powerful than the next closest console of the time. It was an Arcade in your living room. $600 back then was high, but people also spend thousands on gaming rigs today for the same reason. If you want the Aston Martin luxury, you pay the Aston Martin price. I dont understand why the 3DO was left off the list, it was a horrible failure, more so than most of the systems on the list.
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May 23, 2009 6:38:12 PM

32x isn't on it, Gamegear is on it. I think this list is an Epic Failure.
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May 23, 2009 6:51:35 PM

SlyNine32x isn't on it, Gamegear is on it. I think this list is an Epic Failure.

Let's not forget the lack of Phillips CD-i.
Mah boi, this failure is what all true consoles strive to avoid.
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May 23, 2009 6:57:48 PM

This list has some serious flaws.

Beginning by being written in the first person, but the writer being "The Bestofmedia Team" What is that anyway ? Shouldn't it be "Tom's Hardware Team" ? And who said what ? And didn anyone proofread it ? Please, even weekend entertainment shouldn't be plagued with 'glitches'.

Second, you are looking at the Game Gear from the wrong perspective. It was the second most successful hadheld console of the time. And the most successful color one. That is a fact. The Game Boy had a head start, better battery life, more games nad a lower price. But the Game Gear had more powerful hardware and more action packed games. And a plethora of accessories the Game Boy could only dream about. You could watch tv on it, and even buy an adapter to play Master System Games directly. In the early nineties you didn't have technology to go much further.

I had both the Game Boy and the Game Gear, so I can make a fair comparisson. They wore both good, but for action packed games the Game Gear was the best. No question. Try the Atari Lynx. THAT was an epic failure.

Oh, and the Neo Geo ? What about the Amiga CD 32 ? Try that instead. That was a proper failure.
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May 23, 2009 7:38:34 PM

The game gear was a great handheld in my opinion. If only they made the battery life more acceptable I'm sure they would have taken the handheld throne. Its hardware was basically a portable Sega Master System which was quite amazing for a handheld at the time.

Also the Atari Jaguar was a piece of crap but it did have a few good games. Syndicate on it was a blast.

Also you failed to mention the unbearable load times of the Sega CD.
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May 23, 2009 7:41:27 PM

Obviously this list is subjective, but to say the Jaguar was the worst system because of bad games and poor construction just isn't true. There were good games like T2K, Iron Soldier I & II, Rayman, Power Drive Rally, Super Burnout, Doom, Wolfenstein, AvP, etc. Quite a few good ones right there. I've never seen any problems with poor construction and I've got two Jaguars. I will say the controller was OK, but bulky...certainly better than 7800 controllers, though.
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May 23, 2009 7:48:57 PM

Neo-Geo should definitly not be on this list. The system came out in 1990...and they were still making games for it up untill 2004 with the last release of Samurai Showdown V. Its the longest lasting and supported console system in history.

Price was definilty its downfall....but I sure remember saving up for this system doing odd jobs as a kid. I could only ever afford 3 used games total.....but you couldn't find better quality games on the market when this thing was released. The graphic quality and sound were unmatched....and its the very first system to use a memory card.

If Neo-Geo's prices were more in line with Super Nintendo and Genesis at the time.....Neo-Geo would have been king of the hill.
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May 23, 2009 8:01:44 PM

What about Playstation 3? Is it really a gaming system or just a another blue-ray player? Most of the people I know who bought one only use the blue-ray capability. I'd like to see a survey of PS3 users who actually play games on it. I believe PS3 should be added to the list.
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May 23, 2009 8:22:55 PM

Is anyone reading the
"• This story, marked with a • is weekend entertainment content only and should not to be considered factual"
Part at the end of these stories marked with an "•"

I definitely think the neogeo could have been great if it were not for the insane cost of the games. Seriously, who wants to buy a console cartridge that costs as much as the arcade's cartridges in the multi-game stand up cabinets. While it will always have classics such as Samurai showdown series, and some of the better 2D drawn graphics for its time, its $200 a game concept was just silly, even for today. I wish they would of tried a Bleem-like concept after the NeoGeo's death. Not like they don't have a lot of people still playing some of those classics illegally anyways, but I'd pay $5 a piece for some of those classics to play on my PC when I'm bored. If anything, the NeoGeo CD machine was waaay more of a failure, at least the cartridges were pretty much the same boards in the arcades, so at least they could be used by arcade owners for tournament fun.
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May 23, 2009 8:38:35 PM

going to dipsute NEo Geo again. yes it was extremely costly. But it was by no way a failure of a system

if you want to call the most epic of epic fail for a console? than you put Atari Jaguar up there as it killed Atari's attempts to stay in the console market

but my Number 1 or 2 would be the Sega Saturn. This console killed Sega. Not the Dreamcast. But the Saturn. Sega's first CD attempt was overly complex for the time. 3 distinct processors. a distinct graphics processor all made for the programming of games on this console to be extremely difficult for the yield results. the outcomes of all the programmers efforts were barely anything far an above the genesis.

It was the Saturn that sent thousands of programmers and the dozen or so of exclusive Sega publishing houses running away to Sony and nintendo. Dreamcast was a great system, but itw as too late. The developers were long gone because of the Saturn and it was only a matter of time.

The Saturn killed Sega. that is epic fail. one console to crush the main business of an entire company'
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May 23, 2009 8:52:01 PM

A few people got it right...
The Turbo Grafix 16 should not be on the list. I owned one when it was first release and had many games for it. It did really well against the NES and the Sega Master until the Super NES and Sega Genesis arrived. It was advertised as the next generation console with 16bit conpared to the 8bit the other two rivals. Although it did not get as popular as the NES and the Sega Master, but no way was it an "Epic Failure".

The 3DO should be on this list. It was a powerful system with very good graphics, but it was extremely expensive at the time. All the major electronic chain that carried it always had it hidden away in some corner of their store where they had all their high end equipments. It wasn't advertised as a gaming console but more of a "multimedia" machine. Many of their games were interactive movie style games, which not too many people care for. I bought my 3DO at the end of it's life cycle when it was redesigned to a slicker low profile design, and it was heavily discounted. I had Road Rash, Need For Speed, Return Fire,Star fighter, and Street FighterII Turbo. Ultimately, it was the high price and marketing strategy that brough it down.
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May 23, 2009 8:54:30 PM

I forgot...

Another one that should make the list is the Atari Lynx
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May 23, 2009 9:00:20 PM

SlyNine32x isn't on it, Gamegear is on it. I think this list is an Epic Failure.


LOL!
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May 23, 2009 9:08:09 PM

avericiaHow did you guys miss the Sega Dreamcast?It came out in 1998 and was discontinued in 2001 and I doubt anyone here bought one

How sad that you don't even know how popular it had gotten. Sega headquarters in japan set an insane minimum number of units to sell or they were closing the system making shops worldwide, and it still almost sold enough to pass the mark in the U.S.. It didn't go over as well in japan, but still, it was far from a failure considering the number of units and games sold in that brief amount of time. It also had some great ideas and some great (and terrible) games that were quite good looking for its time. Plus 4 player ability right out of the box was another great idea, along with built in lan card. The amount of people STILL playing some dreamcast games (like SF3:3rd Strike) that never got reasonable ports to any other game system yet, should show how beloved it was for the time. Its GD rom's were also using what was probably one of the better copyright systems to be used so far. What I would give for a decent port of SF3:3rd/echo/sonic/SanFranRush2049/MvsC2 on my PC.... I had so much fun playing with my buddies in those games.
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May 23, 2009 9:20:51 PM

Where's the Philips CD-i?
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May 23, 2009 9:39:17 PM

Sega CD had some of the most classic RPGs ever made! Not to mention games like Blackhole Assault! classic fighting game
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May 23, 2009 10:01:01 PM

I may be the one person who enjoyed playing the 3DO. Yes it was highly overpriced when it was released. However I can't forget the number of hours playing games like Wing Commander 3, Return Fire, Return Fire Maps of Death, Alone in the Dark, Road Rash, and Dragon's Lair. I think the 3D0 had many good games for the system but the price of the system was very high. I believe 800 when it was released. I think I picked my first one up when it was 399.

The one system I didn't see mentioned is the Phillips Cd-I. Now I have been playing games since the Atari 2600 and Coleco. I also went through the pain of trying to get R.O.B the robot to work with the NES and games Gyromite and I believe the other one was called Stack-em or something similar.

I pulled out my old Atari 2600 several years and let my son see what type of games I grew up playing. I told him about the many games I played for the C64 as well. I really liked Racing Destruction and Bolder Dash Construction Kit. I also mentioned Zork and how it was all text based adventure. He was like no graphics...what fun is that.

It is amazing to see how much games have changed over the years. I have seen many changes since I started playing them. I would have to agree that the Virtual Boy may be one of the biggest we really should have not built this systems in the history of gaming. Just thinking of the painful red looking Mario (red everything) trying to play tennis just hurts my head. This system may as well be dumped in the same landfills with the countless ET games for the Atari.
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May 23, 2009 11:01:15 PM

afrobaconMuch like the PS3 the Dreamcast outperformed the competition, but the lack of games and price tag left much to be desired....Also, I remember there being talk that the first group of consoles sold could play games from other systems; not sure how much truth there is to this.


I think you mean the ability to play burned games. And yes it does as well as the Dreamcast has the ability to play emulators and ROMS from older systems (SNES, Gameboy, Game Gear ect....). The Dreamcast was awesome. But no DVD drive killed it when the PS2 hit even though it had the graphics capability and the best size ever.

And how is it that that one Panasonic Disc Drive (forget the exact name) that was the bastard child of Nintendo that had the God awful Zelda games (I know, how can there be a bad Zelda game, right)?

That was more of a failure than the Virtual Boy TBH.....
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May 23, 2009 11:31:17 PM

Fire your proofreaders.
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May 23, 2009 11:42:11 PM

I agree with most of the failures, how could you put game gear on there though? That thing was great back in the day. Like you said it sold 10mil units.. How is that in any,shape, or form failure? I think that's strictly a personal one on your part. Because ya needed rechargeable batteries wippy doo dah. They had battery packs, and plugs to they were just a little bigger then they are now. My game gear stood up against everything, will as much as my gameboy did.

The other things I completely agree with, although wing commander was awsome for the sega cd, and UFC for dreamcast. And dreamcast would've owned things up if only they could've had some titles backing their product.
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May 24, 2009 1:00:48 AM

Once the Xbox 360 is "dead" it will be added to the list. (I currently own two, so NO I'm not a hater.) Almost all my buddies have suffered RROD. It definitely has an epic failure rate.
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May 24, 2009 2:46:04 AM

Horrible writing style. Amateur reporting at best. How old are you?
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May 24, 2009 2:52:31 AM

I strongly disagree having the Sega Game Gear on that list! Everything else fits but that. I had one (and still do) within the first few months of it coming out and I played the hell out of it. The only problem that I ever had was the wires in the AC adapter cord breaking occasionally. To this day, it still works great.
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May 24, 2009 4:27:04 AM

I'd have to put the Phillips CD-i, Sega Saturn, 3DO, and the Atari lynx in the top spots. I actually owned a virtual boy. I bought it used for like $30. Hehe... I also owned almost all of the systems listed. Wish I could have had a NeoGeo but couldn't afford one at the time. I think marketing killed the Dreamcast. I had one and it was awesome in 1999. Crazy Taxi, Online Gaming, little pop out tomigachi like screens in the controllers. I loved it. Ironically I never did own a PS2 but I have a PS3 now. One of the old expensive ones too :S
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May 24, 2009 5:27:21 AM

Th TG16 had Military Madness, that alone made up for its inadequacies to the Genesis. Don't forget you could have 5 players, Dungeon Explorer is awesome with 5 players. The Jaguar had Iron Soldier and Aliens vs Predator, which made up for all the other crud on the system. I'm surprised the Sega 32X didn't make it on the list, for sure it is the Epic fail of all systems.

It is obvious you fail at hardcore gaming and should stop writing artilces about things you have no clue about.
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May 24, 2009 5:43:21 AM

How many of you had the Sega Nomad? How about the Wonderswan?
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May 24, 2009 9:05:17 AM

The real 5 should have been:

Saturn
3DO
Visual Boy
Sega 32X
Lynx
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May 24, 2009 9:05:56 AM

zaxonr34What about Playstation 3? Is it really a gaming system or just a another blue-ray player? Most of the people I know who bought one only use the blue-ray capability. I'd like to see a survey of PS3 users who actually play games on it. I believe PS3 should be added to the list.

PS3 is still selling modestly, thats even with the current price. However, considering its many hardware failure, I see Xbox360 heading in that list much faster. Just had too many problems with mine as well as other friends with theirs.
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May 24, 2009 9:29:07 AM

I really think the Jaguar should be placed first rather than the Neogeo. I think that it was simply jelousy that placed the Neogeo 1st. The thing is, even with the high price people still wanted the Neogeo, kinda like the PS3 now. The Jaguar on the other hand was over hyped, had crappy games and was too expensive when it came out. The Neogeo though had games you wanted to play. It's sole problem was that it was way too expensive. Too bad Sony forgot the lessons of the Neogeo.
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May 24, 2009 1:56:57 PM

Pointless article, personal opinion or not, weekend entertainment or not. The Game Gear was a far cry from epic failure. It was ambitious and it actually sold, if not as good as the GameBoy and just because the latter was simply defining the concept of value for money for an entire decade.

The Jaguar belongs on such a list but not for the pointless reasons given. It belongs there simply for numbers sold. "Worst gaming system ever"...what is the author smoking?

Misses were mentioned already. The Lynx, N-Gage, hell even the 3DO achieved exactly what its developer intended.


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May 24, 2009 3:31:36 PM

wow I cant believe the atarti lynx and the 3DO were left out of this equation. Or how about even more failed CD-i system which I only remeber in nightmares.

There were plenty of failed systems and really only the ones that should of had a fighting chance should be mentioned and there still are omissions.

Turbo Grafx 16 hand held which much like the game gear suffered from all the same faults but atleast it played the regular sized games ....... for an hour lol.

this article only teases the old memories out of ya
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May 24, 2009 3:51:42 PM

Where's ColecoVision ???? The side of the box stated hundreds of games available soon.............still waiting
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May 24, 2009 6:23:17 PM

I can't believe the Gizmondo isn't on this list. That thing was a spectacular failure. It's story included all of the components of a daytime soap opera. Car crashes and international criminal organizations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Telematics
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May 24, 2009 7:14:53 PM

umm wrong , with the release of teh Jasper main baord , the overheating is a thing of the past , not to mention teh ahrdware ing eneral is greatpwoer wise , also the fact that world wide 360 is in the nubmer 2 spot for sales any one that calls this afail is a moron, sure overheating issues are bad , but when you talk about epic fails , the heart of the issue is these question : Are people buying it ?? are teh game awsome on it for the time period ?? and the answers are YES and YES, when it comes to the 360



umm. how would a fanboy know? the jasper systems haven't been out long enough but i am sure they will get the E74 errors. people! be smart and spend the extra money and get a PS3 instead of buying the cheap xbox 360 and having it replaced every few months especially sense they give you a refurb system back. the neogeo had tons of good games like the crashbox but the price of the system and games is why it was considered a failiure and the bad hardware is why the 360 will always be known as a failure

the dreamcast should definetly be on the list cause like most failed systems it has a cult following. heck the 3do was probobly on the market longer than the dreamcast

i don't know why they have sega cd on the list because that was more of an add-on then a whole system just like the 32x. and lets not forget the sucessor to the TG16 which was the NEC TurboDuo
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May 24, 2009 7:24:38 PM

How dare you put the Turbograph on this list; sure, it tanked in the US, but put the Genesis in a distant third everywhere else. Thats hardly the definition of "failure"
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May 24, 2009 8:30:47 PM

I actually liked the sega cd. I had what I called the sega monster, which included the genesis, 32x, and sega cd all strapped together. It had 3 different power bricks and wires everywhere. Man was it a bitch to set up.

I had many hours of fun with this system, although I must admit I used the genesis the most. A couple of my fond cd favorites were eternal champions, Dark wizard which I thought was an excellent turn based strategy, and Lunar silver star. I finally threw out the monster this past year, when I discovered it had been left in an old trunk that was exposed to the elements, It was a sad farewell.
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