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Bad fps w/Radeon 9800 Pro

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February 28, 2004 3:01:59 AM

Everytime I play a game like Raven Shield I'll check my fps and it is down around 25. I can't figure out what is wrong, here are system specs:

Intel 3 ghz, 800fsb
radeon 9800 pro (128mb)
1 gb pc 3200
80gb hd
winxp home

No idea what's going on
February 28, 2004 3:08:32 AM

What resolution/settings are you using? Are you using AF/AA?

Are you using a fresh install of your OS? This is especially important if you're coming from an NV card.

What driver version are you using?

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February 28, 2004 3:52:29 AM

Also do you have the latest .inf files for you chipset ? Have a run at 3dmark 2001 SE and see what your getting and post it, then we can see if it's your rig or just that game. You should be getting over 16000 3d marks with that setup.

let us know if you switched from an Nvidia car dover to an ATI card.

It all helps

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
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February 28, 2004 5:26:51 PM

Ok I'm using the Catalyst 4.2 drivers (just got them yesterday) and no, I'm not switching from a nVidia Card but I did just do a fresh install. But I discovered something earlier as I was trying to fix the problem. I went into the Advanced Display settings (I have the ATi control panel installed so there are all those extra tabs) and browsed through the tabs. I came across a tab called SMARTGART and it had a slider what the AGP was set to. It was on off. Since the 9800 PRO says it can handle (and so can my MoBo) 8x I moved it over and then restarted. When I went back to the tab, it had moved to off again. Interesting...? I think so. I'll try to find the program you mentioned and I'll run it and post the results.
February 28, 2004 5:29:57 PM

The reason why SMARTGART is saying your AGP is off is becuase you probably dont have you motherboard agp drivers installed and so its running through PCI. Install it and report back

My system:
AMD Athlon Barton 3000xp+
ATI Radeon Hercules 9800pro 128mb
WD 120gb 7,200rpm 8mb cache.
512mb twinmos pc3200
ASUS a7v8x-x Mobo.
February 28, 2004 9:54:36 PM

Ina nutshell, you need the MoBo's chipset drivers ( the .inf file) you can D/L this from the MoBo venders site without any problems at all.

Then stand back and watch everything fly !

Gary

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
....................<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by agcheavin on 02/29/04 10:57 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
February 28, 2004 10:57:34 PM

Yeah it was the Chipset driver. It works on 8x AGP now. Thanks so much everyone, but I have one more question. Why is it that I still only get an 11877 on 3DMark2001 SE when you guys said I could get around 16000?
February 29, 2004 1:05:06 AM

Good questions somethings still messed up. In your bios do you have agp fastwrite enabled? 128 agp aperature size?
Are you sure your cpu is getting enough voltage? I don't remember stock voltages on it, but i think it's somewhere around 1.55ish.. it should be there in your bios.

Your psu might not be putting out enough juice, but you should check it in bios where it's at in pc health status

<A HREF="http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=745781941" target="_new">http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=745781941...;/A>
43k mark. 85 dollars went a long way.
March 1, 2004 11:34:34 PM

I check the BIOS and there wasn't anything about fast-write but in the smartgart tab there is a thing and is says it's enabled. I also tried uping the voltage on the CPU and it actually gave me a lower score than originally. I also couldn't find the thing about the PSU "pumping enough juice."
March 2, 2004 2:01:07 AM

I gather that you have everything to the left under the driver advanced properties ? also try re-installing the drivers, normally you install the GART (agp) drivers first and then the ATI drivers...because you did it the other way round maybe that may be lowering your scores.

Also the ATI site recommends SP1 for win XP, and of course DX 9b wouldn't hurt as it is a DX 9 card.

Give aquamark a run as well, my sore, same card but a 2700 XP pulls 37 to 39000 ( i can't remember which..I'm not home at the moment to check) but that would also give oyu an idea.

Sorry I cant be more specific but thats what I would be looking into.

Gary

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
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March 2, 2004 9:30:58 PM

First off, what is driver advanced properties? Second, how can I uninstall drivers? Third where can I get AquaMark from. And finally, does it make a difference that it shows my FSB as running at 200mhz instead of 800mhz?
March 2, 2004 10:27:47 PM

1st- right click on the desktop, go to display, advanced and there will be all of your advanced properties, click on the 3d tab and move all the sliders to the left and hit apply.

2nd - Use driver cleaner, easy to find on the web via a google search.

3 - Aquamark is available as a free download from there site, but it's a BIG download, so if you don't have broadband use something like gozilla so that you can do resumes in the case of a dropout.

4 - no it doesn't, it's all part and parcel of teh multipliers that are used..hopefully someone here can give you some more details on that.

Gary

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
....................<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by agcheavin on 03/03/04 11:30 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
March 4, 2004 12:35:08 AM

Well...I care about how well my games run...Anyways, I ran Aquamark3 and got a 33,125. Compared to what I've been told and read, that isn't very good. What is wrong with my computer? Also, I can't download driver cleaner because every time I do it says it's corrupt.
March 4, 2004 3:39:21 AM

Are you running DX-9b and SP1, have you thought about wiping your system and just starting all over again..

I must say I'm at a bit of a loss...

Gary

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
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March 4, 2004 7:08:53 AM

I am having the same type of problems with 9800 Pro and now a 9700 pro. I've tried several different cards. I'm using an Asus A7n266-E motherboard (Nvidia chipset). The only graphics cards that have performed well for me were the onboard video and a GeForce 3 ti500. Neither Radeon card has performed well... I have tried a lot of the same remedies listed in this thread, but nothing seems to work for me..
March 4, 2004 11:13:34 PM

You have no idea how many times I've done that
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