Graphics card buyers' guide updated

[Spitfire_x86]

Check it!

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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Good Job, lots more info, definitely cover alot of ground.

Only suggestions/comments it's GeXcube, not GeCube.

Also,Powercolor = Club3D for our Euro friends.

AND....

<font color=blue>WHERE'S MY MATROX!</font color=blue> Not gonna let that go, ever. Especially with SIS Xabre and Volari in there.


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[coolsquirtle]

FINALLY = =

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[coolsquirtle]

omg... recommand list is still POS.... use mine and Grape's Brand recommand guide = =" like seriously

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[Spitfire_x86]

Changed PowerColor/GeXcube things.

AND

Should I put Matrox in the same class of XGI Volari Duo, because it's dog slow and insanely expensive?

Seriously, Matrox is good only in it's own world. Hardly any people who come here for help needs to buy Matrox-class card. Every card here is gaming card. If we have to add Matrox, why not add Quadro/FireGL/Wildcat?

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[Spitfire_x86]

I know brand recommendation section sucks, but where's your/Grape's brand recommandation guide?

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[pauldh]

Thanks for the update. You'll have loads more work to do in a few months.

A couple suggestions IMO. Here in US, the R9700Pro is not hard to find for $190. It should be listed in the $100-$200 class as the speed champ, although not necessarily the best buy as it is only a $10-$20 jump to R9800 Pro. I guess this varies all over, but it has not been a $200+ card for a long time here.

Also, I think the Ti4600 should be looked at carefully, based on the fact that it has been available new for $99 at times. I understand that isn't the norm though. All I'm saying is in the near future, keep an eye on it as if it drops in the under $100 range, it would be worth mentioning. If I had to chose between $90 Ti4200 or $100 Ti4600 as the most i could spend, I'd take a Ti4600 for sure. Of course the R9600 Pro could fall there soon too, and R9800 pro has already been available for under $200.

I guess it would take a frequently updated chart with prices for different areas/countries to further improve what you have done. As I am sure, the best bang for the buck varies greatly overseas. Good job though, and thx again.



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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

I'm not picky, but here's the list CS's talking about. It was really just an answer to a specific question, and mainly for the R9800, but it does apply somewhat to the majority of the model lines.

<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=386795#386795" target="_new">http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=386795#386795</A>

As for Matrox it's still the best 3monitor gaming card, which you could mention, and then also say, but it's expensive, and under the GF4 in performance. But I just gotta complain or else it's like no one is defending MAtrox.



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[Spitfire_x86]

I liked your mini-FAQ. It will be great if you generalize it for all ATI/nVidia cards. Then I will add this section in the buyers' guide (also include your name in the credits, of course)

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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Credit is no problem it is one with the forum and the universe, Oooohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm's LAW!
Just thank the creator for creating the creator of the list. :lol:

I'll clean it up a bit, and mention some of the changes since I first wrote it (just a quicky one-off at the time really, but I guess that's how these things start). I just wish I still had all the bookmarks. Thankfully my favourite one for that type of thing from Nordic is actually built right into it.

I'll clean something up by the weekend (gonna try and run some benchies tonight during Friends/ER and PORN, eerrrr, I mean the NEWS ), by Saturday I should have it cleaned up for ya.

Too bad I can't do the formating in advance to include the links to the company's web pages, but that's a bit of extra work and people really need to learn to start using google, which would save us all alot of time .


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[HardWareBoss]

Job very well done. Excellant thanks for all the hard work that goes into puting it together for everyone. Very helpfull. Now IF people would read it first before asking the same ole same ole.

 

[bandikoot]

You need to move the 9800SE down to the next lowest price range. Online retailers at least seem to be selling it for a price much closer to its performance, starting around $132 and averaging about $150.

 

[pauldh]

Oh how true. I have sent links to it to a few people as it basically can educate a noob quite well. They should make strangers read it before being able to post. So much useful info right in front of them.


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[Stinkfinger]

RE:Now IF people would read it first before asking the same ole same ole.

You know, the guide is very well informative and im sure alot of work is put into it which is very much appreciated but, people may not be a graphics card guru such as yourself. Maybe some people need a little more information and some other personnal opinions from various users to influence thier final decision buying cards or any help they may need. I read the buyers guide but still asked questions. So i appologize if people asking questions bothers you or takes up your time. I bow to the Graphics card GOD.
Remember this: The only stupid question is the question not asked
Dont knock people for asking questions


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[Vapor]

Maybe the questions you asked weren't the same ole same ole....and if they were, the buyers' guide preemptively answers them. You should have no reason to be defensive.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[Stinkfinger]

Im not being defensive for only myself, its for all the people who ask questions that need help. I mean, asking a question and getting different replies from different people may shed some light on the particular problem. My point is that noone should have to stop asking questions just cause it annoys certain people even if the questions were asked at one point in time. ANd maybe some people dont have time to sit and read every single forum to see if thier question has been asked before, who knows. I know i can only read so much.
I'm not trying to cause problems but i just want to make my point known that asking questions whether they were asked before or not, should not be discouraged.
Again, i say that the buyers guide is very well informative but noobs such as myself need a little extra help. Everyone had to learn at one point.

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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Simply put, if the forum gets drowned out by the cacophony of repetitive questions, especially ones answerable by the Buyer's Guide or Freakin' Google, then alot of people are going to simply not bother coming here anymore, and you will be left with alot of questions but no one left to answer them. Seriously, the Buyer's guide is a great step at cut down the repetativeness, but if people would also use the SEARCH BOARDS button on the left people could get their info and not ask for the 278th time. "How do I mod my R9600Pro into an R9800XT" (oh wait they only asked that once so far), ok well maybe "What's AA/AF", "Who's better ATI/nV/Matrox/SiS or the incredible IntelExtremeGophers!", "Who makes the best ATI cards". The Search function will answer the question far better than any single new thread could.

We all requested/started the guide to cut down on the same lame questions every day. If you bore people, the people who have the knowledge and advice you seek will leave, and find greener pastures (I know many people have been close a few times).

For the number of questions that can be answered by;

<b>Check Google, It works!</b>

Those questions/inquirers deserve derision. At least the entertainment factor of that would keep some of the regulars entertained.


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[Stinkfinger]

This is true, never relly thought about it totally, I always think as the glass being half empty, know what i mean. I withdraw comments.
These Forums do ROCK i must say, Thats why im here. Thanks for setting me straight. And so you know, these forums are what made me decide on buying my Video card.

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[Spitfire_x86]

Most of the retailers are selling R9800SE for $140-$150?

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[bandikoot]

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=48&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=4905" target="_new"> Newegg </A>, <A HREF="http://www.pricewatch.com/" target="_new"> and others </A> so while they can be more expensive it seems pretty easy to find them well under the $200 category.

 

[pauldh]

Yeah 9800se prices have been dropping big time. As low as $135 new and $100 refurb. They are now down where hey belong near the R9600 pro in price.

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