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June 23, 2003 1:56:41 PM

Anyone know of a good defrag program besides the one built into Windows XP? I remember reading about a few that were supposedly MUCH better than the standard Windows Defrag, but I can't seem to remember which ones people said were good. Thanks for any suggestions.
June 23, 2003 6:43:27 PM

<A HREF="http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/" target="_new">PerfectDisk 6.0</A>.

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June 23, 2003 8:07:22 PM

Hey Toey,

Would this handle a raid 5 array setup? ...or is that a raid (promise) utility that would perform a similar defrag-type function??
June 23, 2003 9:59:58 PM

Yes. According to the Raxco Knowledge Base, article 324 entitled, "Does PerfectDisk defragment RAID or mirror sets?" states:

<i>"Yes! Because the underlying disk technology is hidden from PerfectDisk by Windows, the only thing that matters to PerfectDisk is that the file system is either FAT16, FAT32 or NTFS. PerfectDisk makes sure that files are logically contiguous, regardless of what type of disk technology is being used."</i>

This was in regards to the Win2K and WinXP platforms, and version 6.0 of the software.

Knowledge Base Article 366 also states that PerfectDisk 6.0 supports all levels of RAID.

Be aware though, that the utility cannot defragment volumes with cluster sizes larger than 4KB, but this restriction is <i>only</i> with Win2K, due to constraints in the Microsoft Defrag APIs. This isn't applicable with newer operating systems such as WinXP or Windows Server 2003.

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July 2, 2003 12:31:26 PM

Would you eleborate on why another program is better than Windows XP (home) at defragmenting? Specifics?

THX
July 2, 2003 3:41:14 PM

Here's a link to a page that lists many of the differences between the better utilities such as the full version of Diskeeper and the built-in Windows defragmenter.

<A HREF="http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/dkvsxpdefrag.asp" target="_new">Diskeeper vs. Built-In Defragmenters</A>

This page shows some of the additional features that come with PerfectDisk vs Diskeeper and the built-in Windows defragmenter. (Adobe.pdf file link)

<A HREF="http://www.raxcosoftware.com/info/RXO/PD2KvsALL.pdf" target="_new">Raxco’s PerfectDisk® 2000 vs. Other Defragmenters</A>

Mind you, this was with PerfectDisk v4.0, and the most recent version (version 6, build 26) is vastly improved in terms of speed and the amount of system resources required to run the program. It also supports Active Directory, can be fully controlled and scheduled using Group Policy, can be run from the Command Line, and has many useful features for network defragmentaton scheduling. In addition, the utility has an auto-update feature, and can support hard drives up to a terabyte in size.

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July 2, 2003 3:41:57 PM

Many other 3rd party solutions offer better speed while defragmenting. Also, many of the 3rd party programs are more optimized, meaning they get the fragmentation down to 0%. I've run the Windows defragger many times in succession and the lowest I can usually get it is about 3-5%.
July 10, 2003 1:12:56 AM

It might chew your hand a bit and for some leave holes in it but the best defrag utility is the one that comes with XP.

Only criticism is that it does not handle large files too well such as a backup set.

Just watch out for the bite, you will not like it.
July 10, 2003 8:42:03 PM

VoptXP
Diskeeper
Perfectdisk

All are better than the built in XP version which I believe is diskeeper lite.

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July 12, 2003 12:48:13 PM

I just want to note that I once used the difrag option that came with Norton Utils 2002 and it corrupted a folder of mine. Not just A folder, but THE folder - system32.
1. Format
2. Reinstall WinXP
3. Never ever use Norton Utils again!

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July 13, 2003 7:03:09 AM

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July 16, 2003 2:04:04 PM

I'm sorry to say this guys, but defragmentation is one of the most useless features which is used unnecessarily and sometimes causin more harm than good.
July 16, 2003 8:22:59 PM

Well lets see, it speeds my computer up drastically and it hasn't ever cause a single problem. With NTFS I can yank the power cord durring a defrag and still not have a problem.

How is this useless or problematic?
July 16, 2003 9:32:22 PM

Well, who am I to oppose when ur computer speeds up drastically after defrag. May be it was an overstatement when I said it was entirely useless. But, may be not in ur case, I see many people including me running it and getting nothing out of it. What happens if u try defragmenting in case of bad sectors which is not a rare scenario and tell me if it makes it worse or better.
July 17, 2003 6:31:11 AM

If you do p2p filesharing your computer will literally slow to a halt if you don't defrag. You probably could kill the hard drive since it's skipping all over the platters to find stuff when the drive isn't defragged and especially if you don't organize the position of the files/folders/directories/MFT, etc that these programs do.

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July 17, 2003 10:22:36 AM

My file system sees a lot of use. I am constantly downloading, and then sorting files into categories. And pretty much on a daily basis I rip all the files on a DVD to a folder, then recompress those files and store the result in a different folder on a different drive. I am also constantly installing, uninstalling, updating, patching ect.

So my file system sees a lot of changes and things get framented pretty fast.

Plus I only defragment about once or twice a month. If I defraged once a day I would never see any difference and that would be a good thing :) .

As for bad sectors, you don't really get those on modern hard drives anymore. I have owned 11 hard drives and only one ever developed any bad sectors. That was a 3 gig and it was pretty long in the tooth.

If you have a hard drive with bad sectors, do a bad sector retest. If it really had bad sectors then toss it.

If you can't trust the intergitiy of your hard drive enough to do a defrag then you shouldn't be using it.
July 17, 2003 11:19:05 AM

Guess I have to take my words back. huh! I know the fact that if I do defrag too freequently, it doesn't make sense and that's something I don't have time for. I'm speaking about my personal experience and it never made any noticable difference ever doing defrag. I multiboot with 98, 2000, slackware linux and also the BeOS and basically I had many partitions and seperate partitions for audio, video, each os and may be the no of pertitions is the reason I never noticed any improvement after defrag.

But thans for the feedback
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