How to Fax without a Landline???

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Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am playing
with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing that is holding me
back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to use online services as most
the time I am sending personal information.

Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my printer
(HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my computer (Gateway
500XL)?

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I've seen Fax software for dial-up modems...usually it came with the
software for the modem like my parent's 3Com v.92 modem.

Just search around on google "fax software + modem" or somesuch.

I wonder if it's possible to do this on broadband using voip? hehhehehe.

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I use a free efax.com account to receive faxes and a low cost alternative of
send2fax.com to send faxes. Works fine. Very reliable faxing.


"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
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> Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am playing
> with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing that is holding
> me back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to use online services as
> most the time I am sending personal information.
>
> Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my
> printer (HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my computer
> (Gateway 500XL)?
>

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There are some models of cell phones that can be used as a mobile fax modem.
You would be required to have the phone's optional interface connectors, and
software package. You will need to use a computer, connected to the cell
phone, as if it was a modem.

I have a laptop where I am doing this with a Motorola V270c Travelmate cell
phone. I can also use the cell phone as a dialup modem for internet
services.

Take care that cell phones are expensive to use for data services. Before
getting involved like this, it is best to call your local telephone company
and make enquiries about their fees for these services.

--

JANA
_____


"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
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Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am playing
with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing that is holding me
back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to use online services as most
the time I am sending personal information.

Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my printer
(HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my computer (Gateway
500XL)?

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Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

> Dan Jensen wrote:
>
>>Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am
>>playing with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing
>>that is holding me back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to
>>use online services as most the time I am sending personal
>>information.
>>Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my
>>printer (HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my
>>computer (Gateway 500XL)?
>
>
> No. Faxing requires the use of an analogue fax modem attached to a
> land-based phone line. How on earth you thought you could attach a mobile to
> a printer and use it as a fax machine, I really don't know. Fax data signals
> need to be carried by cables they don't (TTBOMK) travel very well through
> air...
>
Not true.
Fax signals have been sent by radio for over 40 years.
Thers is at least one story of a FAX signal being sent via a light
beam (early 1800s).

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In message <hrZ7e.82548$t%4.62091@fe07.highwinds-media.phx> "Miss
Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote:

>Dan Jensen wrote:
>> Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am
>> playing with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing
>> that is holding me back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to
>> use online services as most the time I am sending personal
>> information.
>> Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my
>> printer (HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my
>> computer (Gateway 500XL)?
>
>No. Faxing requires the use of an analogue fax modem attached to a
>land-based phone line. How on earth you thought you could attach a mobile to
>a printer and use it as a fax machine, I really don't know. Fax data signals
>need to be carried by cables they don't (TTBOMK) travel very well through
>air...

Well, in fairness it's not just a printer, it's a multifunction device
which includes a "fax' feature.

In reality, most of the HP multifunction units I've played with don't
really support faxing natively, they simply instruct the PC to pass the
scanned document to a fax client. However, I haven't bothered to look
up this model, it might have an integrated fax component (modem).

More importantly, many cell phones are capable of acting as modems
supporting both modem and fax style data calls. There is no modem in
the phone itself, it passes the digital data and the conversion to
analog happens on the cell company's side.

All that being said, unless the multifunction can handle an external
modem, it's not possible to use it in this way without a PC. With a PC
in the middle and an appropriate datacable or bluetooth capable phone,
it shouldn't be a problem.

--
Like a lot of husbands throughout history, Mr. Webster
would sit down and try to talk to his wife.
As soon as he'd say something though, she'd fire back with,
"And just what the hell is THAT supposed to mean?"
Thus, Webster's Dictionary was born.

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WTC wrote:

> "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
> news:hrZ7e.82548$t%4.62091@fe07.highwinds-media.phx...
>
>>Dan Jensen wrote:
>>
>>>Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am
>>>playing with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing
>>>that is holding me back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to
>>>use online services as most the time I am sending personal
>>>information.
>>>Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my
>>>printer (HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my
>>>computer (Gateway 500XL)?
>>
>>No. Faxing requires the use of an analogue fax modem attached to a
>>land-based phone line. How on earth you thought you could attach a
>>mobile to a printer and use it as a fax machine, I really don't know.
>>Fax data signals need to be carried by cables they don't (TTBOMK)
>>travel very well through air...
>>
>
>
>
> My cell phone can receive and send faxes, and then you attach it to the
> computer to print the fax.
>
What pnone/carrier do you use?

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Efax is fine BUT they pulled the plug on my free service when I overran my
monthly allowance for received faxes. That meant either paying or switching
to another provider. Paying was out of the question because Efax is based in
the USA and I live in the UK so all calls would have been international and
the cost would have been crippling. Switching to another supplier (and in
fact I couldn't find one as good) would have meant losing my fax number that
I had given to all my contacts. Since I need a landline anyway I dropped
Efax and reverted to faxing through my modem.
J

"Fitz" <linc007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I use a free efax.com account to receive faxes and a low cost alternative
>of send2fax.com to send faxes. Works fine. Very reliable faxing.
>
>
> "Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
> news:WI2dnQ9VmLZJzP3fRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>> Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am
>> playing with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing that is
>> holding me back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to use online
>> services as most the time I am sending personal information.
>>
>> Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my
>> printer (HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my
>> computer (Gateway 500XL)?
>>
>
>

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>>>
> Well, in fairness it's not just a printer, it's a multifunction device
> which includes a "fax' feature.
>
> In reality, most of the HP multifunction units I've played with don't
> really support faxing natively, they simply instruct the PC to pass the
> scanned document to a fax client. However, I haven't bothered to look
> up this model, it might have an integrated fax component (modem).
>
> More importantly, many cell phones are capable of acting as modems
> supporting both modem and fax style data calls. There is no modem in
> the phone itself, it passes the digital data and the conversion to
> analog happens on the cell company's side.
>
> All that being said, unless the multifunction can handle an external
> modem, it's not possible to use it in this way without a PC. With a PC
> in the middle and an appropriate datacable or bluetooth capable phone,
> it shouldn't be a problem.
>

In hoping for further thoughts... the good news is that this all-in-one is
able to send a fax without having to go through the computer. It just
needs the phone line. Is there anyway to connect the all-in-one phone jack
to the cell phone?

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Good reply, as you didn't previously mention before (I don't think) that you
wanted to get rid of the landline & its cost.
I also have cable, so just hooked into my normal phoneline & ran a cable &
socket to the vicinity of my PC.


--

johnf

>> Getting rid of your landline eliminates the ability to fax normaly, as
>> you know,
>> I gather the landline connection is part of your normal phoneline, so
>> why not just continue to use it that way for faxing only?
>>
>
> Great question... the truth of the matter is that I recently switched to
> high-speed cable. I come to realize that 90% of our calling is now done
> through our cell phones and we are paying $25+ a month for the landline.
> This surfaced the question, why not save $300 a year. I started to
> talk to others who have already gone down this path. It sounds the
> only major problem with getting rid of the landline is how to fax.
>
> It looks like the leading possibility is using an online service. I am
> still very hopeful that there might be a way to get either the computer
> or all-in-one to the cell phone.

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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:12:09 -0700, "Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net>
wrote:

| > Getting rid of your landline eliminates the ability to fax normaly, as you
| > know,
| > I gather the landline connection is part of your normal phoneline, so why
| > not just continue to use it that way for faxing only?
| >
|
| Great question... the truth of the matter is that I recently switched to
| high-speed cable. I come to realize that 90% of our calling is now done
| through our cell phones and we are paying $25+ a month for the landline.
| This surfaced the question, why not save $300 a year. I started to talk
| to others who have already gone down this path. It sounds the only major
| problem with getting rid of the landline is how to fax.
|
| It looks like the leading possibility is using an online service. I am
| still very hopeful that there might be a way to get either the computer or
| all-in-one to the cell phone.

Since you now have high-speed cable, you could save about $120 instead
of $300 by going with a VOIP such as Vonage and keeping the ability to
send and receive faxes via phone. I did that recently and have been
very pleased with it. Since I had been using the cell phone for 100%
of my long distance calls, I was able to save further by cutting my
level of cell service and using Vonage for most long distance.

Larc



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"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
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<< Snip >>
> In hoping for further thoughts... the good news is that this all-in-one is
> able to send a fax without having to go through the computer. It just
> needs the phone line. Is there anyway to connect the all-in-one phone
> jack to the cell phone?
>
>
>
Go to the following link and check out the http://sandman.com/pouches.html
"Cellular POTS Adapters" a little way down the page.

With luck they will have one that fits your cellular phone. Rather than
pluging in a "Ma Bell" style phone into the adaptor you would plug in your
fax machine.

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Efax has a free incoming fax option if you receive less than 25 faxes a
month. I think it's 25. Any more than that and you have to sign up for a
paid account.


"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <5d08e.63042$QB6.3020833@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
> Fitz <linc007@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>I use a free efax.com account to receive faxes and a low cost alternative
>>of
>>send2fax.com to send faxes. Works fine. Very reliable faxing.
>>
>
> Why do you use efax for incomming calls. Is there something efax does
> that send2fax doesn't ?
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
>>news:WI2dnQ9VmLZJzP3fRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>> Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am
>>> playing
>>> with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing that is
>>> holding
>>> me back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to use online services
>>> as
>>> most the time I am sending personal information.
>>>
>>> Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my
>>> printer (HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my
>>> computer
>>> (Gateway 500XL)?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>
> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

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You are correct. However I've had 3 free efax accounts for several years
now. I've only received two 2 page faxes not meant for me. I contacted
efax and they deleted those faxes from my monthly quota. But as I said, you
can sign up for send2fax.com to send and receive faxes. I just didn't like
paying to receive faxes so I used the efax accounts.


"John Rampling" <John@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Fitz" <linc007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gUi8e.65611$JL2.1986696@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>> Efax has a free incoming fax option if you receive less than 25 faxes a
>> month. I think it's 25. Any more than that and you have to sign up for
>> a paid account.
>>
>>
>
> That's right. Problem is, you can't control incoming faxes - if some idiot
> decides to send you a 26-page fax then bang goes your free account. It
> happened to me so now I've dropped Efax.
>
> J
>

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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:58:51 +0100, "Miss Perspicacia Tick"
<test@test.com> wrote:

>Dan Jensen wrote:
>> Since everyone in the family has cell phones with voice mail, I am
>> playing with the idea of getting rid of the landline. One thing
>> that is holding me back is how to fax. I am a little reluctant to
>> use online services as most the time I am sending personal
>> information.
>> Is there a way I could use my cell phone (LG VX4500) with either my
>> printer (HP psc 2210 all-in-one) or connect it to the modem of my
>> computer (Gateway 500XL)?
>
>No. Faxing requires the use of an analogue fax modem attached to a
>land-based phone line. How on earth you thought you could attach a mobile to
>a printer and use it as a fax machine, I really don't know. Fax data signals
>need to be carried by cables they don't (TTBOMK) travel very well through
>air...

Hmm, I've used my Motorola Startac for faxing (Alltel) for 3 or 4
years ... I do not receive faxes via it, however. I _HAVE_ had some
receiving machines that don't work correctly with it, an OKIFAX 8650
being the worst.

The modem driver for it came with the cable ... it is old TrueSync
which does NOT work to download the phonebook, which I why I bought
it.

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"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Great question... the truth of the matter is that I recently switched to
> high-speed cable. I come to realize that 90% of our calling is now done
> through our cell phones and we are paying $25+ a month for the landline.
> This surfaced the question, why not save $300 a year. I started to talk
> to others who have already gone down this path. It sounds the only major
> problem with getting rid of the landline is how to fax.
>

You may also want to review why you use a fax and if there is some reason to
keep using it. In my case it was because of the "fax it to me" requests. I
would politely ask if they had email and if I could email it to them. That
was usually greeted with "you can do that!, I wish we could get rid of our
fax machine too..." Or when asking if the sender could email something I
would get a happy "yes, I wish more people would ask for that..." So after a
while I was able to simply unplug the fax machine and cancel the landline..


> It looks like the leading possibility is using an online service. I am
> still very hopeful that there might be a way to get either the computer or
> all-in-one to the cell phone.
>
>

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"Peter" <nobody@news.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> It may not happen soon, but with the advent of VOIP and internet phones
> there is talk of the possibility of faxing over cable. The technology is
> there and my cable provider, for one, is already leaking snippets to the
> local media regarding this.


Yes, but my point is why in 2005 do we need to "fax" anything? As I
described most of it simply seems to be because that is what was done in the
past.

> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Home SP2
> P4 dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 1.0gb RAM, 160gb HD
> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
> > news5Gdneglk_D42vzfRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > >
> >>
> >> Great question... the truth of the matter is that I recently switched
to
> >> high-speed cable. I come to realize that 90% of our calling is now
done
> >> through our cell phones and we are paying $25+ a month for the
landline.
> >> This surfaced the question, why not save $300 a year. I started to
> >> talk
> >> to others who have already gone down this path. It sounds the only
> >> major
> >> problem with getting rid of the landline is how to fax.
> >>
> >
> > You may also want to review why you use a fax and if there is some
reason
> > to
> > keep using it. In my case it was because of the "fax it to me" requests.
I
> > would politely ask if they had email and if I could email it to them.
That
> > was usually greeted with "you can do that!, I wish we could get rid of
our
> > fax machine too..." Or when asking if the sender could email something
I
> > would get a happy "yes, I wish more people would ask for that..." So
after
> > a
> > while I was able to simply unplug the fax machine and cancel the
> > landline..
> >
> >
> >> It looks like the leading possibility is using an online service. I am
> >> still very hopeful that there might be a way to get either the computer
> >> or
> >> all-in-one to the cell phone.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>