When will AGP become obsolete?

I think they will still make motherboards with agp for 12 months after pci express is launched, and the sapphire's from newegg r said to have the r360 core which makes them good for overclocking and u can also flash them to a 9800 XT.

Athlon XP 2800+, ASUS A7N8X-X, 512mb PC2700 DDR
128mb ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (439/374)
3D Mark03 Score <font color=red>6,316</font color=red>

By Q4 of 2004, both ATI+Nvidia will stop producing its high-end cards using AGP, and go with pure PCI Express for high-ends. They'll still produce their mainstream cards using the AGP bus.

-AMD Athlon64 3200+@2300mhz -GAK8N -3x512 Hynix PC3200 ram@192mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Albatron 5900PV @ 560/1000 -SB Audigy -Adaptec 1210SA Raid -2x120G Seagate SATA150 7200.7 Raid0 -Enermax 460watt psu

I was asking about motherboards, because it annoys me to think that I wouldn't be able to take my vid card, which will probably still be relevant in 2 years, to my next computer.

Abit IS7 @ 275 FSB, VAGP @ 1.65, OCZ PC4200 RAM @ 550Mhz, P4 2.4 @ 3.3Ghz Vcore @ 1.625, GeXCube Radeon 9600P @ 450/626.
Thermalright SLK-947U, P3 HS @ NB.

Yeah bad news, AGP8X and PCI Express cannot coexist. Good news is PCI Express is still compatible with the current PCI devices.

-AMD Athlon64 3200+@2300mhz -GAK8N -3x512 Hynix PC3200 ram@192mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Albatron 5900PV @ 560/1000 -SB Audigy -Adaptec 1210SA Raid -2x120G Seagate SATA150 7200.7 Raid0 -Enermax 460watt psu

SIS is working on it to make PCI Express 16X with AGP8X, so far no breakthrough yet.

-AMD Athlon64 3200+@2300mhz -GAK8N -3x512 Hynix PC3200 ram@192mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Albatron 5900PV @ 560/1000 -SB Audigy -Adaptec 1210SA Raid -2x120G Seagate SATA150 7200.7 Raid0 -Enermax 460watt psu

AGP will become obsolete the minute PCI-EX is available, does it mean that you won't find any AGP cards/board out there? NO, hell we still have ISA slot boards, and PCI graphics cards.

There will always be niche markets, just like the FX5600PCI. IT's by no means something on the nV roadmap, but it is something they make and support for people.

I would expect AGP to fade far quicker because unlike PCI cards, there is no corporate server market, or multi-monitor option that would stimulate the kind of business that would make ATI and nV keep AGP alive. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a time again where there are more PCI cards made every year than AGP cards.

And I agree with WS, the R9800XT will struggle in about 2 years time. Will it be ABLE to play the games, yeah probably, but in the same way that a GF3 plays current games. No where near the same level as the current cards. Even comparing it to a GF3 may be generous with the amount of change slated for this next gen. and the next generation after that.

Of course only time will tell, as always.


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