MS on Shader Model 3.0

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<A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/winhec/partners/shadermodel30_NVIDIA.mspx" target="_new">Microsoft and NV on VS/PS 3.0</A>

That is a very good article and very informative.. I'd recommend any of you to read it.
If I'm not mistaken, shader model 3.0 combines both vertex and pixel shaders to a single unit rather than keep them seperate.

Bonus link-
<A HREF="http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1703/" target="_new">Hardware Analysis's take on the Geforce 6800</A> after talking with Mark Rein of Epic and NV.


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sweetness


ive seen most of the numbers regarding PS/VS3.0 ...


one of hte most impressive to me, is how vertex shaders can now request textures. VS are responsible for more than most poeople realize, from wavy grass for your StarWarsGalaxies players, to trees that have mulitple layers of transpart leaves .. these are just as important as the few PS effects we have seen (water effects are mostly what pixel shaders are used for now.. newer games like FarCry use it for lighting also)


PS 3.0 seems to be more of an asset to nVidia than I originally thought.. thast if they can render it faster than 5 frames per second *chuckle*

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I hope that R420 does have shader model 3.0, but I doubt it.

I'm pretty convinced that I want it in my next card. With the TWIMTBP program, I think that it will be used at least in those games.
Which is mainly most of the good ones. ie. Serious Sam, Unreal Tournament, Doom 3, Quake 4, Far Cry ect.
Shader model 3.0 is actually a part of the full DX9 spec IIRC.

The latest FarCry patch added PS3.0 support as well as overall NV40 support so they are ready on launch.

I'm saving my pennies, I have a feeling Far Cry and a Geforce 6800 (NV40) will be quite the ticket graphically!

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the R420 will not having PS3.0, from what im reading


and yes.. even if the new Geforce can only run the game in PS2.0, it should be able to with full color precision and effects detail..


SURELY it will be able to play it with higher IQ than the 9800pro.. and at a higher frame rate. thast what one would think

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and yes.. even if the new Geforce can only run the game in PS2.0, it should be able to with full color precision and effects detail..


SURELY it will be able to play it with higher IQ than the 9800pro.. and at a higher frame rate. thast what one would think

Of course it will.
Dude, if it doesnt it'd be ridiculous and I wouldnt buy one.

Not with my money at least.

the R420 will not having PS3.0, from what im reading

Thats what I pretty much came across as well, and that really sucks because if hardware support is out there games wont be picking and choosing between full DX9 spec (NV40) and ATIs DX9 compliance.

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