8500 + Any ATI CATALYST driver = Crashed!!!!

luenmo · Apr 10, 2004

My Config :

CPU - ATHLON XP 2000+ (0.13)
Mother Board - Epox 8K3A Via KT333
Display Card - Grandmars 8500 (275/275)
sound Card- Creative SB5.1
Lan Card - 3Com 3C905C-TX
DDR 512Mb Ram

WindowsXP SP1
DirectX 9.0b

Remark :
1.no install any Via driver
2.8500 flashed bios to 9100 (still crash)

no problem when using non ATI CATALYST

markgun · Apr 10, 2004

no install any Via driver

Why don't you have the VIA drivers installed? You MUST install them, as one of drivers in their package is the AGP driver.
<A HREF="http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=300" target="_new">Get them here</A>.

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luenmo · Apr 10, 2004

install Via driver still crashed

kinney · Apr 10, 2004

ati legacy support isnt the greatest.

talk to ati

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PukePile · Apr 10, 2004

did you uninstall catalyst befor you installed the via drivers?

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pauldh · Apr 10, 2004

probably not, but that is the way it should have been done.

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AMD_Man · Apr 10, 2004

When does it crash?

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pauldh · Apr 10, 2004

Hey now, don't blame the drivers on this one.

I'd say it's usually at least 95% user error and other system problems/instabilities causing a crash. Maybe 3% bad hardware and the remaining 2% the drivers at the most.

What is a Grandmars 8500 anyway? Never heard of that one, maybe try powered by Reference drivers not just the generic ATI ones. What is the history of the problem? Existing stable system, video card upgrade, driver upgrade? What procedures were taken to uninstall old drivers and reinstall all drivers correctly? Etc. Bios flashed to a Radeon 9100? Why? No Via 4-in1's? WHY?

Remove all ATI drivers and Via chipset drivers, reboot, reinstall Via 4in1 drivers and try the drivers from Grandmars (whoever that is, not an ATI partner anyway) or from ATI's powered by support pages <A HREF="http://mirror.ati.com/support/powered.html" target="_new">HERE</A>

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luenmo · Apr 10, 2004

i used norton ghost for backup ,no driver installed

and no problem when i using non CATALYST driver

PukePile · Apr 10, 2004

What driver where you useing then?If its for a readon it has to at least be based on the catalyst driver.

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pauldh · Apr 10, 2004

Was it the native Windows XP driver or the driver from the installation disc that came with your video card?

Who makes that card? I that the actual brand?

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GeneticWeapon · Apr 11, 2004

ati legacy support isnt the greatest.

talk to ati

STFU

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GeneticWeapon · Apr 11, 2004

This guy could have done anything to cause this problem, but it's a great opertunity for asss hats like Kinney to throw stones at ATi. He probably flashed a 128mb 9100 bios onto his 64mb 8500....we'll never kow though.

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gossspel · Apr 11, 2004

Dude, Grandmars is a Hong Kong hardware brandname who oem from POWERCOLOR! So you can expect its quality..............

pauldh · Apr 11, 2004

thx, I never heard of them. But powercolor sure rings a bell. :tongue:

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kinney · Apr 11, 2004

intelligent.

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kinney · Apr 11, 2004

I'm just sayin, ATI wouldnt be a half bad place to check for help.

Ya think? :tongue:

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GeneticWeapon · Apr 11, 2004

Yea, I can hear him now talking to ATi tech support...."I flashed my 8500 to a 9100, and now it crashes constantly".....talk about being stupid Kinney, go stand in the corner....

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kinney · Apr 11, 2004

I would assume that he'd put that back before calling ATI support... :tongue:

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phial · Apr 11, 2004

rofl!!!!!!

actually, nvidia's new drivers on my "legacy" ti4200 isnt the best either, im using 45.25 for best image/speed... so there Kinney ;P

ATI is known for crappy drivers tho.. i wonder what drivers he is using, OMEGA?

thread author, please tell us :

1 what drivers you are using, and where you got them

2 what happens wen you crash.. is it in games, or just random freezing in windows?

3 did it work before ? just started happening? Catalysts have been out for a while, did you just pick this card up?

4 anything else that would help us out

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neveroldmilk · Apr 11, 2004

Funny!I dont know what really happened to you,but my system is just like yours(my CPU 1800+).And I have problem also,you know what the problem really are?The terrible killer mobo "8K3A+"!It have terminated three of my hard disks and one poor Dram.So replace your mobo,and try.Maybe it is the criminal.

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phial · Apr 11, 2004

so you have the same mobo, and you also cant use Catalyst drivers?

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neveroldmilk · Apr 11, 2004

Actually the system cant even work properly.I have no idea how stupid of me to choose this [-peep-] mobo.

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phial · Apr 11, 2004

ok no offense but your post has nothing to do with his problem

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neveroldmilk · Apr 11, 2004

Maybe the mobo is reasponsible for this matter.^_^

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