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Hey guys and gals

I just bought a Radeon 9800 PRO (I know the new cards are out, but they are too pricy for me right now) and I'm a little paranoid that things aren't working perfectly. When going through the Benchmarks here at Toms Hardware, I'm used to seeing frame rates for the 9800PRO over 100 (at least in older games) but I'm not seeing too much of that.

I started up Return to castle wolfenstien as a first test, figuring it would be easy for my new card. I fired up FRAPS to keep an eye on my frame rate. I was a little surprised to see that the game was only around 91 frames per second. that was pretty close to what I could get on my old 9000 PRO. just to see, I tired bumping up the settings to the max resolution on my monitor, and it still was around 91 frames per second, then I tried 4xAA and 8xAF, and STILL it was around 91 frames per second.

A few other games are performing below what i would expect too. Far Cry doesn't work too well in some spots (the start of the demo level is real slow) and with all of my games, Whatever I do to the resolution though, these games run about the same. I can put on low textures or high ones, and the framerates are always the same.

I scratched my head and then wondered if I'm being held back by the rest of my system. I'm running an Athlon XP 2000+ on an MSI KT4V motherboard (VIA KT400 chipset). Is the slower processor and 266MHz Front side bus to blame for less than expected performance, or is my video card actually a little screwed up.

Any advice you can give me would be great, thanks guys!

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uhh i dont think you(human beings) can even tell a diffrence in frame rates after like 50-60fps.

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I'm running an Athlon XP 2000+ on an MSI KT4V motherboard (VIA KT400 chipset). Is the slower processor and 266MHz Front side bus to blame for less than expected performance


Of course, you can blame your CPU. When they review Video cards, they usually do it with the fastest CPU available to make sure the CPU is not the bottleneck.

Read this article :
<A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/index.html" target="_new">http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/index.html</A>

If you wnat to get the most of your card, I strongly recommend you CPU upgrade, your motherboard supports Barton 3000+ with the latest BIOS. You can easily buy one with DDR333 or simply try overclocking your actual CPU. Change the multiplier in the BIOS and if necessary change your CPU voltage to 1.7/1.75 Volts. Usually, all Athlon XP chip can run at 2.0GHz minimum with no or little voltage increase.

Do you already have DDR333? If you have DDR333 you can change your FSB to 166MHz.

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Reply to TheRod

Hi,
2 Things

1) I've got an XP2000+ and all my research on that chip indicates you just can't get any thing more out of it. IF you get much out of it let me know. I'll rethink OCing it. I do like OCing cpu's, just don't wanna waste my time.

2) Unlike with cpu's, I don't OC my vid cards (yet), so don't know much techie stuff on them. However, you say you get the same frame rates no matter what. When reading about v-synch, my understanding was (and I surely could be wrong here) it synchs your frame rates to your monitor's resolution. Thus your framerates ain't gonna go up if v-synch is enabled, no matter what super-duper vid card you got.

Be patient one of the guru's will pass this way and we'll both learn something new :)

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BTW Q3 engine sux so there you go.



the q3 engine is one of the best made

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he still can't raise the FSB cuz his 2000+ is locked.


False, a locked CPU = a multiplier lock, not a FSB lock. So, any locked CPU can be overclocked via FSB.

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So, any locked CPU can be overclocked via FSB.


This is correct. But be advised that OCing FSB, if done via BIOS software, may have undesirable effects since it results in OCing of AGP and PCI bus too (unless your BIOS allows you to lock AGP and PCI bus settings). Some hard drives may fail and some VGA cards may malfunction.

However, on some motherboards it is possible to OC the CPU while locking AGP and PCI using Jumpers. See your documentation for that.

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Reply to Slava

some things:

1. If you're getting the same frame rates when you add tons of AA/AF, your system is holding you back.

2. 2xAA/8xAF is awesome at 90fps, try your 9000 PRO at those settings and watch the slideshow.

3. Good luck overclocking a 2000+. Palomino's suck for overclocking, you should get yourself a cheapo 2400+ thoroughbred if you want to overclock.

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