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May 11, 2004 2:48:34 AM

im looking for some opinions, im buying a new comp and i was wonder what do consider the best card on the market under 200 dollars

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May 11, 2004 2:33:52 PM

If you can spare $7, a $207 Sapphire 9800Pro at newegg.com is faster than anything else remotely close to that price range.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
May 11, 2004 2:57:39 PM

Everone agree : Radeon 9800 PRO is a good choice!

But, if you can wait a couple of weeks (or months). ATI and nVidia will probably drop prices of their cards or we might see some "mid-range" X800/6800 on the market in this price range. By the time, you can save money and buy a faster cards when the market will stabilise.

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a b U Graphics card
May 11, 2004 4:52:15 PM

I honestly don't see the R9800pro dropping much more in price, nor do I see R9800XT getting near the $200 point. No other current card offers R9800pro performance, so what is there to wait for? Also, I do not believe that the next generation midrange cards will be near R9800pro performance. $300 cards sure that's possible, but $200 cards, no way. IMO R9800pro is the $200 card to buy and when they are gone, I doubt there will be a sub $200 card anytime soon to match its performance.


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May 11, 2004 6:05:09 PM

also the 9700pro, $185 on newegg, about $20 cheaper than 9800pro and only small proformance difference. 9800pro is about 5% faster.
May 11, 2004 7:00:43 PM

ATI's web site. Trade in your old vid card 9800Pro $199. Or Best Buy this week 9800Pro $249.99 with $50 mail in rebate smae price. Also BBA.
May 11, 2004 11:46:47 PM

9800 Pro only 5% faster?! What the hell have you been smoking? Wake up fargot.

Definately get the 9800 Pro.

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a b U Graphics card
May 12, 2004 12:33:13 AM

Could also be interesting to see what the X800SE has to bring to the table. I'm not expecting much but it's a consideration if you're in no hurry.

Right now, my choice, either an R9800Pro for the ~$200 mark, or and R9600Pro and save the difference and buy more memory, or beer, or more ginko because you have no memory because you drink too much beer! :evil: 


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May 12, 2004 2:40:36 AM

Damn beer...always getting in my way...I've got to go to school, I'm late! oh..PM..not AM, silly beer. You almost had me, not this time, you went down like a sack of potatoes. But maybe that movie was a true story, I better make sure. Carry on my Wayward Son! There'll be peice when you are done. Lay your weary head to rest...don't you cry no more...

screw the signature
May 12, 2004 12:04:40 PM

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save the difference and buy more memory, or beer, or more ginko because you have no memory because you drink too much beer!

I really like the fact that you like beer! I personaly love the <A HREF="http://www.unibroue.com/english.cfm" target="_new">Unibroue</A> products, they all have their own personnality and taste.

<b>A good recipe for a summer drink :</b>
1 <A HREF="http://www.unibroue.com/products/raftman.cfm" target="_new">Raftman</A> beer
About 30ml of concentrated Iced Tea (I usually buy <A HREF="http://www.nestle.ca/en/Products/Browse_by_Category/Bev..." target="_new">Nestlé</A>)

Mix together and enjoy!

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May 12, 2004 3:50:57 PM

Their web sit last week still had tradein.
May 12, 2004 3:52:37 PM

Now IF you can buy X800Pro for that price.
May 12, 2004 4:25:14 PM

I know this is off topic, but I had to post my grief. I fried my last 9800Pro and got another one. Here are the new dismal numbers (in comparison to the other).

<A HREF="http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=168747924..." target="_new">AquaMark3</A>

-- the Doc

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P4 2.8C@3.4
512mb Mushkin 3500 Level II@472 (2-2-2)
R9800Pro@463/380
(grrrr.....I fried this one)
WD 80gb(SE)x2(RAID 0)
May 12, 2004 6:36:13 PM

I, too, am quite interested in seeing the X800SE... sure, it might have a 128-bit bus, but the X800 PRO blasts the 9800XT so hard that you have to wonder if an X800SE could keep up with the old king.

Then again, if the cheapest 6800 has 12 pipes and a 256 bit bus, it might be the market-leader in that category. The real interesting stuff will hit when these cards are introduced.

Knowing whose got the best card is nice, but knowing whose got the best card I can afford is the real deal.

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May 12, 2004 6:53:16 PM

I think I'm going with the ATI 9800 Pro deal from Best Buy (Replace my GF4 MX420). Seems to be the best deal I've seen around. Plus I want to have everything hooked up in time for HL2.
I'm running a Dell 4550 P4 2.6 w/ 250w power supply. Sounds like I shouldn't have any problems with the psu? Can't wait to see what life is like out from underneath the mx420!!!
May 12, 2004 7:21:52 PM

Upgrading for an unreleased game is silly, because when the game is released, video cards will be cheaper.

Guaranteed.

As for the PSU, it might work, but if your system is unstable it'll be a likely culprit.
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May 12, 2004 7:44:33 PM

eh....I was silly and didn´t cool it enough. Did you see what I was running it at?
Anyways, I got another one, and in the luck of the draw I got one with hynix 2.8ns and the R350 core....oh well. Maybe that´s the way the vidcard gods keep me from frying another one of there own....by not being able to push it. This sucker doesn´t even get hot before it starts to show artifacts; the memory is really holding me back.

-- the Doc

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P4 2.8C@3.4
512mb Mushkin 3500 Level II@472 (2-2-2)
R9800Pro@463/380
(grrrr.....I fried this one)
WD 80gb(SE)x2(RAID 0)
a b U Graphics card
May 12, 2004 8:41:12 PM

BEST, the VERY <b>BEST</b>, UniBroue drink is <A HREF="http://www.unibroue.com/products/qqch.cfm" target="_new">Quelque Chose</A> (roughly translates to 'something or other' or 'a little something'). It's a like a porter or dark scotch ale WITH real Cherry Juice. OMG, it's F'n Great!!! But it's expensive in Alberta at $6-8 per 500ml bottle. (Cheaper in Quebec). It is just a GREAT brew. I use the Nestea stuff on it's own, that Raspberry stuff is good in CocaCola too. I will give the Raspberry a try with a little Raftman this weekend (it's supposed to be summer but there was about 8-10cm of snow on the ground yesterday!).

I like Raftman too, I like the fact that it also referments in the bottle with that little sediment of yeast and wurt. MMMmmmm Good Stuff! Maudite is GREAT even for the name alone.

I miss all the selection from Ontario Brewer's Retail stores (know 'The Beer Store') over 150 beers to choose from all local!

I also enjoyed Boreal Rousse, Blanche de Chambly, and even Okeefe Extra Old Stock, straight from the brewery. You can also get special brews like Sleeman RED, only available in Quebec and the Ottawa Valley.

Big Rock out here is ok, but nothing compares to Eastern Beer! Even Alpine and Moosehead is better IMO.


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a b U Graphics card
May 12, 2004 10:15:22 PM

Yeah it'll be interesting to see what they both do.

A higer clocked 128bit memory card doesn't make as much sense as a slower clocked 256bit memory card, as the memory is cheaper for lower speeds. 3.3ns 275mhz 256bit memory would make more sense IMO than 500mhz 128bit memory (just as made up examples).

Could be exciting. Als remember that there will be the RV380 and the R9550, as well as the RV410 mid-entry and RV370 low-end for the fall.

Alot of possible 'best fits' is you work hard at meeting your needs. The RV380 hasn't shown anything of interest, but it would be nice to see the feature set of the RV410.


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May 12, 2004 11:42:47 PM

show me a benchmark where there was more than a 5-7% proformance difference between the 9700pro and 9800pro. I've maybe seen one or 2, that being farcry. I was just mentioning the 9700pro cause he could go do something better with that 30$. Buy a case of beer or something. Never said it was the better card.
May 13, 2004 12:18:34 PM

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BEST, the VERY BEST, UniBroue drink is Quelque Chose

The Quelque Chose is meant to be drink HOT. Have you tried it? It's something really different than drinking it cold. You can heat it into the microwave or on the oven. The taste it's so different. I personally don't like it much when it's served HOT, but it's something to try.

Byt the way, I live near Montreal. Have you heard the news that Sleeman bought Unibroue. I wish Sleeman will keep all the good Unibroue products and branding.

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I use the Nestea stuff on it's own, that Raspberry stuff is good in CocaCola too. I will give the Raspberry a try with a little Raftman this weekend

You should get the "frozen citrus iced tea concentrate" from Nestea. It's the one I use and it's the one it's serve at <A HREF="http://www.fourquet-fourchette.com/en/" target="_new">Fourquet-Fourchette</A>. This restaurant have an association with Unibroue, all their meal use beer sauce or beer cooking. They only use local products, this is an incredible place! If someday, you come to Montreal you must go there.

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I like the fact that it also referments in the bottle with that little sediment of yeast and wurt.

Most of Unibroue product referments in bottle. Is the U and U2 are available in Alberta, if you can get them. The are good summer beers, I personnaly really like the U2 which is very good with fine cheese.

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I miss all the selection from Ontario Brewer's Retail stores (know 'The Beer Store') over 150 beers to choose from all local!

In Quebec, most grocery store offers at least 20 local and micro-brewery products. And usually a selection of imported beers (Heineken, Corona, etc...).

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I also enjoyed Boreale Rousse

It's funny that you mention that beer, I live in Blainville the city where they brew this beer.

If you find someday "Le Cheval Blanc" products, try them, they are very good. A product I like from the west coast is the Rickard's Red, I know it's not a local beer anymore, but I like it!

Is this a Computer forum??? :smile:

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May 13, 2004 5:04:37 PM

hahaha@not plugging the fan in. Nope, the fan was plugged in, just pushed it a little too much....oh well. Was fun while it lasted, and didn´t have to pay for the new card, so no big deal.

-- the Doc

8PENXP(Rev.2)
P4 2.8C@3.4
512mb Mushkin 3500 Level II@472 (2-2-2)
R9800Pro@463/380
(grrrr.....I fried this one)
WD 80gb(SE)x2(RAID 0)
a b U Graphics card
May 13, 2004 9:45:57 PM

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The Quelque Chose is meant to be drink HOT.

Yeah, but I prefer it cold, VERY cold in fact. It's just awesome!

I used to buy the frozen stuff when I lived out east. And yes their citrus is great, you can only buy the raspberry and lemon out here. I also liked the McCain's stuff, but you can get it here either.

I've seen adds for U2, but never actually had it. I'll be in Hull in the summer. I used to live in Montreal downtown, NDG and the Plateau in the early 90s.

In the city most of the grocery stores didn't carry great selection, they were more about volume, but they didn't do too bad, and there's something to be said for having beer at the local Dep.

I have tried Le Cheval Blanc stuff, but the one's that stick in my head are Unibroue, Boreal, and Okeefe. Brador was ok for Chili but mediocre for drinking.

And Computers + Beer is only natural, just look at any engineering department. :evil: 


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May 14, 2004 12:16:50 PM

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I used to live in Montreal downtown, NDG and the Plateau in the early 90s.

So, you probably miss Montreal, I think it's an amazing city in summer with all the fest, free shows, sports events, etc... This summer will be special for me, I have a 2 months old daughter and I will carry her to music festivals (JAZZ and FrancoFolies) and probably to Just For Laughs too! This will be different, my first summer in Montreal as a proud father!

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I have tried Le Cheval Blanc stuff, but the one's that stick in my head are Unibroue, Boreal, and Okeefe.

I try to avoid Molson, O'Keefe and Labatt products. I prefer to give my money to small brewery that make efforts to distingish themseleves among the others.

<A HREF="http://www.dieuduciel.com/" target="_new">Dieu Du Ciel</A> have very interesting products, but they are not available anywhere. You must go to their own PUB to drink their beers. They have a "Smoked Beer" and a "Pepper Beer", both are very tasty and so different. The first time I tried thes beers was at the <A HREF="http://ttp://www.festivalmondialbiere.qc.ca/" target="_new">"Mondial de la bière"</A>.

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And Computers + Beer is only natural, just look at any engineering department.

I agree, nothing is better than a beer while installing/overclocking/messing with a PC. Beer is very good to distract while rebooting a system. :smile:

It's friday, and the sun will heat the place! 27 Celsius by the end of the day! This will be the perfect temperature for a cold beer! Cheers!

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a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2004 7:08:25 PM

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So, you probably miss Montreal

Yep, if you added a few jobs, it would be the BEST city in North America by a long shot.

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I think it's an amazing city in summer with all the fest, free shows, sports events, etc...

I asusme by etc... you mean women in this year's nice new filmy fashions. Watch the ladies switch from winter wear, to whoa-there wear! Most fashionable and sexy women in N.Am. :cool:

I agree with support the small brewers, but sometimes you gottsta get what you can find a the Dep (not all of them have big fridges).

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I agree, nothing is better than a beer while installing/overclocking/messing with a PC.

Yep, look at the picture of my rig in the Album, and you'll see 2 nice (and empty) stubbies of RedCap beer by Brick (small Ontario brewery [I think they are now owned by Sleeman's too :lol:  ).

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It's friday, and the sun will heat the place! 27 Celsius by the end of the day! This will be the perfect temperature for a cold beer! Cheers!

Yep, summer (still to come I know) would be intolerable in Montreal if it weren't for Beer, Patio Bars, and Homade IceCream Shops on the Plateau, near parc Lafontaine and the Tam-Tams (drummers).

Enjoy the time with your daughter, definitely ALOT to do. Definitely great city in the summer time. Even just a trip to the old port can be a GREAT day by itself. The buskers (street entertainers) have to try-out for their licences so it ensures quality entertainment. And if you're tired of the city, there's good 'cottage' country within 1hr in every direction.


- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK :evil: 
May 16, 2004 8:10:06 AM

Thanks for the Best Buy info, Just picked one up tonight (last day of the $50 rebate 5-15)also the other great thing about getting this card at BB, is the reward points (if you have the BB Reward Card) this card is enough points for $10or more reward coupon
SO -> $249- $50 rebate - $10 reward points coupon = $190 ... I do not think I can beat taht for the performance of the 9800pro
So thanks again for the Info ! ;) 
Cheers
May 16, 2004 3:43:08 PM

are you really a chef?

"This Steel ain't stainless, Your bloodstains are all over this steel."
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May 16, 2004 9:21:57 PM

I have been know to cook up a few things ;) 
May 16, 2004 9:43:22 PM

Quelque chose = something
Le cheval blanc = The white horse (horse=cheval , blanc=white)

Me from ---> Quebec
The main difference between Here and US is the criminality...There is like 40 murder per year in canada.....and over 30000 is united state...

You can walk in street in the night if you want....people dont lock their door when they are at home and often dont lock them when they are away.
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May 17, 2004 12:02:16 AM

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....people dont lock their door when they are at home and often dont lock them when they are away.

thats because noone wants to steal anything from canadians.

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