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green vertical lines... crap, I am a dumb @ss

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May 12, 2004 5:28:03 PM

I added a 1U P4 heatsink/fan and some ramsinks that fell off to my Sapphire ATI 9500np, and now I have vertical green lines... I see them even at first post screen, then they go away, but then they come back at windows logon... I see 20+ of them about 1mm wide and 1cm long spaced out everywhere on my monitor...

I will go into details on how I think I might have screwed up, but I want to get some quick ideas about the green lines that may well have ended the happy computer gaming world as I know it...

**************************************** OK, here I go...

1st dumb@ss move: tightening my screws too tight on the modded heatsink... I was using springs with a washer on each side of it, but it was turning easy, so I just cranked it down... later I noticed the part of the card that plugs into the agp slot was slightly bowed... I loosened it up then... during this process, the two ramsinks on the far edge of the video card popped off...

At this stage I just wanted to see if my card was working... I played FarCry for a few hours with no problems on Saturday...

Sunday, while my wife was in the shower so I will not get yelled at for doing computer work on Mother's Day, I put the two ramsinks back on the card... I had been using AS3 and Thurmal Adhesive in a 1:1:1 ratio... BestByte sent me a big tube of AS5 instead of a small tube of AS3 a few weeks ago, so I used AS5 and the AS Thurmal Adhesive in a 1:1:1 ratio... in a rush to beat the wife's shower, I did not take my cautous time... I moved my tool that came with the adhesive from one ramchip to another and inadvertently dropped a string of the goo across the gap between the two ram chips... (Ah... stupid human) I cleaned it up as best as I could...

When I put the card in the next day, I got the vertical green lines distortion...

I cleaned up the space between the ram some more and loosened up the heatsink again as well, and I was able to boot with no green lines... but after playing FarCry for 20 minutes or so, the green lines appeared in game, this time as 5 or so 1cm thick lines that ran down the entire screen... but then they went away after a few seconds... a few minutes after that, I shut down and went to bed... nightmares...

When I get home I will take off the heatsink, clean everything, and reapply the AS5 on the gpu...

So... what did I do...

1: Did I trashed the card making the screws too tight?
2: Did I trash the ram with the adhesive?
3: Is the weight of the copper heatsink is pulling too hard on the agp slot?

<font color=red><b>NF7-S/Mobile Barton 2600+
211x11.5 1.808v SLK900A
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Sapphire 9500np@9700np</font color=red><font color=black>
NF7-S/Barton 2500+
200x11.5 1.76v
512MB XMS PC2700
XFX Ti4200
May 12, 2004 6:00:38 PM

"micro-crushed it slighly"

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

<font color=red><b>NF7-S/Mobile Barton 2600+
211x11.5 1.808v SLK900A
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Sapphire 9500np@9700np</font color=red><font color=black>
NF7-S/Barton 2500+
200x11.5 1.76v
512MB XMS PC2700
XFX Ti4200
May 12, 2004 6:30:17 PM

It's a pickle I say...
AS isn't supposed to be conductive but they always say you should consider it as if it does and be careful where you spread it. What I mean is that odds are it is not shorting you out, plus, wouldn't that be a weird shot-out phenomenon?
Why not put back the original heatsink and pray for your set of god(s)? Why not underclock the card, hoping this is some sort of artifact? (Though seems unlikely). I used to have a similar problem of static colored objects on my screen - In my case they were blue, the card was brand new and it was GigaCube (someone here said Gag-and-Puke, couldn't say it better myself). I RMAd the card and that was it, not great news.

Abit IS7 @ 275 FSB, OCZ PC4200 RAM @ 550Mhz, P4 2.4 @ 3.3Ghz Vcore @ 1.625, Sapphire Radeon 9800P @ 410/780.
Thermalright SLK-947U, P3 HS @ NB.
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May 12, 2004 7:21:16 PM

Ya, but when I upgraded, I was supposed to sell off my Ti4200 and move the 9500 to my 2nd computer... besides... credit rating... trying to buy a house... the $200+ will be a hard sell to my 8-month pregnant wife... Ahhhhhhhh!

<font color=red><b>NF7-S/Mobile Barton 2600+
211x11.5 1.808v SLK900A
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Sapphire 9500np@9700np</font color=red><font color=black>
NF7-S/Barton 2500+
200x11.5 1.76v
512MB XMS PC2700
XFX Ti4200
May 12, 2004 11:51:37 PM

Ive had the same problem and its FIXABLE!
i was changing the heatsink and putting some ram sinks on to my TI4200 cuz i was bord one day. i did something bad, i slipped with the screwdriver and broke a little wire connection to one of the ram chips. i fired up the computer anyways and i got the green vertical lines. all i did was look allover the board verycarfuly and found the broken connection then i sodered it back to gether... trust me its hard but once uve got that done that sould fix your problem



Poor mans surround sound all the way!
May 13, 2004 4:46:25 AM

HAHAHHAhah..ahAHAHAHAhaha HAHa .. .. 1!..j
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Ha.

Responsibilities suck ass.

Me: are you saying I can't provide?
Me: cause I know I can provide.
Me: oh and I can provide money too;)
Rachel:) : why do we need money when we can just stay in our room and have sex all day?
May 13, 2004 5:42:58 PM

I might be a lucky SOB... I redid the heatsink, and I am left with a good feeling about the job... it just felt good... the sink seems to be in a better place, evenly on the core...

I may be lucky that I did not take off my shim... I felt the pressure to take it off last weekend when I did the job, especially from GW haunting me from posts made months ago... and I took a close look at it... I even had a razor in my hand with it up against the bottom of the shim... but I had clearance above the shim 360 degrees around the core, and I left it on... that might have saved me from crushing the core... too badly...

I still get green artifacts on occation, but they are tiny green dots, sometimes purple, and the only real change from when I had the longer green lines was spending more time cleaning up the adhesive between the two ramsinks... I know if I get a quality magnifying glass and take a closer look, I wiill be able to chip more off...

But I played several games for a few minutes each and ran 3DMark03 a few times with no serious problems and no crashes... when I run artifact tester 5, I see some of the green dots, but they are the kind that when you move a window over them they go away... although more are sometimes created...

I am going to got rid of 4.4 and go back to 3.7

I spent most of my time last night getting a system together for a friend... my real test will be playing FarCry for 3 or 4 hours straight with my video card at 360/306... but after 4 hours of FarCry, a lot of computers need a reboot...

<font color=red><b>NF7-S/Mobile Barton 2600+
211x11.5 1.808v SLK900A
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Sapphire 9500np@9700np</font color=red><font color=black>
NF7-S/Barton 2500+
200x11.5 1.76v
512MB XMS PC2700
XFX Ti4200
May 15, 2004 3:34:11 AM

I cleaned everything up, yet my card is still fu##ed up... but I am now a man... I took the damn shim off...

I even put my crystal orb back on just to see... the one that has been working fine for eight months... it made no difference, is is still the same... I have purple and green distortion in several places ... it is around the characters I am typing, icons or window edges...

But, hey, the shim is off...

<font color=red><b>NF7-S/Mobile Barton 2600+
211x11.5 1.808v SLK900A
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Sapphire 9500np@9700np</font color=red><font color=black>
NF7-S/Barton 2500+
200x11.5 1.76v
512MB XMS PC2700
XFX Ti4200
May 15, 2004 6:53:09 PM

I am back to thinking I crushed my core... hands down... I do not think it is the ram or AS at all...

But at this stage, it might be worth taking all my ramsinks off and cleaning everything up... If the card is toast, I am going to want to do that anyway...

Using small c-clamps on each side of the ramsink to hold it on might have crushed the ram itself... but I used just enough pressure to keep the ramsinks on...

at this stage, nothing can hurt...

<font color=red><b>NF7-S/Mobile Barton 2600+
211x11.5 1.808v SLK900A
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Sapphire 9500np@9700np</font color=red><font color=black>
NF7-S/Barton 2500+
200x11.5 1.76v
512MB XMS PC2700
XFX Ti4200
May 19, 2004 4:19:17 AM

I took off the two ramsinks I had most reciently replaced, (put it in the freezer for an hour in a sealed plastic bag), then popped off the two sinks, and really took my time and cleaned up everything around the two ramchips in question, and I have ran 3DMark03 for over an hour and am now playing FarCry with no visual distortion...

AS5 is conductive... knock on wood, but I may have saved my baby... I will use the tape that came with a Crystal Orb to put the two ramsinks back on...

My lesson to be learned here... do not attempt a mod when you are so freaked out about your wife nagging you that you rush instead of taking your time and being patient... also, do not attempt a serious mod on mother's day... that is just bad Karma...



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1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Sapphire 9500np-Toasted</font color=red><font color=black>
NF7-S/Barton 2500+
200x11.5 1.76v
512MB XMS PC2700
XFX Ti4200
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