Creative Geforce 4 Ti4600 (128MB)

[pHatmHat]

hi,

i was wondering how good this card is:
Creative Geforce 4 Ti4600 (128MB)
also could you give me a comparison with a ati card because i dont really get the nvidia range so translation into a similar ati card would be helpfull.

thanks

matt

 

[cleeve]

About as fast as a 9600 PRO, but without DirectX 9 capabilities.

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<b>Radeon <font color=red>9500 PRO</b></font color=red> <i>(hardmodded 9500, o/c 340/310)</i>
<b>AthlonXP <font color=red>~2750+</b></font color=red> <i>(2400+ @2.2Ghz)</i>
<b>3dMark03: <font color=red>4,055</b>

 

[Slava]

If you are on a tight budget it is a very good card. Speaking about DX9, you can't really achieve good playability with 9600 even though it does support DX9. In very rare cases though a game may require that you use DX9-compliant hardware or refuse to work altogether.

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[phial]

thats not true, the 9600pro was shown to be pretty decent in HL2

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[cleeve]

I don't think that's quite right there, Slava. With AA & AF off, a 9600 PRO will give very playable performance in Far Cry... Half Life 2 is a given as well. The 9600 PRO is about as low as I'd go with DX9 games, tho.

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<b>Radeon <font color=red>9500 PRO</b></font color=red> <i>(hardmodded 9500, o/c 340/310)</i>
<b>AthlonXP <font color=red>~2750+</b></font color=red> <i>(2400+ @2.2Ghz)</i>
<b>3dMark03: <font color=red>4,055</b>

 

[Slava]

9600pro was shown to be pretty decent in HL2

Possible. I cannot argue with that. But I think that Far Cry is the sign of things to come, really, and it is a fact that 9600 struggles there as is stated in the THG review of Far Cry (they reviewed it on a 9600XT machine with all settings at "Medium", no AA and no AF and still it stuttered ... more than once). ... and Far Cry is an FPS. Imagine trying to play a flight simulation where 40-45 fps and up is a must, lest you cannot really control your plane. DX9 support or not, you will have to play at 8x6 which is ugly, so who cares about DX9 support in this context?

<font color=green>"The creative powers of English morphology are pathetic compared to what we find in other languages." (Steven Pinker, The Language Instinct)</font color=green>

 

[lik]

Yeah, games are getting out of the range for the 9600Pro.. But still its a very good low-cost choice. Since it is the best comparing to its direct rivals. It will be able to play games like far cry but not as you would like it. Get a 9800Pro in newegg...they're really good priced...

P4-2800->FSB800, Asus P4P800, 512DDR-400, Radeon 9800 Pro - 128Mb

 

[cleeve]

Maybe Tom's had a problem, but a friend of mine has a 9600 PRO and seems to run Far Cry just fine. When all the settings are maxed out it stutters of course, but he gets good FPS when the detail is set to reasonable levels.

He has to set the environment detail to medium and make some other compromises, but he can still run it nicely with PS 2.0 enabled (The "Very High" lighting setting), and that's what DirectX 9 is all about in that game.

As far as flight sims go, they are still more CPU than GPU limited, IMHO. You're better off with an Athlon64 and a 9600 PRO than you are with an Athlon 2600+ and a 9800 PRO in that specific application, I reckon.

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<b>Radeon <font color=red>9500 PRO</b></font color=red> <i>(hardmodded 9500, o/c 340/310)</i>
<b>AthlonXP <font color=red>~2750+</b></font color=red> <i>(2400+ @2.2Ghz)</i>
<b>3dMark03: <font color=red>4,055</b>

 

[ytoledano]

I had a 9600Pro and I played FarCry no prob with it, with settings on Medium-High and besides the first 5 seconds on each level and really rare stutters where the scenery was screaming PS2.

FPS is probably more important to FPS than to Sims (duh! has the same initials!), UT is a good example where every frame counts.

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