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Anonymous
April 12, 2005 3:48:32 PM

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Hi all,

Im new to the video collecting scene for the most part. I grew up with
the classic 80's vids etc, but I've been into collecting pinball games
for several years now. Of course in buying and trading pinballs, I had
come across an original Ms Pac cocktail which I promptly bought in
decent working condition. Since then, I've built two more cocktail
vids with 9-game Jamma PCB boards, but that's the extent of my video
knowledge. I'd like to add a sit down driver game to my line up for
the kids that just dont "get" pinball. I've located at least two
prospects near by. One is a Cruis'n Exotica in a Cruis'n USA cabinet.
(the artwork and Marquis were already changed over. The other is an
original Cruis'n USA game, and is substantially less money, although it
looks to be in similar condition.

My questions are this.. What's a reasonable price for these units these
days? Am I right in assuming that the PCB's are interchangable between
games? (they are all Jamma games I'm told) Can I just burn new ROMS
and use the PCB in the game I buy? How available are each variant USA,
WORLD and EXOTICA, and at what cost?

Lastly, what version would you recommend, and why? Or should I be
looking at a SF Rush, or Daytona game instead.. I know there are other
versions out there, but I haven't played any of these titles yet at
all.. Again, this is just to supplement the current line up of pinballs
I already have. I doubt I'd ever buy a second, let alone a third or
4th game to "link" for head to head play, so that's not a concern. I'd
like to get the most bang for my buck, and yet, be able to have a
variety of games available in the same cabinet layout.

Thanks for any advice or help here.
Vinny
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 2:42:14 AM

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Forget the crusin... it's not a fun game in my opinion (the dynamics are
just awfull).

Rush is quite a fun driver. It's totally arcade in nature, but is still
very fun.

Daytona and Indy (and I hear Rally also, although I don't have any first
hand experience) are much more "simulator" ish then crusin or rush... that
is, they give the feel of actaully "racing" a car rather then playing a
glorified x-box game (not that the later is bad mind you), just different.
(NOTE: The sega games have quite a number of "cheats" in them as well...
playing tracks backwards, driving the pace car, etc..).

You can get a daytona twin for around $1500-$2k. An Indy 500 is less...
around $1200 - $1700 (it's very similar in terms of play, etc... Daytona was
first though so became more popular... Indy wasn't offered by the op's as
much as they already had lots of Daytona's and were quite content to simply
rake in the $$... consequently you can get Indy's at a comparative bargin).
You can get individual's, but they are a lot harder to come by (the Deluxe's
are expensive though).

You can get a single seat Crusin Usa for around $800 or so (not much of a
discount for the pair as there really isn't a true "twin" model). Exotica's
are a LOT more... they are the latest in the series and still earning money,
so if you want one be prepared to shell out for the privlidge.

Rush's are a bit more (around $1200 or so), although, like Exotica, the 2049
version being the latest commands a LARGE premium.

It all depends on what you are looking for... arcade action or simulation.

steve


<gaboozo99@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1113331712.069663.108210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Im new to the video collecting scene for the most part. I grew up with
> the classic 80's vids etc, but I've been into collecting pinball games
> for several years now. Of course in buying and trading pinballs, I had
> come across an original Ms Pac cocktail which I promptly bought in
> decent working condition. Since then, I've built two more cocktail
> vids with 9-game Jamma PCB boards, but that's the extent of my video
> knowledge. I'd like to add a sit down driver game to my line up for
> the kids that just dont "get" pinball. I've located at least two
> prospects near by. One is a Cruis'n Exotica in a Cruis'n USA cabinet.
> (the artwork and Marquis were already changed over. The other is an
> original Cruis'n USA game, and is substantially less money, although it
> looks to be in similar condition.
>
> My questions are this.. What's a reasonable price for these units these
> days? Am I right in assuming that the PCB's are interchangable between
> games? (they are all Jamma games I'm told) Can I just burn new ROMS
> and use the PCB in the game I buy? How available are each variant USA,
> WORLD and EXOTICA, and at what cost?
>
> Lastly, what version would you recommend, and why? Or should I be
> looking at a SF Rush, or Daytona game instead.. I know there are other
> versions out there, but I haven't played any of these titles yet at
> all.. Again, this is just to supplement the current line up of pinballs
> I already have. I doubt I'd ever buy a second, let alone a third or
> 4th game to "link" for head to head play, so that's not a concern. I'd
> like to get the most bang for my buck, and yet, be able to have a
> variety of games available in the same cabinet layout.
>
> Thanks for any advice or help here.
> Vinny
>
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 2:01:36 PM

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Thanks guys,

Looks like I've got some more research to do. I'd still be glad to
hear any more opinions on these games.

Steve, could you give me an idea of what kind of premium you'd think
I'd be paying up from the prices you said you've seen (800 for a
Cruis'n USA single, and 1200 for a SF Rush) for the Exotica and 2049
versions?

So far all Ive seen locally are the Cruis'n series, and the prices I've
seen are as low as 1200 for an original USA version, and up to 2300 for
the Exotica.

My tastes are more towards the arcade style games, so I will most
likely be looking for a Cruis'n or a SF Rush at this point.

I guess my next move is to ask if anyone has any of these for sale, or
does anyone have a lead on these in the NY metro area?

Thanks again for the help.
Vinny
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Anonymous
April 13, 2005 8:16:47 PM

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If you are still looking to buy, find a mall arcade near you that is
operated by "namco".
They have quite a few names.(cyberstation,alladins, pocket change,
time-out, etc.) I hear they are closing many locations and there may be
a few good deals.
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 8:56:54 PM

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I've owned a ded'd Rush the Rock single for almost 2 years and it is
still a challenge to play. It just never gets boring. Having a clutch
pedal really adds to gameplay too, although you can shift without it.
Actually, I just found another short-cut on track 7 the other day.
Anyone have a map of all of 'em ? :) 
On the down side, you can easily spend 2 hours playing before you know
it.
Anonymous
April 14, 2005 12:08:03 AM

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It's hard to really give a price on the Exotica/2049 increase. The problem
is that they are all "current" games and still making money. For an op to
give one up he would have to get a premium for it. I've seen exotica
upgrade kits alone go for over $1k... and 2049 twins easily go for $6K.

Really though... before you go an plunk down any money on a Cruis'n I'd take
a $20 and go find one somewhere and play it. Then play a Rush... There's a
reason Rush's cost more, and it has nothing to do with "newer"... it has
everything to do with "better".

There are a number of sites that post auction results that you can use to
see what current going rates are (although any particular auction can vary
greatly)... Prices depend a lot where you are in the country (let's face
it... sit-down drivers are big and costly to ship (I know.. I own a twin...
well... currently 2 twins... long story...)). However, depending where you
are it still may be beneficial to simply ship one then to pay a local
premium.

steve.

"Vinny Pin" <gaboozo99@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1113408585.848325.303720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks guys,
>
> Looks like I've got some more research to do. I'd still be glad to
> hear any more opinions on these games.
>
> Steve, could you give me an idea of what kind of premium you'd think
> I'd be paying up from the prices you said you've seen (800 for a
> Cruis'n USA single, and 1200 for a SF Rush) for the Exotica and 2049
> versions?
>
> So far all Ive seen locally are the Cruis'n series, and the prices I've
> seen are as low as 1200 for an original USA version, and up to 2300 for
> the Exotica.
>
> My tastes are more towards the arcade style games, so I will most
> likely be looking for a Cruis'n or a SF Rush at this point.
>
> I guess my next move is to ask if anyone has any of these for sale, or
> does anyone have a lead on these in the NY metro area?
>
> Thanks again for the help.
> Vinny
>
!