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May 13, 2004 11:04:24 PM

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Yup, that's right. Say goodbye to CityFido, per second billing and
cheap US roaming rates. Maybe your GSM phone too.
Anonymous
May 14, 2004 6:52:55 AM

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Lee wrote:
>
> Yup, that's right. Say goodbye to CityFido, per second billing and
> cheap US roaming rates. Maybe your GSM phone too.

At first, I was hoping tyis was a hoax. But it isn't.

One article I read about it did mention the different technologies, and a
Telus response that it has been capable of operating 2 separate networks and
it should be no different with Fido.

Telus says it wants to grow in Québec.

To me, it means Telus wants to remove its competition in its homeland. And
just like Clearnet disapeared, we should expect Microcell to disapear. Big
question is what Telus would do with all the GSM infrastructure. It could sell
it off, like Sprint had done with its GSM network in Washington DC. Telus
could then re-use bandwidth for its CDMA network.

I somehow doubt Telus would convert its own network to GSM. (that would be
great because it would leave Bell stranded in Canada with very little coverage
in alberta/BC).

The problem is that the banks (current shareholders) will love the idea of
getting real cash in exchange for virtual microcell shares. So our only hope
is that the government will block this transaction.
Anonymous
May 14, 2004 1:02:11 PM

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On Fri, 14 May 2004 02:52:55 GMT, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:

>To me, it means Telus wants to remove its competition in its homeland. And
>just like Clearnet disapeared, we should expect Microcell to disapear. Big
>question is what Telus would do with all the GSM infrastructure. It could sell
>it off, like Sprint had done with its GSM network in Washington DC. Telus
>could then re-use bandwidth for its CDMA network.

Yes, this is exactly what they want to do. Without Microcell to shake
things up, they can raise prices and reduce service (in other words,
what Telus does bast).

I plan on contacting the CRTC and putting forward a submission that
they should block any aquisition of Microcell by Telus as it would be
a disservice to Canadian Cellular communication customers.
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May 16, 2004 10:40:29 AM

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might be a good time to take advantage of offers from other carriers to
switch from fido... i very well might but this bid will probably take a few
months to work its way through

"Lee" <sysout@collegemail.com> wrote in message
news:78648e82.0405131804.1e18e238@posting.google.com...
> Yup, that's right. Say goodbye to CityFido, per second billing and
> cheap US roaming rates. Maybe your GSM phone too.
Anonymous
May 17, 2004 6:12:42 PM

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JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<52e24af1b0653cc9e883bf341ad75127@news.teranews.com>...
> One article I read about it did mention the different technologies, and a
> Telus response that it has been capable of operating 2 separate networks and
> it should be no different with Fido.
>
> Telus says it wants to grow in Québec.
>
> To me, it means Telus wants to remove its competition in its homeland. And
> just like Clearnet disapeared, we should expect Microcell to disapear. Big
> question is what Telus would do with all the GSM infrastructure. It could sell
> it off, like Sprint had done with its GSM network in Washington DC. Telus
> could then re-use bandwidth for its CDMA network.
>
> I somehow doubt Telus would convert its own network to GSM. (that would be
> great because it would leave Bell stranded in Canada with very little coverage
> in alberta/BC).

Is the Industry Canada spectrum cap still notched at 55 MHz? Or has
IC matched the FCC in sunseting the cap entirely?

If still the former, Telus Mobility would have little to gain
spectrally from the acquisition of Microcell's (Fido) nationwide PCS A
30 MHz license. Telus is already at or near the 55 MHz aggregated
CMRS (Cellular/PCS/SMR) cap across most of Canada. At best, Telus
would be able to retain perhaps a 5-10 MHz partition &/or
disaggregation from the Microcell PCS A license. The outstanding
20-25 MHz would have to be forfeited to IC for yet another PCS
re-auction. And it would seem doubtful that Telus could even continue
to operate Fido's GSM/GPRS 1900 network in such a paucity of spectrum.

Andrew
--
Andrew Shepherd
cinema@ku.edu
cinema@sprintpcs.com
http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/
Anonymous
May 20, 2004 7:24:52 PM

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In article <3m29a09sikv4f5vljkejtmbd28660o42o0@4ax.com>,
Who Me <nobody@thisurl.com> wrote:

> I plan on contacting the CRTC and putting forward a submission that
> they should block any aquisition of Microcell by Telus as it would be
> a disservice to Canadian Cellular communication customers.

What's the most effective way to protest it?

--
Steven Fisher; sdfisher@spamcop.net
"Morituri Nolumus Mori."
May 20, 2004 7:24:53 PM

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"Steven Fisher" <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:sdfisher-9BE08E.08251120052004@news.va.shawcable.net...
> In article <3m29a09sikv4f5vljkejtmbd28660o42o0@4ax.com>,
> Who Me <nobody@thisurl.com> wrote:
>
> > I plan on contacting the CRTC and putting forward a submission that
> > they should block any aquisition of Microcell by Telus as it would be
> > a disservice to Canadian Cellular communication customers.
>
> What's the most effective way to protest it?

I have already contacted the CRTC and they replied back that it was none of
their business. I would say it was a waste of time, but I think we should
bug the hell out of the CRTC anyway, as perhaps they will get so sick of it
they will tell the media how many letters they have gotten.



>
> --
> Steven Fisher; sdfisher@spamcop.net
> "Morituri Nolumus Mori."
Anonymous
May 21, 2004 6:14:15 AM

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Jonathan wrote:
> I have already contacted the CRTC and they replied back that it was none of
> their business. I would say it was a waste of time, but I think we should
> bug the hell out of the CRTC anyway, as perhaps they will get so sick of it
> they will tell the media how many letters they have gotten.

The CRTC is absolutely useless when it comes to complaints from the public.

The issue, which should be brought to the attention of the Minister in charge
fo the CRTC is that with mobile phone companies starting to compete against
landline service, then the CRTC should definitely oversea mobile phone
companies since the CRTC has a heavy hand in landline service.

(This goes on at the same time as IP telephony is begging for government
decision on whether they are phone companies or just glorified web sites.)
(remember that to politicians, the internet is just web and email).
!