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More info?)
Famine,
Not sure which of the entries triggers msimn.exe process, but there are few
malware processes in the list.
http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/TBPS/
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=453077909
Try Trend Micro's Sysclean package (free), it's capable of eliminating
keyloggers, trojans etc. Full instructions at:
Generic Trojan / Adware Infestation Removal Procedure:
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Trend Micro Sysclean package
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=10820
The Parasite Fight - Quick Fix Protocol:
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.php
--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org
"Famine" <Famine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68724A9B-85B8-438F-B52B-BBF8AF70DEB6@microsoft.com...
> 28/04/2005 14:09:40
>
> -- Registry --
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>
> No Items Found
>
> -- Registry --
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>
> Apoint C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
> ATIModeChange Ati2mdxx.exe
> ATIPTA C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI
> Control
> Panel\atiptaxx.exe
> HKSERV.EXE C:\Program Files\Sony\HotKey
> Utility\HKserv.exe
> SonyPowerCfg C:\Program Files\sony\vaio power
> management\SPMgr.exe
> VAIO Update 2 "C:\Program Files\sony\vaio update
> 2\VAIOUpdt.exe" /Stationary
> Hcontrol C:\WINDOWS\ATK0100\Hcontrol.exe
> ISBMgr.exe C:\Program Files\Sony\ISB Utility\ISBMgr.exe
> Mouse Suite 98 Daemon ICO.EXE
> ezShieldProtector for Px C:\WINDOWS\System32\ezSP_Px.exe
> BluetoothAuthenticationAgent rundll32.exe
> irprops.cpl,,BluetoothAuthenticationAgent
> Switcher.exe C:\Program Files\Sony\Wireless Switch
> Setting
> Utility\Switcher.exe
> Drag'n Drop CD+DVD C:\Program Files\drag'n drop
> cd+dvd\BinFiles\DragDrop.exe /StartUp
> Logitech Utility Logi_MwX.Exe
> TkBellExe "C:\Program Files\Common
> Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
> WildTangent CDA RUNDLL32.exe "C:\Program
> Files\WildTangent\Apps\CDA\cdaEngine0400.dll",cdaEngineMain
> QuickTime Task "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe"
> -atboottime
> iTunesHelper C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
> OETool "C:\Program Files\Toolbar\IExploreSkins.exe"
> toolbar.dll,SetHook
> TBPS C:\PROGRA~1\Toolbar\TBPS.exe
> Zone Labs Client C:\Program Files\Zone
> Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
>
> -- Registry --
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>
> No Items Found
>
> -- Registry --
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>
> Window Washer C:\Program Files\Webroot\Washer\wwDisp.exe
> MsnMsgr "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe"
> /background
>
> -- Registry --
> HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>
> No Items Found
>
> -- Start Menu - Current User --
> BlueSpace NE.lnk
> Microsoft Outlook.lnk
>
> -- Start Menu - All Users --
> Acrobat Assistant.lnk
> Four J's Windows Front End Server ( 3.20.1a ).lnk
> Microsoft Find Fast.lnk
> Office Startup.lnk
> WinZip Quick Pick.lnk
>
> -- Disabled Items --
> No Items Found
>
> -- Registry - Shell Value - HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon --
> Explorer.exe
>
> -- Running Processes --
> System Idle Process
> System
> smss.exe \SystemRoot\System32\smss.exe
> csrss.exe
> winlogon.exe winlogon.exe
> services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
> lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
> ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
> svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k DcomLaunch
> svchost.exe
> svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
> svchost.exe
> svchost.exe
> ati2evxx.exe Ati2evxx.exe -Client
> explorer.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
> spoolsv.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
> BRSS01A.EXE brss01a.exe
> Apoint.exe "C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe"
> atiptaxx.exe "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control
> Panel\atiptaxx.exe"
> HKServ.exe "C:\Program Files\Sony\HotKey Utility\HKserv.exe"
> SPMgr.exe "C:\Program Files\sony\vaio power
> management\SPMgr.exe"
> Hcontrol.exe "C:\WINDOWS\ATK0100\Hcontrol.exe"
> ISBMgr.exe "C:\Program Files\Sony\ISB Utility\ISBMgr.exe"
> ico.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ICO.EXE"
> ezSP_Px.exe "C:\WINDOWS\System32\ezSP_Px.exe"
> rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe"
> irprops.cpl,,BluetoothAuthenticationAgent
> Switcher.exe "C:\Program Files\Sony\Wireless Switch Setting
> Utility\Switcher.exe"
> DragDrop.exe "C:\Program Files\drag'n drop
> cd+dvd\BinFiles\DragDrop.exe" /StartUp
> Logi_MwX.Exe "C:\WINDOWS\Logi_MwX.Exe"
> realsched.exe "C:\Program Files\Common
> Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
> rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.exe" "C:\Program
> Files\WildTangent\Apps\CDA\cdaEngine0400.dll",cdaEngineMain
> qttask.exe "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
> iTunesHelper.exe "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
> TBPS.exe "C:\PROGRA~1\Toolbar\TBPS.exe"
> zlclient.exe "C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe"
> wwDisp.exe "C:\Program Files\Webroot\Washer\wwDisp.exe"
> msnmsgr.exe "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe"
> /background
> acrotray.exe "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> 6.0\Distillr\acrotray.exe"
> msimn.exe "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe"
> wtk.exe "C:\Program Files\FourJs\cliwtk\bin\wtk.exe" -f
> C:\PROGRA~1\FourJs\cliwtk\FGL2C\doserv1.tcl
> FINDFAST.EXE "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office\FINDFAST.EXE"
> OSA.EXE "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA.EXE" -b
> WZQKPICK.EXE "C:\Program Files\WinZip\WZQKPICK.EXE"
> BlueSpaceNE.exe "C:\Program Files\sony\BlueSpace\BlueSpaceNE.exe"
> /hide
> OUTLOOK.EXE "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OUTLOOK.EXE"
> ApntEx.exe "Apntex.exe"
> HKWnd.exe "C:\Program Files\Sony\HotKey Utility\HKWnd.exe"
> PIB.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Toolbar\PIB.exe
> Avsynmgr.exe "C:\Program Files\Network
> Associates\VirusScan\Avsynmgr.exe"
> svchost.exe
> radio.exe c:\PROGRA~1\Toolbar\radio.exe -Embedding
> MAPISP32.EXE MAPISP32.EXE -000065800009BB1
> WSG.exe c:\PROGRA~1\Toolbar\WSG.exe -Embedding
> TBPSSvc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Toolbar\TBPSSvc.exe
> VSStat.exe "C:\Program Files\Network
> Associates\VirusScan\VsStat.exe"
> vshwin32.exe "C:\Program Files\Network
> Associates\VirusScan\Vshwin32.exe"
> vsmon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe -service
> Avconsol.exe "C:\Program Files\Network
> Associates\VirusScan\Avconsol.exe"
> iPodService.exe "C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe"
> Mcshield.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Network
> Associates\McShield\Mcshield.exe"
> ATKOSD.exe ATKOSD.exe
> alg.exe
> wisptis.exe "C:\WINDOWS\System32\wisptis.exe" -Embedding
> csmenu.exe "C:\csclient\csmenu.exe"
> QuarkXPress Passport"C:\Program Files\QuarkXPress Passport\QuarkXPress
> Passport.exe"
> iexplore.exe "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
> -Embedding
> WINZIP32.EXE "C:\PROGRA~1\WINZIP\winzip32.exe" "C:\Documents and
> Settings\TonyS\Desktop\Compaq Drivers\StartupTracker3.zip"
> StartupTracker3.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\TonyS\Local
> Settings\Temp\StartupTracker3.exe"
> notepad.exe C:\WINDOWS\notepad.exe C:\Documents and
> Settings\TonyS\My Documents\startuplog.txt
> wmiprvse.exe
>
> -- Running Services --
>
> Name: ALG
> Description: Provides support for 3rd party protocol plug-ins for Internet
> Connection Sharing and the Windows Firewall.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
>
> Name: Ati HotKey Poller
> Description:
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
>
> Name: AudioSrv
> Description: Manages audio devices for Windows-based programs. If this
> service is stopped, audio devices and effects will not function properly.
> If
> this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will
> fail
> to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: AvSynMgr
> Description: McAfee AVSync Manager
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: "C:\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan\Avsynmgr.exe"
>
> Name: Browser
> Description: Maintains an updated list of computers on the network and
> supplies this list to computers designated as browsers. If this service is
> stopped, this list will not be updated or maintained. If this service is
> disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: BthServ
> Description:
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k bthsvcs
>
> Name: CryptSvc
> Description: Provides three management services: Catalog Database Service,
> which confirms the signatures of Windows files; Protected Root Service,
> which
> adds and removes Trusted Root Certification Authority certificates from
> this
> computer; and Key Service, which helps enroll this computer for
> certificates.
> If this service is stopped, these management services will not function
> properly. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend
> on
> it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: DcomLaunch
> Description: Provides launch functionality for DCOM services.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k DcomLaunch
>
> Name: Dhcp
> Description: Manages network configuration by registering and updating IP
> addresses and DNS names.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: dmserver
> Description: Detects and monitors new hard disk drives and sends disk
> volume
> information to Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service for
> configuration.
> If this service is stopped, dynamic disk status and configuration
> information
> may become out of date. If this service is disabled, any services that
> explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: Dnscache
> Description: Resolves and caches Domain Name System (DNS) names for this
> computer. If this service is stopped, this computer will not be able to
> resolve DNS names and locate Active Directory domain controllers. If this
> service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail
> to
> start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService
>
> Name: ERSvc
> Description: Allows error reporting for services and applictions running
> in
> non-standard environments.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: Eventlog
> Description: Enables event log messages issued by Windows-based programs
> and
> components to be viewed in Event Viewer. This service cannot be stopped.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
>
> Name: EventSystem
> Description: Supports System Event Notification Service (SENS), which
> provides automatic distribution of events to subscribing Component Object
> Model (COM) components. If the service is stopped, SENS will close and
> will
> not be able to provide logon and logoff notifications. If this service is
> disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: FastUserSwitchingCompatibility
> Description: Provides management for applications that require assistance
> in
> a multiple user environment.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: helpsvc
> Description: Enables Help and Support Center to run on this computer. If
> this service is stopped, Help and Support Center will be unavailable. If
> this
> service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail
> to
> start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: iPodService
> Description: iPod hardware management services
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
>
> Name: lanmanserver
> Description: Supports file, print, and named-pipe sharing over the network
> for this computer. If this service is stopped, these functions will be
> unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly
> depend
> on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: lanmanworkstation
> Description: Creates and maintains client network connections to remote
> servers. If this service is stopped, these connections will be
> unavailable.
> If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it
> will
> fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: LmHosts
> Description: Enables support for NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) service and
> NetBIOS name resolution.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
>
> Name: McShield
> Description: McAfee On Access Scanner
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Network
> Associates\McShield\Mcshield.exe"
>
> Name: Netman
> Description: Manages objects in the Network and Dial-Up Connections
> folder,
> in which you can view both local area network and remote connections.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: Nla
> Description: Collects and stores network configuration and location
> information, and notifies applications when this information changes.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: PlugPlay
> Description: Enables a computer to recognize and adapt to hardware changes
> with little or no user input. Stopping or disabling this service will
> result
> in system instability.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
>
> Name: PolicyAgent
> Description: Manages IP security policy and starts the ISAKMP/Oakley (IKE)
> and the IP security driver.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\lsass.exe
>
> Name: ProtectedStorage
> Description: Provides protected storage for sensitive data, such as
> private
> keys, to prevent access by unauthorized services, processes, or users.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
>
> Name: RasMan
> Description: Creates a network connection.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: RemoteRegistry
> Description: Enables remote users to modify registry settings on this
> computer. If this service is stopped, the registry can be modified only by
> users on this computer. If this service is disabled, any services that
> explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
>
> Name: RpcSs
> Description: Provides the endpoint mapper and other miscellaneous RPC
> services.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k rpcss
>
> Name: SamSs
> Description: Stores security information for local user accounts.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
>
> Name: Schedule
> Description: Enables a user to configure and schedule automated tasks on
> this computer. If this service is stopped, these tasks will not be run at
> their scheduled times. If this service is disabled, any services that
> explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: seclogon
> Description: Enables starting processes under alternate credentials. If
> this
> service is stopped, this type of logon access will be unavailable. If this
> service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail
> to
> start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: SENS
> Description: Tracks system events such as Windows logon, network, and
> power
> events. Notifies COM+ Event System subscribers of these events.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: SharedAccess
> Description: Provides network address translation, addressing, name
> resolution and/or intrusion prevention services for a home or small office
> network.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: ShellHWDetection
> Description:
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: Spooler
> Description: Loads files to memory for later printing.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
>
> Name: srservice
> Description: Performs system restore functions. To stop service, turn off
> System Restore from the System Restore tab in My Computer->Properties
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: SSDPSRV
> Description: Enables discovery of UPnP devices on your home network.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
>
> Name: TapiSrv
> Description: Provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that
> control
> telephony devices and IP based voice connections on the local computer
> and,
> through the LAN, on servers that are also running the service.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: TBPSSvc
> Description: This service supports and maintains WebSeach Toolbar
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\PROGRA~1\Toolbar\TBPSSvc.exe
>
> Name: TermService
> Description: Allows multiple users to be connected interactively to a
> machine as well as the display of desktops and applications to remote
> computers. The underpinning of Remote Desktop (including RD for
> Administrators), Fast User Switching, Remote Assistance, and Terminal
> Server.
> Startup Mode: Manual
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost -k DComLaunch
>
> Name: Themes
> Description: Provides user experience theme management.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: TrkWks
> Description: Maintains links between NTFS files within a computer or
> across
> computers in a network domain.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: vsmon
> Description: Monitors internet traffic and generates alerts for disallowed
> access.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe -service
>
> Name: W32Time
> Description: Maintains date and time synchronization on all clients and
> servers in the network. If this service is stopped, date and time
> synchronization will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any
> services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
>
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: WebClient
> Description: Enables Windows-based programs to create, access, and modify
> Internet-based files. If this service is stopped, these functions will not
> be
> available. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly
> depend
> on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
>
> Name: winmgmt
> Description: Provides a common interface and object model to access
> management information about operating system, devices, applications and
> services. If this service is stopped, most Windows-based software will not
> function properly. If this service is disabled, any services that
> explicitly
> depend on it will fail to start.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: wscsvc
> Description: Monitors system security settings and configurations.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: wuauserv
> Description: Enables the download and installation of critical Windows
> updates. If the service is disabled, the operating system can be manually
> updated at the Windows Update Web site.
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
> Name: WZCSVC
> Description: Provides automatic configuration for the 802.11 adapters
> Startup Mode: Auto
> Run from: C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
>
>
> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> Try this:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_starttrack.htm
>> Post the log file here, as that may reveal something.
>>
>> --
>> Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP Shell/User
>>
http://windowsxp.mvps.org
>>
>>
>> "Famine" <Famine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5B569632-7416-497C-BAA5-6FA5B4C07055@microsoft.com...
>> > msimn.exe is not in the startup, but Microsoft outlook is when this is
>> > unchecked at bootup the system tells me the config has been changed,
>> > however
>> > outlook express continues to load anyway.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Famine,
>> >>
>> >> Type MSCONFIG in Start, Run dialog. Click the Startup tab, and then
>> >> uncheck
>> >> msimn.exe entry (if present)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
>> >> Windows XP Shell/User
>> >>
http://windowsxp.mvps.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Famine" <Famine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3EE06F07-22D8-46E4-AE33-A4EF0CD40E4C@microsoft.com...
>> >> > ever since installing SP2 every time I boot up outlook express
>> >> > starts
>> >> > up
>> >> > this
>> >> > is usually unwanted as it extends boot time, but also unless I stop
>> >> > it
>> >> > it
>> >> > downloads before I can startt my spamfilteter. anyone any ideas of
>> >> > stopping
>> >> > it starting.
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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