Games for G-08 monitor?

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Can anyone let me know of any XY games that can make use of the G-08
moniotr besides Star Trek, Eliminator, Tac Scan, Zektor, & Space Fury?

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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Any color xy game can use it.
but you have to switch around a couple wires.look at the pinout.
you also need a GO8 transformer to run it.


Troy,


<Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone let me know of any XY games that can make use of the G-08
> moniotr besides Star Trek, Eliminator, Tac Scan, Zektor, & Space Fury?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.
>

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The only easy way around the soundboard is emulation via Zektor zvg and
pc.

One of those board should do most (if not all) of the color vector
games.

-isaac

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I thought that was for the video?
you cant get all the sounds on a pc.
zektor came with a special sound board you cant emulate.
unlike other sega xy games.


Troy,



Vizilla <izwalker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The only easy way around the soundboard is emulation via Zektor zvg and
> pc.
>
> One of those board should do most (if not all) of the color vector
> games.
>
> -isaac
>

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There's at least one other person who would love to have a multi sound board
for the Sega vectors...ME!.

Seriously, there would be interest I am sure (I know of a couple of other
people who would probably be interested, too), but as I am not privy to the
cost of making the board, I cannot speak as to whether or not there would be
enough interest to justify the cost.

I can say that if Clay or anyone ever did do it, I would be first in line to
buy it!

Would the cost be reduced significantly if Zektor itself was not included,
but Space Fury and Eliminator would be? I'd still get it, but Zektor is my
favorite of the Sega vectors...

I, too, can dream...

Jon

"Troy" <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote in message
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> not going to happen, it takes a special chip to run zektor sound board.
> way to expensive to duplicate and not enough people out there to buy it.
>

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the talking bosses between rounds, and the zektor girl in attact mode talks,
you need a special chip to run them.

only the other sounds can be played.


Troy,


Vizilla <izwalker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ohhh. news to me. are you talking about sound samples? or just the main
> sound? i know its partly done. Im suprised no one has finished that
> part in mame yet becuase of the lack of availability of this sound
> board.
>
> http://caesar.logiqx.com/html/emus [...] ktor.shtml
>
> looks like its there with sound samples. i have to go find it now and
> take a peek.
>
> :$
>

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"Troy" <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote in message
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> not going to happen, it takes a special chip to run zektor sound board.
> way to expensive to duplicate and not enough people out there to buy it.

Zektor isn't really a problem. It was just a couple different components on
an existing board.

My solution still stands as just using the original speech board with bank
switched memory and putting a daughtercard on that with a 6-channel sample
player and a microcontroller to play the other sounds.

Since I still have bare PCB's left over from the first batch of multigame
boards I ran back in 1997-98 it never seems to make it very high up on my
todo list. ;-) (I do have a boatload of sample playback chips hoarded to
make them though.)

The only think a little tricky is the loop points on some of the "long"
sounds. Keeping the U.S.B. in the stack (and just using samples for the
more "analog" sound boards) is another option.

-Clay

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Hey Clay,
finish up the Asteroids/Lunar Lander/Asteroids Deluxe Multigame kit.
I'm looking forward to that one.


Troy,



Clay Cowgill <c.cowgill@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Troy" <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote in message
> news:Wo29e.56059$lz2.35458@fed1read07...
> > not going to happen, it takes a special chip to run zektor sound board.
> > way to expensive to duplicate and not enough people out there to buy it.
>
> Zektor isn't really a problem. It was just a couple different components
on
> an existing board.
>
> My solution still stands as just using the original speech board with bank
> switched memory and putting a daughtercard on that with a 6-channel sample
> player and a microcontroller to play the other sounds.
>
> Since I still have bare PCB's left over from the first batch of multigame
> boards I ran back in 1997-98 it never seems to make it very high up on my
> todo list. ;-) (I do have a boatload of sample playback chips hoarded to
> make them though.)
>
> The only think a little tricky is the loop points on some of the "long"
> sounds. Keeping the U.S.B. in the stack (and just using samples for the
> more "analog" sound boards) is another option.
>
> -Clay
>
>

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the problem is that zektor has the chip populated on board and Eliminator
does not.
you cant find the special sound chip.


Troy,


Christopher X. Candreva <chris@westnet.com> wrote in message
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> Clay Cowgill <c.cowgill@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> : My solution still stands as just using the original speech board with
bank
> : switched memory and putting a daughtercard on that with a 6-channel
sample
> : player and a microcontroller to play the other sounds.
>
> Well the bank-switch speach mod is already out there. Here's another idea
> for sound:
>
> Zektor/Eliminator take the same sound boards. Can the cage run with two
> sound boards in it, even assuming some kind of switching from the "which
> game is running" header on the multigame ?
>
> If so -- and there are enough spare Eliminator sound boards for the number
> of multigames you sold, what would it take to burn a new rom, with Space
> Fury sounds mapped to one of the other boards ?
>
> --
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first off, zektor uses two sounds board.
not one like eliminator.
and the zektor chip I'm referring to is special speech board decoder chip.
those are not available. and they are not on an eliminator sound board.
so I would say they are next to impossible to find.
only if you have the original zektor board set. are you going to run zektor
with full sound.

the meatball sound board from an eliminator is interchangeable, but it does
not have the chip. so basically it's only going to work with eliminator.
and yes, it is not populated on eliminator, but it is on zektor with the
decoder chip.


Troy,



Christopher X. Candreva <chris@westnet.com> wrote in message
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> Troy <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote:
> : the problem is that zektor has the chip populated on board and
Eliminator
> : does not.
> : you cant find the special sound chip.
>
> Do you mean the AT-whatever ? According to the G-08 FAQ, Zektor and
> Eliminator boards are interchangeable, the AY-whatever isn't usually
> populated and isn't used at all. Those are not impossible to find however.
>
>
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look at your zektor manual, location x30 is a speech board decoder chip.
it runs on the sound board. it's required to get all of the speech.
that's what I'm talking about.
your telling me you have this?
you are getting all of the speech sounds with out it?
it's the bosses talking between rounds and the zektor girl in attract mode.

Troy,

>
> Then it's not what we're talking about. We are only talking about the
sound
> effects from the sound board, not speech.
>

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Christopher X. Candreva <chris@westnet.com> wrote:

: Yup. I'm getting all of the Zektor sounds with a Star Trek Universal sound
: board, no Meatball/Eliminator sound card at all.

Just realized I mistyped. I am getting all Zektor SPEECH with a modded Star
Trek speech board and unmodified ST Universal sound board.


Clay -- if you are still reading this, when you say:

> Zektor isn't really a problem. It was just a couple different components
> on an existing board.

Do you mean the Zektor board is really a slightly-modded Eliminator, or that
the Zektor/Eliminator can be made from a Universal or Space Fury board with
a few additions ?

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well, it exist, because it's used on my zektor board set.
so why is it on my board set, if it's not used?
and in the manual it called a speech board decoder chip.

Troy,


Christopher X. Candreva <chris@westnet.com> wrote in message
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> Troy <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote:
> : look at your zektor manual, location x30 is a speech board decoder chip.
>
> It's an AY-3-8912 sound generator that has nothing to do with speech.
> In any case, it's not used in any Sega XY game.
>
> You might want to read Mark Jenison's Sega X-Y FAQ - it explains all of
this
> http://coinop.org/kb_dl.aspx/KB/fa [...] _v1.6.html
>
> : your telling me you have this?
>
> Nope.
>
> : you are getting all of the speech sounds with out it?
>
> Yup. I'm getting all of the Zektor sounds with a Star Trek Universal sound
board,
> no Meatball/Eliminator sound card at all.
>
> : it's the bosses talking between rounds and the zektor girl in attract
mode.
>
> Yup. Got it. No game sounds of course. THAT's why we are talking about
being able
> to use multiple sound cards.
>
>
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Troy <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote:
: well, it exist, because it's used on my zektor board set.
: so why is it on my board set, if it's not used?

Most likely because they thought they would use it, but never did. That chip
is also on the Eliminator sound card schematics incidently, but not on the
board.

All I know is I have Zektor speech working without even a Zektor sound board, so I
obviously don't have that chip on there.

: and in the manual it called a speech board decoder chip.

Manuals have been known to be wrong. Sega manuals especially. I have a set
of original Star Trek manuals, and a previous owner has written across the
cover:

DISREGARD THIS MANUAL
NOT APPROVED BY STAR FLEET COMMAND

Wire colors wrong in places.
Bag is wrong in places.

(I have no idea what 'Bag' referse to. His handwritting is bad, this is the
best we can make it out.)



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Troy <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote:

: but your not getting all of the sounds.

RIGHT -- which is why a multi-sound board solution is needed. THAT'S what
we are talking about.


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"Troy" <troyl@lvcm.com> wrote in message
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> well, it exist, because it's used on my zektor board set.
> so why is it on my board set, if it's not used?
> and in the manual it called a speech board decoder chip.

Who knows what they were up to back then... Could have been shortages or
they just wanted to save the $$$ on the chip. It's also quite possible that
Zektor was meant to use up some leftover components from Eliminator and they
simply couldn't get their hands on enough 8912's at the time.

(The were all kinds of wild component shortages back then since there was a
sudden rush of video game stuff-- remember that the Vectrex entered
production at about the same time and used the 8912, so procurement could
have been tricky if Gremlin/Sega didn't have orders on the books.)

The probably were also transitioning to the USB about then, so they might
not have wanted to commit to any stock for 'old' technology... Who knows...

-Clay