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Dark][Tweaker DX9.0C download and guide

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a b U Graphics card
June 18, 2004 9:21:00 PM

Well DT's got a better guide than their original Benchies posted earlier (originally they only had the results, no guidance on installing). No major changes on the X800pro, so not the FX or GF6800 series we were hoping to see.

You can also download the 'unofficial' DX9.0C there too.

Translated link;

<A HREF="http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF...|en&u=http://www.dark-tweaker.com/DirectX-9.0c-Anleitung.htm&..." target="_new">http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF...|en&u=http://www.dark-tweaker.com/DirectX-9.0c-Anleitung.htm&...;/A>

Original;

<A HREF="http://www.dark-tweaker.com/DirectX-9.0c-Anleitung.htm" target="_new">http://www.dark-tweaker.com/DirectX-9.0c-Anleitung.htm&...;/A>


- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK :evil: 
June 18, 2004 9:28:15 PM

be very very careful, if you have illegal versions of windows xp it might not install or even if you have a legal version with certain serial numbers too it might not install.

And people have been reporting windows being locked out becuase of this aswell, if the install takes place some people couldn't roll back!

Is it me or both links are in german :p 
June 18, 2004 9:49:52 PM

here is the reason I was mentioning, which was so hostilly flamed upon and people thought it was false, Neo Seeker's Interview with David Kirk, chief engineer at Nvidia

Neoseeker: Branching and looping are new introductions into PS3. One feature of pretty much every programming language is the ability to branch and loop. It was mentioned that the Nalu demo uses a single shader for the both the skin and scales. If you were to have had to write Nalu in PS2 what would have been the challenges that the developer would have had to overcome in terms of language limitations (we'll ignore the instruction limit for now).

David Kirk: Without branching and looping in complex shaders, each branch path or loop pass has to be rendered as a separate pass, with alpha test to suppress the pixels that shouldn't be rendered in that pass. Consequently, without Shader Model 3.0, Nalu would have been 1/2 or 1/4 the speed, as well as lower quality.

Neoseeker: In this next generation that NVIDIA will be the only company supporting PS3. One of the goals for common APIs like DX and OpenGL are to abstract hardware details from developers. Obviously there is a bit of a divergence in terms of hardware capability. With pressure to finish games relatively on time especially for smaller development houses, what is your view on support for architecture unique features like PS3 instead of just PS2 support? Are developers going to make the effort to support PS3 over PS2 as it will arguably limit their market.

David Kirk: Anything that can be programmed in PS 2.0 just runs in PS 3.0 with no changes. It just runs faster, and looks better. Anything that can be programmed in PS 3.0 can be converted into multipass versions for PS 2.0. It just runs more slowly and looks less good. Developers always support the high end and most advanced API and effects, because it's their marquee demo. They want their game to look as cool as possible. Dumbing down the shaders to run on PS 2.0 can be accomplished in the same way as lower end, older generation hardware has always been supported. The developers creates a simplified path for older hardware. Developers do that now, to support DX8 hardware, and this is even easier. The best analogy is back to when multitexture was introduced. You could make the same effects with more passes - it was just slower. It was also easy for developers to create both paths.

Neoseeker: How difficult is it to port PS2 shaders to PS3?

Dead easy. They just run, without modification :) 



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a b U Graphics card
June 18, 2004 9:52:30 PM

I'm not worried about windows locking me out/up, I'm quite adept at the wipe and reinstall dance simply for cleanliness.

As it doesn't offer much in the way of performance, I'm not sure if it's worth installing yet though.

As for the links, I don't know why the translation link is in german, it's in english when I copied it, but clicking on it does send you to the german version. Weird.

Either way you can click on the british flag and it will translate the link for you. Maybe it's google's tool that's f'in up.

<A HREF="http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?..." target="_new">Here's the BABEL translated link.</A>

Double checked before posting, it works.


- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK :evil: 
June 18, 2004 9:58:53 PM

well just wanted to warn people if things start goin crazy hehe. Don't need irrate people needing windows techsupport here :) . Thx for the updated link too.
a b U Graphics card
June 18, 2004 10:11:08 PM

I'm not going back there, this still isn't evidence of a difference, it's theoretical that it CAN run faster and MAY run faster.

I'm not going to take David Kirk's word for it, he was the one telling us why the FX was faster/better. I prefer 3rd party reputable testers.

I'll wait for real world tests. I don't say it won't, nor did I ever say that, I'm just saying, SHOW ME! That's it, I aks and that's all I will say about it.

I would've prefered these tests by Dark][Tweaker would've been with even an FX, to show some of what people have been promising.


- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK :evil: 
June 18, 2004 10:22:00 PM

That would be nice, should be soon though. At least now the beta has been released to benchmarks don't need to worry bout getting in trouble.
June 19, 2004 3:07:37 AM

I'll wait for the offical release from Micro$.
June 19, 2004 3:11:57 AM

WOW was that weird. I clicked on Babel. It gave me some transmission error. Plus another link. I double clicked it gave me German. So I closed out. Reclicked babel now I have English. Strange. :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
June 19, 2004 4:16:52 AM

Obviously you have a Virus, it's time to throw out your computer, and get a new one! :evil: 


- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK :evil: 
June 19, 2004 8:05:11 PM

Now there both in German. No viruses. Don't need new puter. I need new vid card.
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