Upgrading to LCD monitor - help please

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I have a 17" monitor (one of the big fat ones that look like a tv
sitting on the desk) and I would like to upgrade to an LCD monitor,
19".
My questions - what are the most important considerations if I also
want to be able to watch movies and TV using this monitor (my pc has a
tv card fitted). Will an LCD monitor show DVDs, movies and TV as well
as the 17" old one did (when I say old, its like a year old)
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More about upgrading monitor please
  1. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

    Great question Nikki, I'm looking to upgrade my system and thinking of going
    towards a LCD monitor to save space. For I have found so far in my hunt is
    you need to make sure you go towards the higher end of the LCD monitor group
    to get the best possible picture quality such as Dells "UltraSharp" series
    or equal quality monitor from the better company's such as Viewsonic which
    seems to always get good reviews from they're users. Although another
    question I would like to pose is picture size, seems to me a 17" flat panel
    LCD looks to be the same size picture wise to an 19" CRT (regular monitor we
    have now). Is this true or just a optical illusion on my part??


    <Nikki> wrote in message news:4218bf81.9623046@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
    >I have a 17" monitor (one of the big fat ones that look like a tv
    > sitting on the desk) and I would like to upgrade to an LCD monitor,
    > 19".
    > My questions - what are the most important considerations if I also
    > want to be able to watch movies and TV using this monitor (my pc has a
    > tv card fitted). Will an LCD monitor show DVDs, movies and TV as well
    > as the 17" old one did (when I say old, its like a year old)
    >
  2. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

    Pinger wrote:
    > Great question Nikki, I'm looking to upgrade my system and thinking of going
    > towards a LCD monitor to save space. For I have found so far in my hunt is
    > you need to make sure you go towards the higher end of the LCD monitor group
    > to get the best possible picture quality such as Dells "UltraSharp" series
    > or equal quality monitor from the better company's such as Viewsonic which
    > seems to always get good reviews from they're users. Although another
    > question I would like to pose is picture size, seems to me a 17" flat panel
    > LCD looks to be the same size picture wise to an 19" CRT (regular monitor we
    > have now). Is this true or just a optical illusion on my part??
    >
    >
    > <Nikki> wrote in message news:4218bf81.9623046@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
    >
    >>I have a 17" monitor (one of the big fat ones that look like a tv
    >>sitting on the desk) and I would like to upgrade to an LCD monitor,
    >>19".
    >>My questions - what are the most important considerations if I also
    >>want to be able to watch movies and TV using this monitor (my pc has a
    >>tv card fitted). Will an LCD monitor show DVDs, movies and TV as well
    >>as the 17" old one did (when I say old, its like a year old)
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    One thing to keep in mind is that a 19" CRT (old style) monitor gives
    you about 17.8 inches of screen space, but a 19" LCD monitor gives you
    exactly 19 inches of screen space.

    So, technically in terms of size, 17" LCD's usually are closest to 19"
    CRT's.

    While I own both a Dell Ultrasharp (connected via DVI) and a 17" analog
    flat panel, I don't see much difference between the two. I would figure
    out what your budget is and then find a monitor which fits into your budget.
  3. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

    I've been using my new Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17" LCD monitor about a week
    now via DVI and love it. It's definitely very bright and sharp. My 3 year
    old 17" Dell Trinitron was nice, but I do not regret upgrading to LCD. You
    can sometimes find the 1704FPV on sale at Dell's site for around $250.

    The only concern I've had with the 1704FPV is with the stand. No doubt Dell
    offers the most sturdy LCD stands available, but with this unit the monitor
    would not center perfectly level on the stand. It's built to rotate only one
    direction and not the other. When rotated to top dead center as far as it
    would go it would not center on the stand. Finally had to take the rotation
    mechanism apart and remove a metal pin that restricts full rotation. That
    fixed the stand for good, but the display quality has been nothing but
    perfect.

    <Nikki> wrote in message news:4218bf81.9623046@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

    > My questions - what are the most important considerations if I also
    > want to be able to watch movies and TV using this monitor (my pc has a
    > tv card fitted). Will an LCD monitor show DVDs, movies and TV as well
    > as the 17" old one did (when I say old, its like a year old)
  4. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

    "Pinger" <Pinger@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aYGdnU_B-qNcTIXfRVn-oQ@adelphia.com...
    > [] Although another
    > question I would like to pose is picture size, seems to me a 17" flat panel
    > LCD looks to be the same size picture wise to an 19" CRT (regular monitor we
    > have now). Is this true or just a optical illusion on my part??

    It just so happens that tonight I was gathering/generating some related
    data, and in case you are interested, here it is. For proper alignment,
    copy/paste the following into notepad or some other editor that uses
    fixed width fonts.

    In the following table, "Display Width" and "Display Height" are for
    the viewable area of the displays.

    Monitor Display Width Display Height Aspect Ratio Native Res
    17" CRT 12.5 9.4 4:3 N/A
    19" CRT 14 10.5 4:3 N/A
    1704FPT LCD 13.3 10.6 5:4 1200x1024
    1801FP LCD 14.1 11.3 5:4 1200x1024
    1905FP LCD 14.8 11.9 5:4 1200x1024
    2001FP LCD 16.1 12.1 4:3 1600x1200
    2005WFP LCD 17 10.7 8:5 1680x1050

    Below are figures for what I'll call "logical pixels per inch" (LPPI). If a
    monitor is 12.5" wide and running at 1024x768, there will be approx
    1024/12.5 logical pixes per inch. I say "logical" so that there is no
    confusion with LCD panels, where the 1024 logical pixels will be scaled
    to the N physical pixels of the display. Assuming all other things are equal
    (Windows is using the same DPI, fonts size prefs are the same, etc),
    I believe the following gives one some idea of how large things will look
    on the various displays. For example, a 19" CRT at 1024x768 displays
    roughly 73 LPPI. On a 2001FP, that same resolution would produce
    roughly 63.5 LPPI. Thus the same text or picture would appear approx
    13% larger on the 2001FP at that resolution.

    Notes: The greater the difference between horizontal LPPI and vertical
    LPPI, the more elongated text and images will be. If you run an LCD
    display at a non-native resolution, the image quality will be reduced. In
    some cases a little bit, in some cases alot.

    Logical PPI data (hLPPI = hRes/dWidth, vLPPI = vRes/dHeight)...

    17" CRT
    1024x768: hLPPI = 81.92, vLPPI = 81.7
    1152x864: hLPPI = 92.16, vLPPI = 91.91
    1280x1024: hLPPI = 102.4, vLPPI = 108.94

    19" CRT
    1024x768: hLPPI = 73.14, vLPPI = 73.14
    1152x864: hLPPI = 82.29, vLPPI = 82.29
    1280x1024: hLPPI = 91.43, vLPPI = 97.52

    1704FPT LCD
    1024x768: hLPPI = 76.99, vLPPI = 72.45
    1152x864: hLPPI = 86.62, vLPPI = 81.51
    1280x1024: hLPPI = 96.24, vLPPI = 96.6 (native)

    1801FP LCD
    1024x768: hLPPI = 72.62, vLPPI = 67.96
    1152x864: hLPPI = 81.7, vLPPI = 76.46
    1280x1024: hLPPI = 90.78, vLPPI = 90.62 (native)

    1905FP LCD
    1024x768: hLPPI = 69.19, vLPPI = 64.54
    1152x864: hLPPI = 77.84, vLPPI = 72.61
    1280x1024: hLPPI = 86.49, vLPPI = 86.05 (native)

    2001FP LCD
    1024x768: hLPPI = 63.6, vLPPI = 63.47
    1152x864: hLPPI = 71.55, vLPPI = 71.4
    1280x1024: hLPPI = 79.5, vLPPI = 84.63
    1600x1200: hLPPI = 99.38, vLPPI = 99.17 (native)

    2005WFP LCD
    1024x768: hLPPI = 60.24, vLPPI = 71.78
    1152x864: hLPPI = 67.76, vLPPI = 80.75
    1280x1024: hLPPI = 75.29, vLPPI = 95.7
    1600x1200: hLPPI = 94.12, vLPPI = 112.15
    1680x1050: hLPPI = 98.82, vLPPI = 98.13 (native)


    A 19" CRT at 1024x768 compared to LCDs @ native...

    1704FPT = 96.42 vs 73.14 = 31.8% smaller objects
    1801FP = 90.7 vs 73.14 = 24% smaller objects
    1905FP = 86.27 vs 73.14 = 18% smaller objects
    2001FP = 99.28 vs 73.14 = 35.7% smaller objects
    2005WFP = 98.48 vs 73.14 = 34.6% smaller objects

    Comments/corrections welcome, I cranked this out pretty
    quickly.
  5. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

    Well done User N. Good to see someone so enthusiastic to help others
    out. I learn't quite a lot myself for your hard earned nose to the grind.
    ricardo

    User N wrote:
    >
    > "Pinger" <Pinger@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:aYGdnU_B-qNcTIXfRVn-oQ@adelphia.com...
    >
    >> [] Although another question I would like to pose is picture size,
    >> seems to me a 17" flat panel LCD looks to be the same size picture
    >> wise to an 19" CRT (regular monitor we have now). Is this true or just
    >> a optical illusion on my part??
    >
    >
    > It just so happens that tonight I was gathering/generating some related
    > data, and in case you are interested, here it is. For proper alignment,
    > copy/paste the following into notepad or some other editor that uses
    > fixed width fonts.
    >
    > In the following table, "Display Width" and "Display Height" are for
    > the viewable area of the displays.
    >
    > Monitor Display Width Display Height Aspect Ratio Native Res
    > 17" CRT 12.5 9.4 4:3 N/A
    > 19" CRT 14 10.5 4:3 N/A
    > 1704FPT LCD 13.3 10.6 5:4 1200x1024
    > 1801FP LCD 14.1 11.3 5:4 1200x1024
    > 1905FP LCD 14.8 11.9 5:4 1200x1024
    > 2001FP LCD 16.1 12.1 4:3 1600x1200
    > 2005WFP LCD 17 10.7 8:5 1680x1050
    >
    > Below are figures for what I'll call "logical pixels per inch" (LPPI).
    > If a
    > monitor is 12.5" wide and running at 1024x768, there will be approx
    > 1024/12.5 logical pixes per inch. I say "logical" so that there is no
    > confusion with LCD panels, where the 1024 logical pixels will be scaled
    > to the N physical pixels of the display. Assuming all other things are
    > equal
    > (Windows is using the same DPI, fonts size prefs are the same, etc),
    > I believe the following gives one some idea of how large things will look
    > on the various displays. For example, a 19" CRT at 1024x768 displays
    > roughly 73 LPPI. On a 2001FP, that same resolution would produce
    > roughly 63.5 LPPI. Thus the same text or picture would appear approx
    > 13% larger on the 2001FP at that resolution.
    >
    > Notes: The greater the difference between horizontal LPPI and vertical
    > LPPI, the more elongated text and images will be. If you run an LCD
    > display at a non-native resolution, the image quality will be reduced. In
    > some cases a little bit, in some cases alot.
    >
    > Logical PPI data (hLPPI = hRes/dWidth, vLPPI = vRes/dHeight)...
    >
    > 17" CRT
    > 1024x768: hLPPI = 81.92, vLPPI = 81.7
    > 1152x864: hLPPI = 92.16, vLPPI = 91.91
    > 1280x1024: hLPPI = 102.4, vLPPI = 108.94
    >
    > 19" CRT
    > 1024x768: hLPPI = 73.14, vLPPI = 73.14
    > 1152x864: hLPPI = 82.29, vLPPI = 82.29
    > 1280x1024: hLPPI = 91.43, vLPPI = 97.52
    >
    > 1704FPT LCD
    > 1024x768: hLPPI = 76.99, vLPPI = 72.45
    > 1152x864: hLPPI = 86.62, vLPPI = 81.51
    > 1280x1024: hLPPI = 96.24, vLPPI = 96.6 (native)
    >
    > 1801FP LCD
    > 1024x768: hLPPI = 72.62, vLPPI = 67.96
    > 1152x864: hLPPI = 81.7, vLPPI = 76.46
    > 1280x1024: hLPPI = 90.78, vLPPI = 90.62 (native)
    >
    > 1905FP LCD
    > 1024x768: hLPPI = 69.19, vLPPI = 64.54
    > 1152x864: hLPPI = 77.84, vLPPI = 72.61
    > 1280x1024: hLPPI = 86.49, vLPPI = 86.05 (native)
    >
    > 2001FP LCD
    > 1024x768: hLPPI = 63.6, vLPPI = 63.47
    > 1152x864: hLPPI = 71.55, vLPPI = 71.4
    > 1280x1024: hLPPI = 79.5, vLPPI = 84.63
    > 1600x1200: hLPPI = 99.38, vLPPI = 99.17 (native)
    >
    > 2005WFP LCD
    > 1024x768: hLPPI = 60.24, vLPPI = 71.78
    > 1152x864: hLPPI = 67.76, vLPPI = 80.75
    > 1280x1024: hLPPI = 75.29, vLPPI = 95.7
    > 1600x1200: hLPPI = 94.12, vLPPI = 112.15
    > 1680x1050: hLPPI = 98.82, vLPPI = 98.13 (native)
    >
    >
    > A 19" CRT at 1024x768 compared to LCDs @ native...
    >
    > 1704FPT = 96.42 vs 73.14 = 31.8% smaller objects
    > 1801FP = 90.7 vs 73.14 = 24% smaller objects
    > 1905FP = 86.27 vs 73.14 = 18% smaller objects
    > 2001FP = 99.28 vs 73.14 = 35.7% smaller objects
    > 2005WFP = 98.48 vs 73.14 = 34.6% smaller objects
    >
    > Comments/corrections welcome, I cranked this out pretty
    > quickly.
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