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July 16, 2012 5:35:50 PM

Looking for some advice on purchasing a laptop or the Ipad. Personally I feel the Ipad is more of a (Hey its the new thing) deal. I've always been a PC guy so I feel Id be losing alot of functionality with the IPad. Any advice, pro and cons, would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Thanks

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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 5:41:52 PM

If you want t retain your self respect, buy a laptop
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July 16, 2012 5:52:51 PM

As Pinhedd said, though I suppose, for completeness, the usual "would the pad's functionality be absolutely all you need?" should also be said, and do you have more money than...etc...etc
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July 16, 2012 5:53:18 PM

seems as if you get so much more for the money with a LT. Would you know if there are any brands to stay away from? IYO what is the best brand(s) to go with? thx
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July 16, 2012 5:53:21 PM

Pinhedd said:
If you want t retain your self respect, buy a laptop


Agreed
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July 16, 2012 6:01:27 PM

Tom's has a form for such a question - can't remember the link.

....questions such as:

What is you budget?
What level of gaming do you need (don't say high end - we'll point you to a desktop for that one)
What critical functions/software/features do you need?
etc
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 6:03:55 PM

It all depends on what you need to accomplish with it. If you just need to respond to emails, then of course the iPad is easier and faster and ligher and smaller. It can also be cumbersome typing on the display as compared to a keyboard.

So many pros and cons depending on the scenario...
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July 16, 2012 6:05:40 PM

You need a latop, you want an iPad. You are not alone, I played around with an iPad at work and now I want one too. . . just not sure why?
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July 16, 2012 6:08:27 PM

--> I know what you mean just, don't let them get into your brain!
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July 16, 2012 6:09:12 PM

no gaming, just accessing facebook, emails, music, general web surfing.
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 6:18:14 PM

It's simple. If you want a toy (and you can afford it) get a tablet. If you want a tool get a PC.
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 6:22:41 PM

Personally, I love the IPad for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I use it for killing time, especially when vegging out on the couch, and it serves that purpose extremely well. I was considering buying a laptop for myself so I could leave my old one at home for the girlfriend to use, but the only functionality she really needed was the few topics you mentioned, and an IPad fit the bill perfectly. Although it was fairly expensive, I love that it is instantly on and extremely portable (brings a completely new world of bathroom literature haha). I know with SSD's you can get pretty fast boot speeds and ultrabooks are the new fad, but for minor computing like email, facebook, and surfing, I think tablets are pretty hard to beat. Look into them, you can certainly find tablets that will serve your purpose well for much less than a newly released IPad, and I also believe there are wireless external hard drives that can act as additional storage space for your tablet device, resulting on savings on the storage (unless you require a lot of onboard storage for travel). Also, I believe sometime this year Office for iOS is coming out if you require that functionality.

*Edit* Her one complaint is that there is certain facebook functionality that is not available through the iOS Facebook app, so she has to use the browser version, but I believe they may have quite recently released an update that addresses this, maybe someone else can confirm. *Edit*
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July 16, 2012 6:30:34 PM

the one place a tablet definately wins over a laptop is surfing the net while on the toliet.
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 7:20:41 PM

Go with the iPad - a laptop needs "service or maintenance" at some point
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July 16, 2012 7:46:21 PM

dingo07 said:
Go with the iPad - a laptop needs "service or maintenance" at some point


Huh? Are you saying an iPad will never need "service or maintenance"?

All electronics eventually die or need to be serviced. iPad is no exception.

(Actually you may be right, I have yet to own an Apple product that could be "serviced" back into working condition. For the most part; when Apple products die, they die....which is roughly 1-2 years after purchase. Or it costs just as much as a new one to fix it. :pt1cable:  )

On topic: get the laptop. Like others have said "Toy vs. Tool".
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 7:51:06 PM

No SardonicJester, I'm saying a laptop needs to be tweaked often, like windows updates and software updates like adobe reader and java and such...

I am right... ;) 

an iPad does nothing unless you update the software version through iTunes, and even then it's seamless and painless

The iPad is a "Tool" just as much as a laptop for searching the web and writing an email - perhaps you should use one, and you'll see

For browsing the internet like you would read a newspaper - you just can't beat an iPad or tablet device
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July 16, 2012 8:02:02 PM

I like Toshiba Laptops for general purpose stuff/light gaming. (Have 2)
Acer makes a good netbook. (Have 1)
Alienware makes the best gaming laptop. (their desktops suck though)
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July 16, 2012 8:17:05 PM

Dingo07..........you listed a bunch of things (updates) that can be set to automatically occur.

How about when it comes to actual service/maintenance? When something breaks, it is going to cost you much more to fix your iPad than to fix a laptop.

What if the user decides later on that he/she wants to play some games, or use actual productive programs. The iPad just can't handle actual work. I understand that is not what the user is looking for now, but why limit yourself? If the user wants to ever have a "tool" and not a "toy", they will end up having to spend more money since the iPad can't handle it.

Surfing the web, typing up short emails, and reading articles does not require a tool. An iPad is as much of a "tool" as a phone is. Yes they can do some little things, but are limited when it comes to anything more than "playing around".

I have used one, they are fun. Pretty much a big phone. But most certainly not a tool.

So it really comes down to the person buying it. (Obviously)

Personally, I look at it this way:

1. Do you own a laptop or desktop that you primarily use? Yes? Then buy the "iPad".

2. Do you own a laptop or desktop that you primarily use? No? Then purchase a laptop. Why limit yourself in the hopes that all you will ever do is play around on the internet?
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 8:25:15 PM

sardonicjester said:
Dingo07..........you listed a bunch of things (updates) that can be set to automatically occur.

True, if you know how to do that.

There's a reson iProducts sell millions world-wide in hours... one of the reasons is the simplicity to operate
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July 16, 2012 8:27:46 PM

what is easier than clicking "Yes use recommended settings!"
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 8:32:37 PM

To someone who knows the ins and outs of windows software - nothing is easier. BUT, we have no idea what level the user is at...

you're making a dead argument - I got my MCP passing NT Server Enterprise and know exactly what your argument is before you comment - but that's not the topic here, stop turning it into a bashing of words
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July 16, 2012 8:50:30 PM

It's all about what you do on a daily basis and whether this would be your primary device. If you find yourself just browsing the web, viewing media and engaging in various social media portals then the iPad is going to be perfect for you.

Before rebuilding my desktop, I used my iPad for everything but gaming and ripping audio/video files. It's definitely a different experience but it's such a quick way to access web content. I found it incredibly convenient for when on trips because it's big enough to view content and small enough to be easy to carry on the go. I grew so accustomed to the keyboard that typing on a stable surface felt easy.

That being said, I sold my iPad2 before the new version came out to maximize the value of the device. I started to go back to using my phone for on-the-go web browsing and though I missed having a bigger screen, I found I could get my stuff done and didn't feel like I needed my iPad back. I can get everything done quickly from my beastly desktop and don't have to get frustrated by websites being converted to "mobile" format.

I may get an iPad again down the road, but I personally think I would rather have an Ultrabook like the ASUS Zenbook or the Dell XPS13/14. More functionality, same benefits when combined with a SSD.

That's my two cents...
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 8:56:59 PM

I think i mentioned what you say in your first paragraph, in my previous post... in fact, I did say that already...

+1 ^
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July 16, 2012 9:05:04 PM

dingo07 said:
To someone who knows the ins and outs of windows software - nothing is easier. BUT, we have no idea what level the user is at...

you're making a dead argument - I got my MCP passing NT Server Enterprise and know exactly what your argument is before you comment - but that's not the topic here, stop turning it into a bashing of words



What is easier than clicking on a pop up window with 2-3 options on it? haha.

So instead of "a bashing of words" you want to turn this into a D*ck showing contest? haha. Well then I see your worthless NT Server Enterprise certification and raise you an A+, Network +, Security +, and TERP10 certifications. :kaola: 

+1 to Game Junky's post.
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July 16, 2012 9:20:45 PM

sardonicjester said:
What is easier than clicking on a pop up window with 2-3 options on it? haha.

So instead of "a bashing of words" you want to turn this into a D*ck showing contest? haha. Well then I see your worthless NT Server Enterprise certification and raise you an A+, Network +, Security +, and TERP10 certifications. :kaola: 

+1 to Game Junky's post.



ROFL
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a b D Laptop
July 16, 2012 10:07:04 PM

sardonicjester said:
What is easier than clicking on a pop up window with 2-3 options on it? haha.

So instead of "a bashing of words" you want to turn this into a D*ck showing contest? haha. Well then I see your worthless NT Server Enterprise certification and raise you an A+, Network +, Security +, and TERP10 certifications. :kaola: 

+1 to Game Junky's post.



My point is you're being a _______... and you continue to prove it...
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July 16, 2012 11:07:06 PM

I agree with dingo on the simplicity. You should not assume someone knows how to change different things on a computer. It may seem really easy for most but you never know how "easy" it is for someone else.
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July 17, 2012 4:05:37 PM

well I can see there are alot of opinions out there and it is all very helpful. To answer some of the comments made, My knowledge with pc's is pretty good. And I already have a great pc for gaming so I wouldn't be cutting myself short when it comes to getting an Ipad. Most of the "in depth" commenets made by you all seem to side with the Ipad for my needs. The most concerning for me is the price of an Ipad. $600-$800 for an Ipad. I can get a pretty good LT for that money. So, would it really be worth it tho drop that kind of money into an Ipad? Or should I say, would the "high end" Ipad (64g I think) be a better decicion then say a $6-$800 LT? Thx
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a b D Laptop
July 17, 2012 4:25:11 PM

I have the WIFI 16GB version of the iPad - and after jailbreaking it, I almost never use my laptop (XPS M1530 with 240GB SSD) when I'm at home. Only when I don't want to sit at my desktop and my wife has the iPad, am I forced to use my laptop at home. We spent $545 (price including taxes) for the iPad, in white, of course!
Let make the point that I only use the iPad to read news on the internet, or kill time with simple game apps. I dload all my stuff via torrents from my iPhone4, and then transfer them via iFile to my laptop to put into iTunes. Very simple procedure that's flawless.
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a b D Laptop
July 17, 2012 4:26:04 PM

dingo07 said:
Go with the iPad - a laptop needs "service or maintenance" at some point



Are you really naive enough to believe that tablets are service & maintenance free?
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a b D Laptop
July 17, 2012 4:28:05 PM

ram1009 said:
Are you really naive enough to believe that tablets are service & maintenance free?


Do I REALLY sound like I'm naive...???

where's your brain????
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a b D Laptop
July 17, 2012 6:21:51 PM

For your intended usage - go with the ipad, or one of the other tablets (some come very close to the ipad at a cost savings.

My wife has a desktop, netbook and an Ipad - She uses the ipad the most, netbook never and desktop for what can not be done on the ipad.

Myself I have a great notebook, and need the functionality of the Notebook (for work). But have to say for that trip on the plane, the tablet is a better choice.
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July 17, 2012 7:09:09 PM

wackyzman said:
well I can see there are alot of opinions out there and it is all very helpful. To answer some of the comments made, My knowledge with pc's is pretty good. And I already have a great pc for gaming so I wouldn't be cutting myself short when it comes to getting an Ipad. Most of the "in depth" commenets made by you all seem to side with the Ipad for my needs. The most concerning for me is the price of an Ipad. $600-$800 for an Ipad. I can get a pretty good LT for that money. So, would it really be worth it tho drop that kind of money into an Ipad? Or should I say, would the "high end" Ipad (64g I think) be a better decicion then say a $6-$800 LT? Thx


I understand your thoughts - they're definitely not inexpensive and that's one of the reasons I have been holding off getting a new one. I had an iPad2 and was very satisfied with my user experience - screen was bright and more than sufficient for streaming netflix or watching a ripped movie. The new iPad's screen is without a doubt a lot brighter and crisper (my buddy has one), but the iPad2 would be a great device to consider if you can find a deal. If you don't care about getting that white "Apple" box, I would recommend getting a refurb model from Apple. They replace the facial pieces and the battery, they just don't ship it to you in a retail box.

You could also look at an Android tablet - Android OS is very functional and some of them have better performance aspects than the iPad. As long as you're not too married to iOS, I would recommend looking and pricing and try out the iPad vs an Android tablet like the Samsung Galaxy or Transformer Prime.

If I were getting an iPad, I would probably get either the 16GB or 32GB and pickup a wireless hard drive solution if you find yourself needing more room when you travel. I think WD has the better platform at the moment but the cost is still a little bit too expensive to get me to buy-in.
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July 17, 2012 10:58:02 PM

I currently have the "new" ipad as apple names it. Its a 32GB model. I would suggest if you decide to buy one to get at least 32GB not the 16GB as probably will be limited in space. Also, I would say the most major difference between ipad 2 and the "new" ipad or ipad 3 is the retina display. You will definitely notice a difference between the displays as the new ipad is much clearer but definitely not worth 600$. The iPad 2 has a 1024x768 display and the new iPad has 2048x1536 display. Apple products are always over priced but they always seem to make quality products that work well in my opinion. Like what was previously mentioned you can go with an android based tablet but I recommend you try out the ipad and see if you like it and if so then fork out the cash. I bought mine months ago and I use it everyday even bring it to work. Its waaay more portable than a laptop and at least 8 hours battery life(try getting close to that with a laptop :)  ). I also want to make clear that I am not an apple fanboy or anything just love things that work well.
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