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Nvidia got it, Dual CARD WOOT

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June 28, 2004 1:55:32 PM

Its on thg front page . You will be able to double your video card. [-peep-] Alienware :p  .

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June 28, 2004 2:08:13 PM

I am getting 2x 6800 gt, this is gonna be awesome.

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June 28, 2004 2:18:52 PM

I hope they add a mix-and-match option later.

Buy a 6800U and a year later add a 6900U. That would rock.

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June 28, 2004 2:34:29 PM

Yea , i cant wait to play farcry with the absolute max setting...

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June 28, 2004 3:24:01 PM

The array wont be released until Q4 04. Your GTs will be old news by then.

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June 28, 2004 3:34:44 PM

Did a 2d card really cost 200-300$ in those days? I don't really remember. You can get one now for like 2-3$.

I had a kickass Trident with <b> 2MB </b> !

Cost a shitload in 1994-5

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June 28, 2004 3:54:17 PM

You have the money to buy that? $1000
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June 28, 2004 4:09:20 PM

Sweet cant wait to see somebody like FUGGER have two 6800U massively cooled/oced to get some 20k++ in 3dmark 03 hehe

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June 28, 2004 4:41:44 PM

I wonder how much you'd have to pay for cooling ontop of the cost of the 2 cards/a mobo with dual pci-e/bridging piece/probably a new psu. them 2 cards are sure to cause an amazing amount of heat. You'd probably end up having to go with water cooling unless you'd want your pc to vibrate and sound like a jet engine when you turn it on. :wink:

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June 28, 2004 5:09:10 PM

What do u have again jet engines?

The 6800gt wont be outdated in august-september LOL. Dont even bother saying that 2 of them would not be good.

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June 28, 2004 5:24:35 PM

Q4 = october or later

If i was going to spend 6 grand on a motherboard, cooling system, and 1000W power supply, i sure as hell wouldnt try to save a few dollars and put 2 6 month old cards in there that werent considered the best avaliable when they were released.

Theyd be good, but why buy a Ferrari and put 87 gas in it?

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June 28, 2004 5:42:18 PM

ditto, 6 months the next revision of these cards is just more memory, no more speed improvements for a while. r500 for ATi maybe but other then that no serious change in the nV line
June 28, 2004 6:21:09 PM

Thats not the point.

Of course you wouldnt necessarily UPGRADE from the GT to a later card. But why buy the older, slower, and cheaper GT when the array system becomes avaliable?

Spending thousands only to be cheap when you buy the cards themselves? Ehh...

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June 28, 2004 7:48:14 PM

You should stop talking now.

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June 28, 2004 8:25:03 PM

The whole 2 card things sounds good but I wonder how they'll get around the possible problems mentioned in Tom's article. I wonder if a possible future graphics solution using two (or more) cards would be to separate out graphics functions onto two cards. For example a card could specialise in normal rendering without AA and would pass that onto a separate card which specialises on just that one thing (and may have low power requirements) so you'd always have the best possible antialising always with no real penalty. Another option (which might solve some problems) would be to have each card rendering every second frame (so they'd have to be a one frame latency?) so that 30 fps normally would smooth at to 60 fps (with the drawback of the output lagging by one frame but hey, who would notice 1/60 second?
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June 28, 2004 8:32:42 PM

Buy a Gt now, when you upgrade your CPU/MOBO in 6 months pop another one of these "cheap and outdated" card instead of buying a new R500/whatever. So you end up witht he same perf for cheaper.
I agree far from everybody is in that position but hey...it will benefit some...

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June 28, 2004 9:13:18 PM

i plan on getting a very top notch computer.

Amd 64 I dont know wich one yet (One of the socket 939 cpu).
Mobo, hmmmm a Nforce 3 mobo with 2 pci express slot...IMO its coming soon.
Ram 1gig pc 3200
2x Geforce 6800GT
Maybe a raid 0 2x 100gig W/D or a single 200gig if i run out of $$$



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June 28, 2004 10:13:30 PM

Dang, <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?nam..." target="_new">I thought that's what it was for</A>!

Stupid ComputerBase saying that's not the case, and making me doubt it. Bastardz!

Well it'll be nice to see it in action, especially without the rest of Alienware's stuff or even similarly with AlienWare's solution.


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June 28, 2004 10:22:24 PM

Alienware's for poser leet wannabes. SLi is la way to go!

hey grape, ever thought of.........

2x Volari!!! 4 GPU!!!! WOOT!!!!!

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June 28, 2004 10:28:45 PM

How about one with two of <A HREF="http://www.darkcrow.co.kr/News/News_Content.asp?board_i..." target="_new">THESE</A>!

8 VPUs! :evil: 

And each one of them faster than the 2 Volaris! :lol: 



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June 29, 2004 2:27:09 AM

I'll take one of those. But still waiting on X800Pro. :frown:
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June 29, 2004 4:48:50 AM

I actually read the article. Power and heat be damned, I want someone to divide the x16 bus into two x8 data paths going to two VPU's on the same card. After all, PCI-Ex x8 is still WAY more than any cards will need for the forseeable future.

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June 29, 2004 6:05:28 AM

Actually while we're at it, who needs SLI, just give me the 2 PXI-EX 16X slots and let me put an X800/GF6800 for the main monitor and a mid-range card driving both Surround monitors (who needs Full precision high res AA/AF for surround?). Now THAT's how surround gaming should be done. Even if VIA's AGP + PCI-EX 16X solution does allow both to work simultaneously, then we're in Bizniz!


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June 29, 2004 7:41:48 AM

VIA? CRASH! w00t!

Anywho, we don't need no stinkin x16 slots, won't need them for YEARS. x4 would be "fast enough", x8 would be fast enough for a few years.

And yes, I wouldn't mind having panoramic gaming via multiple cards!

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June 29, 2004 10:36:37 AM

Absolutely agree with you.

Only an option if you have thousands of $ to burn. Sounds incredibly expensive to me, far from optimal price/performance ratio. I doubt a lot of mobos will provide two x16 slots, and will be quite expensive. 550W Power supply is not exactly what I have. And $1000 for GPUs ... :eek:  No man, not for me.

SLI/similar solution could be better for midrange cards, but still uncertain.

My idea: build and additional card with a second GPU/memory that does NOT need x16 slot. Data can come from "master" GPU through a conector. Some kind of add on card. Define a standard protocol for nvidia cards so you can always add future add on cards.


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June 29, 2004 12:25:30 PM

Just leave the Physical pathwars there with a sort of controller chip, allow the bus to be put from 8x to 16x, depending on your needs, then eveyone will be happy, or better yet, lets all get quantum physics computers, they are exponentially faster than the fastest dua 6800Ultra or X800 XT out there!!! Muhahahhaha (play cheesy horror music). I think 1 card is fast enough, 58 fps in farcry at max graphics and 1600x1200, you really wouldn't nitice any diff, maybe just a hare smoother, but we'll probably get another 5 or 6 fps increase as drivers continue to roll out of Nvidia, remember they just got the drivers to run on 6800 code path, now they have to tweak it for the 6800, as long as IQ stays as good as ATi's, i don't car what optamizations they make. But if you enjoy haveing something that is 10x more powerful than everyone elses and you have the money, then go ahead.
PS the 6800's and the X800's won't be old news in 6 months, remmeber toms article satating that Nvidia and ATI are just going to realease refresher cards between now and about 2 years when a new line comes out. All of the next cores are more optamized versions, a little more speed, but that is good for us, that means our cards will become more mainstream and faarrrr from outdated, so we get all the games optamized for us, yipeee!!!

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June 29, 2004 12:26:16 PM

Just leave the Physical pathways there with a sort of controller chip, allow the bus to be put from 8x to 16x, depending on your needs, then eveyone will be happy, or better yet, lets all get quantum physics computers, they are exponentially faster than the fastest dua 6800Ultra or X800 XT out there!!! Muhahahhaha (play cheesy mad scientist music). I think 1 card is fast enough, 58 fps in farcry at max graphics and 1600x1200, you really wouldn't nitice any diff, maybe just a hare smoother, but we'll probably get another 5 or 6 fps increase as drivers continue to roll out of Nvidia, remember they just got the drivers to run on 6800 code path, now they have to tweak it for the 6800, as long as IQ stays as good as ATi's, i don't care what optamizations they make. But if you enjoy haveing something that is 10x more powerful than everyone elses and you have the money, then go ahead.
PS the 6800's and the X800's won't be old news in 6 months, remmeber toms article satating that Nvidia and ATI are just going to realease refresher cards between now and about 2 years when a new line comes out. All of the next cores are more optamized versions, a little more speed, but that is good for us, that means our cards will become more mainstream and faarrrr from outdated, so we get all the games optamized for us, yipeee!!!

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June 29, 2004 8:46:22 PM

haha, is that the best response you could come up with?

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June 29, 2004 10:58:59 PM

To clear up some confusion:

Alienware’s Video Array was developed exclusively by Alienware’s R&D department and is not based on Nvidia’s recently announced technology. In fact, Video Array works with cards from ATI or Nvidia, Matrox, 3Dlabs, etc.

For more info, including the Alienware Video Array unveiling at E3, go to www.alienware.com/videoarray
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June 29, 2004 11:08:30 PM

Thanx, eh! Now how about a Discount! :wink:

BTW, it was mentioned in Lars' blurb that the AlienWare would likely support ATI solutions and be more universal;

<font color=purple>"... since Alienware's Array works with cards from any company."</font color=purple>

Thanks for the confirmation! :cool:


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June 29, 2004 11:08:30 PM

To alienware PR : You do not, not suck.

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June 29, 2004 11:12:14 PM

LOL!

Just while rereading I noticed that XGI isn't explicitly listed in the list of cards that work with the array, only 'Quality' card makers make the list. :evil: 

Ahhh XGI, guess CoolS your little musing isn't at the forefront of the recommendation list. :lol: 


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