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mizuno wrote:
> 20 c per message sent, no bundles available for international sms ... what
> the *uck >
>
>
>
I don't see an increase. In fact, in total, I see a reduction on
postpaid. (since you talk of bundles, you must be talking of postpaid).
It used to be 10c to send and 10c to receive, or 20c
Now it is 15c to send, free to receive, 20c to send internationally,
free to receive.
To me that is no change to international and a 5c decrease for Canadian
messages.
Bundles are still there, under Packages/options- and don't recall how
they have changed (I am grandfathered on a very old plan)
That is like someone selling chocolate bars for $10 a piece saying he is
reducing it to $8.00. It is still a ripoff when you consider that chocolate
bars can be had for $1.00
The thing is that with Fido trying to become landline competition, it will
need to start to offer really competitive overseas long distance, not just
some reduction on the old fashioned exhorbitant rates.
When you can find long distance to the UK that costs less than the "basic"
long distance between west island of montreal and longueuil ($0.35 per
minute), then Fido must really stop setting its rate against the "basic"
published rates which no longer have any value/meaning.
This is especially true when you roam and every incoming call costs you an
overseas long distance. If Fido's overseas rates for popular countries such as
UK, France etc were very competitive ($0.10 to $0.25) rate, perhaps people
might roam a lot more. As it stands, Fido'.s roaming rates are such that only
millionaires who don't care about how much it costs will use it.
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Of course you would need to be rich to be "roaming" around Europe in the
first place.
Testy
"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
news:bac5fc699e053e9893d7f566a5d0b2c1@news.teranews.com...
> AndrewH wrote:
> > International long distance is now $4 per month and 60% off.
> > (here is the link but don't think it will work > > http://www.fido.ca/portal/en/bizpa [...] onal.shtml >
> That is like someone selling chocolate bars for $10 a piece saying he is
> reducing it to $8.00. It is still a ripoff when you consider that
chocolate
> bars can be had for $1.00
>
> The thing is that with Fido trying to become landline competition, it will
> need to start to offer really competitive overseas long distance, not just
> some reduction on the old fashioned exhorbitant rates.
>
> When you can find long distance to the UK that costs less than the "basic"
> long distance between west island of montreal and longueuil ($0.35 per
> minute), then Fido must really stop setting its rate against the "basic"
> published rates which no longer have any value/meaning.
>
> This is especially true when you roam and every incoming call costs you an
> overseas long distance. If Fido's overseas rates for popular countries
such as
> UK, France etc were very competitive ($0.10 to $0.25) rate, perhaps people
> might roam a lot more. As it stands, Fido'.s roaming rates are such that
only
> millionaires who don't care about how much it costs will use it.
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 13:54:02 GMT, AndrewH <Andrew-Lists@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>mizuno wrote:
>> 20 c per message sent, no bundles available for international sms ... what
>> the *uck >I don't see an increase. In fact, in total, I see a reduction on
>postpaid. (since you talk of bundles, you must be talking of postpaid).
>
>It used to be 10c to send and 10c to receive, or 20c
>
>Now it is 15c to send, free to receive, 20c to send internationally,
>free to receive.
>
>To me that is no change to international and a 5c decrease for Canadian
>messages.
There's a change: I have FidoPro and before May 20, 2004 all SMS, send
or receive (North America or international), are included. It does not
matter what the destination. After May 20, 2004 included SMS are only
for North America. International SMS is excluded, that is it cost
$0.20. No matter what "SMS bundle" you subscribe to international SMS
is excluded.
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I believe that Fido's roaming rates are comparable to the other Canadian
cellular providers' rates. My thoughts on roaming is, if you are travelling
and using your phone often in another country, get an unlocked GSM phone and
buy a prepaid SIM for that country. If you plan on just travelling for a few
days and not using your phone often, use the roaming rates of your cellular
provider.
This is one of the reasons why I purchased an unlocked phone...
"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
news:bac5fc699e053e9893d7f566a5d0b2c1@news.teranews.com...
> AndrewH wrote:
> > International long distance is now $4 per month and 60% off.
> > (here is the link but don't think it will work > > http://www.fido.ca/portal/en/bizpa [...] onal.shtml >
> That is like someone selling chocolate bars for $10 a piece saying he is
> reducing it to $8.00. It is still a ripoff when you consider that
chocolate
> bars can be had for $1.00
>
> The thing is that with Fido trying to become landline competition, it will
> need to start to offer really competitive overseas long distance, not just
> some reduction on the old fashioned exhorbitant rates.
>
> When you can find long distance to the UK that costs less than the "basic"
> long distance between west island of montreal and longueuil ($0.35 per
> minute), then Fido must really stop setting its rate against the "basic"
> published rates which no longer have any value/meaning.
>
> This is especially true when you roam and every incoming call costs you an
> overseas long distance. If Fido's overseas rates for popular countries
such as
> UK, France etc were very competitive ($0.10 to $0.25) rate, perhaps people
> might roam a lot more. As it stands, Fido'.s roaming rates are such that
only
> millionaires who don't care about how much it costs will use it.
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:11:56 GMT, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>This is especially true when you roam and every incoming call costs you an
>overseas long distance. If Fido's overseas rates for popular countries such as
>UK, France etc were very competitive ($0.10 to $0.25) rate, perhaps people
>might roam a lot more. As it stands, Fido'.s roaming rates are such that only
>millionaires who don't care about how much it costs will use it.
Before you start singling out Fido you might do well to compare what
other carriers charge for roaming. There are none that I know of that
are what you might call "bargains." T-Mobile in the US with their
"world class" rates charges at least 99 cents/minute to make or
receive calls in western Europe. More expensive elsewhere. cingular
from some of their territory charges almost $5 a minute! Don't even
get started on what Telus and Bell charge with their kludgey setup for
international roaming.
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"Steven Fisher" <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:sdfisher-EFBD1B.02344808062004@news.va.shawcable.net...
> In article <RWTwc.20324$gf1.49369@news1.mts.net>,
> "mizuno" <nojunk-mizuno@eudoramail.com> wrote:
>
> > 20 c per message sent, no bundles available for international sms ...
what
> > the *uck >
> Call and complain. Write letters and complain.
Hehe, ya, 5 letter, out of hundreds of thousands of customers, yup,
that'll have a great effect...
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In article <at0hp1-9rh.ln1@host.domain>,
"repatch" <repatch42@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hehe, ya, 5 letter, out of hundreds of thousands of customers, yup,
> that'll have a great effect...
It would be more than that. At least here in the west, there are a lot
of immigrants who use SMS to keep in touch with those back home (in the
Philippines, Japan, China, etc.). Fido *was* the chosen provider for
these people, and they probably generated a majority of the text
messages on the network here.
--
Steven Fisher; sdfisher@spamcop.net
"Morituri Nolumus Mori."
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JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<7e5955b480a585d60a4769c8b0ba1b45@news.teranews.com>...
> Ototin wrote:
> > There's a change: I have FidoPro and before May 20, 2004 all SMS, send
> > or receive (North America or international), are included.
>
> Did they re-instate free inbound SMS from TAP and WEB sites ? When I dropped
> FidoPro, those were no longer included in the package.
anything not coming from a cellular phone is 15 cents per message...
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In article <fLBxc.24603$gf1.54901@news1.mts.net>,
"mizuno" <nojunk-mizuno@eudoramail.com> wrote:
> There is still an alternative - Rogers, but I am not sure if thy will decide
> to exclude intl sms from their bundles or not. I guarantee lot's of new
> subscribers for rogers if they do not make any changes.
Rogers isn't any cheaper, are they? $0.20 for an intl SMS, no matter who
you use. But Rogers might just get some converts from the way Fido
handled this.
--
Steven Fisher; sdfisher@spamcop.net
"Morituri Nolumus Mori."
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In article <sdfisher-EFBD1B.02344808062004@news.va.shawcable.net>,
Steven Fisher <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:
> "mizuno" <nojunk-mizuno@eudoramail.com> wrote:
>> 20 c per message sent, no bundles available for international sms ... what
>> the *uck >Call and complain. Write letters and complain.
Or maybe many people who recently moved to Canada are accustomed to this
type of fee schedule.
Take Hong Kong carriers for example, almost all their SMS bundled or
package option do not include SMS to other Hong Kong networks or
international users.
(C$1=HK$5.736)
You can pay a HK$50 (C$8.7) package for 200 SMS; but you need to pay extra
for sending to non-SmarTone users.
For international SMS, with this package, you only get ONE SMS with
reduced fee at HK$2 (C$0.35). All others are charged at HK$3 (C$0.52) per
SMS!
