Strange PNY Ti4600

[atfihunred]

I bought a PNY Ti4600 as close-out at EB. This card is very fast for its time (11,500 3d 2001)but I know it doesn't hold a candle to the upcoming 6800...let's not go there.
This card is green PCB with a chrome heatsink.
After digging, it comes up to be a MSI Ti4600 VTD (8872)
the powerstrip identifies it as MicroStar 87211462h,Rev. A3.
This card has the conexant chip on the flip side, so I understand that fault....no VIVO. (they were said to have fixed this)
The PNY labels and S/N ID are there, but the card was a throw in the box, so MSI must've run short on Maroon colored PCB's and threw an 8872 modded for no VIVO and slapped the PNY stickers on it.
Nonetheless, The card has the 2.8ns BGA memory and the clock sits at 300/661.5 just as spec'd on the VTD.
Any feedback?
Anyone else got a strange card that appears different from what you expected?

AM37 2200+XP
Maxtor 160 Gb 7200/8mb
640mb Kingston
PNY(MSI 8872)GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb

 

[pauldh]

Strange. I wonder who else MSI makes cards for.

The winner of <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5110861551&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT" target="_new">this auction</A> will soon discover he has a card unlike what he thought he was getting. Over $206 shipped for a 128-bit 9800 Pro. LOL, boy people get screwed on ebay. But it was stated as 128-bit, so it's the buyers fault for sure. I was watching a couple of these because for $130 or less I'd buy one just to benchmark the thing compared to a real 9800 pro, 9500 pro, 9800se. Bugs me I can't find benchies on these things. I figured for $130, I could get most of that money back through a system build or ebaying the card.


ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 1GB Corsair XMS 4000 Pro Series, Radeon 9800 Pro, Santa Cruz, TruePower 430watt

 

[DonnieDarko]

rofl, well still ebay shouldn't allow that since it is false advertising. The card is no longer labelled as a 9800pro but that's what the ad states.

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512mb Kingmax ddr400
Sapphire 9800pro 128mb
10K WD Raptor

 

[pauldh]

Well, look through all the 9800 pro's being sold. Some people have it labeled as 256-bit, but it looks like the 128-bit card. SO that guy is one of the honest ones.

I think that the Saphire 9800 Atlantis as it is now called, is also clocked lower than the original 128-bit pros. So if he has 380/340 clocked version, I guess that's fine.

ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 1GB Corsair XMS 4000 Pro Series, Radeon 9800 Pro, Santa Cruz, TruePower 430watt

 

[pauldh]

Sorry to change the subject from what you originally asked.

ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 1GB Corsair XMS 4000 Pro Series, Radeon 9800 Pro, Santa Cruz, TruePower 430watt

 

[addiarmadar]

Thats strange. I didnt get the green PCB one but the purple PCB one. It came up as PNY ti4600 in all fields. It can do up to 330/750 without voltmodding.

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Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro to XT(463/795)

 

[atfihunred]

I got mine to 330/725. I tried 750 but got Tiny artifacts.
I have only the 'disable support for driver options'
box checked. Is there anything else I should add on this list that could help me push it up a notch?
Any info is greatly needed/ appreciated.
Thanks

AM37 2200+XP
Maxtor 160 Gb 7200/8mb
640mb Kingston
PNY(MSI 8872)GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb
(E-Machines W2247 mod'd)

 

[addiarmadar]

Not surprised at that. That RAM burns pretty damn hot and you need some ramsinks. I got the thermaltake bga ramsinks on my ti4600. But really my scores didnt flinch past 700 on the ram. I just do 750 for giggles and the heat still stays down.

I got an AMD hsf on the GPU core and it stay dead cold so the limit at 330 is not heat but just time to vmod it.

Mobile Barton 2500+ @ 2420mhz 11x220 1.7v
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro to XT(463/795)

 

[atfihunred]

I had actually gone and bought the 'BFG' ramsinks before doing the powerstrip. It doesn't seem to make much difference at the moment. I'm upgrading the Powersupply soon to ....at least 350 watts. I'm doin 250 now.
Could have some effect I suppose.

AM37 2200+XP
Maxtor 160 Gb 7200/8mb
640mb Kingston
PNY(MSI 8872)GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb
(E-Machines W2247 mod'd)

 

[addiarmadar]

good idea, the ti4600 requires at least 300 but Id get at least 400

Mobile Barton 2500+ @ 2420mhz 11x220 1.7v
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro to XT(463/795)

 

[phial]

wow


i find MSI cards to be cheap. the pcb and the way things are soldered on.. just looks messy

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[Michaelthehibby]

But does it play Doom3 OK (at any resolution)?

I've a P4 2.4, 1GB RAM, PNY GF 4600, loads of disk system and Doom3 on order but wondering should I order a new mid-price video card to go with it?

 

[sweatlaserxp]

Tried it on my friend's system, the Ti4200 runs Doom impressively at 800x600, medium detail.

 

[sweatlaserxp]

"128-bit memory interface removes hardware performance bottleneck and provides end users with faster 3D graphics"

 

[atfihunred]

I would expect my situation to be a "CPU Limited" due to the Athlon 2200+.
I'd say running it on the newest P4 config wouldn't be too bad,
but the fact that it doesn't support dx 9 is the downside.
I want the 6800- I just haven't said it.
Once it's down to $250.........*Gotta replace the Powersupply or I'll be sittin' watchin it flicker and spit.
If you like doom 3, then get a 'better, newer, dx 9 capable card'. The NV 6800 is very attractive!

*UPDATE: I Must Own A 6800. No Question.


AM37 2200+XP
Maxtor 160 Gb 7200/8mb
640mb Kingston
PNY(MSI 8872)GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb
(E-Machines W2247 mod'd)

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by atfihunred on 08/15/04 11:18 PM.</EM></FONT></P>