Doom 3 Video Cards

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I don't believe what Tom's guide did! It was very stupid thing. Your review on which card is best for doom 3 is sorta lame.
http://www.tomshardware.com/game/20040809/index.html
Very lame. The whole review that you used was using unmatched cards which I'm sure you guys did on purpose to make Invidia look good. Why would you do a benchmark process with a 128 mb card (radeon x800) vs a 256 mb card (invidia 6800). Clearly, Tom's hardware is choosing favorites already before you decively benched marked the products. If your reply is that you chose cards that were based on prices, then you are wrong! Who tells the consumer which product to buy based on prices. Very stupid if that is why you did the benchmarks so primitively. The next thing you will tell us is to buy intel systems and not AMD. You guys need to get the lead out and start doing tests without prejudice. You use cards based on their specs and memory is one the primary aspects of basing different cards. Just because Invidia can't get the lead out and build a card worth getting, doesn't make it right for Tom's Hardware to down play Invidia's errors.

You should have used Radeon X800 256 meg card to match the 256 Invidia card... furthermore, I suppose you guys used AGP for one card while using PCI Xpress on another?

This review is totally screwed up and you guys need to redo the whole benchmarks before I even think of reading another review from you dorks!

P.S. I use to look up to Tom's site for great reviews and unmatched benchmarks like back in the late 90's. But since 2001, Tom's site is totally went down hill. From your review of the Pentium 2.0 ghz processor, I've never looked at Tom's Reviews the same. Somehow your site has been taken over by manufacturers that give your site loyalty bonuses or something, so you guys have favorites, just because companies give you something to make them look good. I don't believe this but, I trust MSN hardware site more than Tom's Site, and that's pretty sad.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by sanjose on 08/11/04 03:02 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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Alright, I won't start with calling you an idiot, but I sure will get there. You start by saying they don't use a 256mb ATI...or should that be iATI (you know countering the invdia card, its nvidia you JACKA$$)., well go to the benchmark setup page and you will see they use the X800XT...go find me a 128mb version of the X800XT plz.
ATI Radeon 9200 (250/400 MHz, 128MB)
Radeon 9600SE (325/365MHz, 128MB)
Radeon 9600XT (500/600 MHz,128MB)
Radeon 9800XT (412/730 MHz, 256MB)
Radeon X800 Pro (475/900 MHz, 256MB)
Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition (520/1120 MHz, 256MB)
NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti 4200 (250/514 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra (325/650 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra (475/950 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5900 XT (400/700 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (475/950 MHz, 256MB)
GeForce 6800 (325/700 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce 6800 GT (350/1000 MHz, 256MB)
GeForce 6800 Ultra (400/1100 MHz, 256MB)

That is the exact list they have, so start by learning to read.

Secondly where in the hell do you even see them running the test on an AMD system. Do us all a favor before you go and make an account just so you can rip on THG, learn to read you F*** head. Oh, and you're an idiot...told you I would get to that.

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sanjose

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Prototype for 256 meg x800 radeon has been out for months. Companies that truly have rights to products can/will get a prototype. Just goto MSN site and you can see their benchmarks of it. JackAzz!

P.S. Furthermore jackazz, why the hell would you even compare cards if you don't have a competitive cards from the other side? Meaning, I'm sure gonna do a test benchmark taking a Harley Davidson and comparing it to a fricking Yamaha, jerk. Get your head on straight, it was stupid of them to benchmark and state the invidia cards wins hands down, without mentioning once that the 2 cards were indeed unmatched in memory.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by sanjose on 08/11/04 03:07 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

sanjose

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Oh lastly, I should start reading? OMG dude get your head out of your azz!

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040809/doom3-01.html

What does this link show u? I took a screenshot too, just in case Tom's site does try to change it. Can you read, dumbazz?

CPU Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz
FSB 200MHz
Motherboard Intel D875PBZ (i875)
Memory 4x Corsair CMX256A-3200LL CL2, 1024MB
HDD Seagate Barracude 7200.7 120GB S-ATA (8MB)
DVD Hitachi GD-7000
LAN Netgear FA-312
Power Supply Antec True Control 550W
Drivers & Configuration
Graphics ATI Catalyst v4.9 Doom III Hotfix (Beta)
NVIDIA v61.77
Chipset Intel Inf. Update
OS Windows XP Prof. SP1a
DirectX DirectX 9.0b
Graphic cards used in this article
ATI Radeon 9200 (250/400 MHz, 128MB)
Radeon 9600SE (325/365MHz, 128MB)
Radeon 9600XT (500/600 MHz,128MB)
Radeon 9800XT (412/730 MHz, 256MB)
Radeon X800 Pro (475/900 MHz, 256MB)
Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition (520/1120 MHz, 128MB)
NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti 4200 (250/514 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra (325/650 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra (475/950 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5900 XT (400/700 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (475/950 MHz, 256MB)
GeForce 6800 (325/700 MHz, 128MB)
GeForce 6800 GT (350/1000 MHz, 256MB)
GeForce 6800 Ultra (400/1100 MHz, 256MB)

Can you tell me what your read as the highest fricking ATI Card? Ehh? there wise azz?
 

alienjedi

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OK, f***head, learn to read once again you friggen dirty sanchez pos. I said they used the 256...go tell me where it says 128 X800 XT on there...friggen idiot.

Indeed my friend...your mother.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Alienjedi on 08/11/04 03:20 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

alienjedi

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Dude, you just changed the numbers, go and look at that link u posted...it says X800XT 256mb...plz stop posting u r making yourself look bad.

Indeed my friend...your mother.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Alienjedi on 08/11/04 03:19 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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OMFG THAT GUY IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THIS FORUM, YOU DESERVE TO GET FLAMMED DOWN TO HELL!!!

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EDIT: Oops double post.

Btw You are an pure exemple of PURE 100% idioty<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by coylter on 08/11/04 03:54 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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Indeed, it was just a typo, there is no X800XT "128Mb", everybody knows that. At least know your hardware before making accusations. The THG benchmarks are not surprising at all, and I don't feel that they are biased in any way. The song remains the same: at high resolutions (where the new-generation cards are on level playing field), the 6800GT and Ultra both defeat the X800s, especially the X800 Pro, which, in the case of Doom 3, is difficult to endorse at $450 a pop.

Read the <A HREF="http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQ0" target="_new">HardOCP article</A>, it's very thorough and it reinforces the point.
 

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dude, it must be a typo (if they actually said 128mb, post a link to the snapshot) on their site. 128mb x800xt arent there, unless someone physically takes a few chips out - in which case it wont work.

I wish someone does new benches with HUMUS mod. There is no professional stats out there.

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double post!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by labbbby on 08/11/04 04:29 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
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I have to agree with the rest : You are....well... dumb!
<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2146" target="_new">Anantech</A>
<A HREF="http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQy" target="_new">HardOCP</A>

I could post 10X more they all come to the same conclusion
heres a little quote:
"There is no way for a $500 X800XT-PE to compete with a $400 6800GT when the GT is simply going to outperform the more expensive card by a good margin."

Oh and one last thing PCI Express doesnt change jack! Cards wont perform better than AGP.

So learn your sh1t and keep that FUD for your friends that are probly as dumb/illiterate as you when it comes down to Hardware!

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Oh, man, This is as funny as hell. sanjose reminds me of little man syndrome - little man with nothing to say shouting loud
 
nVidia is also stronger in OpenGL than ATi right now (as they almost always have been), so that explains the test results as well.

Doom 3 runs well enough on my machine... it could be better, but I'm not complaining... yet. :wink:

I have a P4B 2.53 with 1GB of RAM and a Radeon 9700Pro.

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Guess who owns an ATI card??

That could be the only reason why he is so upset that ATI doesn't perform as well as Nvidia in the Doom3 benchmarks.

Take your ATI machine, and your opinions somewhere else.





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alienjedi

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Dude,I could careless what kinda fan he is. When I attacked him I was, I did it on the basis that he was making an ignorant statement. Opinions are one thing, but stupidity is completely seperate.

I completely support ati and nvidia lovers alike, both cards got their plusses and ups and downs (just wish everyone else would learn to see it this way)

Why can't we all just get along? :)



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