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Will Windows HomeXP erase Win98 Second Edition?

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July 19, 2003 8:16:47 PM

My dudes and duddettes,
I want to upgrade my OS which is now Windows 98 second edition to Windows XP home or pro. the thing is i tried upgrading my OS to Windows 2000 and I wanted to save everything on my HD. It saved everything on my HD but did a dual boot and i didn't want that. it took too long to boot up!! one of my tech buddies said that i could upgrade to Windows XP without erasing anything from my HD. is that true? if so which one is it? Windows XP Home or Pro? any help is appreciated!!!

Thank you very much,
Scotty
July 19, 2003 11:09:52 PM

It doesn't matter what version of WinXP is used to upgrade your current operating system; both can be removed.

<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://s..." target="_new">How to Uninstall Windows XP and Revert to a Previous Operating System</A>

What you have to decide is which version you want, and if you want to do a fresh installation of the operating system, or just an upgrade.

I would suggest, that if you choose the upgrade route and decide you like the new operating system, then at some point in the future you give due consideration to a completely fresh installation with the upgrade CD. Upgrades over a previous OS are notorious for causing system instability and nearly indecipherable errors.

<A HREF="http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro..." target="_new">Windows XP Home Edition vs Windows XP Professional</A>

<A HREF="http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_installation_of_windo..." target="_new">Clean Install Windows XP From An Upgrade CD</A>

Toey

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July 20, 2003 2:52:44 PM

Aloha ToeJam31!!
Thanks for that great informative reply. My question is when i do an OS upgrade from Win98 second edition to either XP home or pro will the upgrade save everything on my HD? i really don't want to back anything up or copy my files and install them later. basically, i just want to install either XP and be done with. can that happen? as usual i'm the plug and play "dude". any help is appreciated.



Thanks and mahalo,
Scotty
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July 20, 2003 5:05:32 PM

That depends on what you mean by "everything", and where the data is currently located on the hard drive.

I can appreciate the fact that you'd prefer for the upgrade to be flawless, and that you don't want your files disturbed by the upgrade. None of us enjoy backing up; it takes up time and effort that could be used for other things.

But here's the reality of the situation. An upgrade of an operating system, especially if the older OS has been on the hard drive for a while, is the most unstable scenario possible for a user to attempt. Here are just a few examples of possible conflicts with a newer OS after an upgrade:

1.) Programs and games currently installed that are incompatible.
2.) Incompatible hardware.
3.) IRQ conflicts.
4.) No drivers for the hardware in the OS database.
5.) Files installed in folders within Windows, or on the root drive that are removed during the upgrade.

Will the upgrade go well? Possibly. You might install the OS and have everything be perfect afterwards. But is it <i>likely</i>? No. That's why there are pages like this in the MS Knowledge Base:

<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q310064" target="_new">HOW TO: Troubleshoot Windows XP Problems During Installation When You Upgrade from Windows 98 or Windows Me</A>

Plus, you will quickly discover that WinXP is an entirely different beast in comparison to Win98. There are aspects of this OS you may have never seen before, such as Administrative Services, Event Logs, System Recovery, the Internet Connection Firewall, and the Group Policy Editor in WinXP Pro. It may take you a few minutes just to learn how to navigate from within the new desktop and Start Menu. Despite Microsoft's claims, it is not exactly the most intuitive interface ever created.

I can set up and tweak Win98 for high performance within a very short span of time, especially if I already have the hotfixes and patches burned onto a CD. But I can easily spend six hours doing the very same things to WinXP, and over half of those changes are Registry alterations. And by the way, I work <i>fast</i>.

<A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/software/os/story/0,200..." target="_new">Windows XP Home Edition vs. Windows 98 and Me</A>

IMHO, good sir, the only way that you can be assured of an upgrade with the least amount of difficulty and frustration is to take steps in advance to minimize possible problems; and protecting your data is definitely a sizeable part of that.

If I was currently in your situation, and didn't want to perform a clean installation, these are things I would do:

1.) Create a second partition on the hard drive, and move all my personal data to this area.
2.) Test the system for WinXP compatibility.
3.) Assemble the newest drivers for my hardware (including chipset drivers) and software updates for my programs, and either burn them to CD-R disks, or store the data on that second partition. This would also include any necessary updates for the new operating system.
4.) If the system was assembled before 2001, I'd make precise, written notes of all my current BIOS settings, and then flash to the latest version for the mainboard. I'd also want to know in advance if my system supported ACPI power management, or the older APM power management, so I could select the correct HAL during the OS installation.

<i>Then</i> I might try the upgrade. But not before.

This might sound complicated, but that's really not the case. It's simply preparing your system for what's to come. You also can't assume if the upgrade causes a problem that you'll be able to uninstall WinXP and return the computer to it's previous state, as if nothing had ever happened. This is not like installing a program; this is a major upgrade, and uninstalling WinXP could possibly leave an unbootable mess behind. You <i>must</i> be prepared for the worst ... which could be a format and a reinstallation of Win98, combined with the loss of all your data.

The only users you'll ever meet who have very little down-time are those who prepare for disaster <i>before</i> it happens. Computers are not forgiving of mistakes or errors in judgement. Where I come from, we call this kind of happy-go-lucky attitude "cutting off your nose to spite your face!" :lol: 

Programs such as <A HREF="http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/" target="_new">Partition Magic</A>, or <A HREF="http://www.ranish.com/part/" target="_new">Ranish Partition Manager</A> will allow you to create partitions without losing data, if you follow the instructions carefully.

You might find these links useful:

<A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/platform/pcdesign/c..." target="_new">Consumer Desktop PC Design Checklist for Windows XP</A>

<A HREF="http://www.pcpitstop.com/xpready/default.asp" target="_new">Windows XP Readiness Test</A>

<A HREF="http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/defaul..." target="_new">Windows Update Catalog</A>

And finally, of course, there is a the option of a dual-boot. I know that you don't like the idea, because it causes a delay in the boot process (which can be edited, by the way), but it would allow you to keep Win98 intact, while you try out the newer OS. Which for many people is the entire point of a dual-boot!

In any case, as you can see, there's really no way that you can just install WinXP, relax, and be done with it. If operating systems were that simple and easy to use, this entire community would be a giant chat forum, and no one would have any problems. I would be finished with providing online technical support, and you would have never had any questions in the first place. :smile:

Give some thought to this before you proceed, okay?

Oh, and another link you might need, while I'm thinking about it:

<A HREF="http://www.ntcompatible.com/index.html" target="_new">NT Compatible.com</A>

Toey

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July 20, 2003 9:26:37 PM

Outstanding response Toey! Once again, I stand amazed, at the patience and care you extend at trying to help someone through a situation, you are truly the Guru of THGF. Ryan

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July 20, 2003 9:40:55 PM

Have you considered, getting a new hardrive, installing a full OEM installation of WinXP (Home or Pro), on the new hardrive, then after fully completing the full installation, hooking in your old hardrive as a Slave to the Master WinXP hardrive and transferring files only, (MP3s, Pictures, Word, Adobe, and whatever Documents, Videos, AVIs, MPEGs,) to the new hardrive, (No Programs, they will more than likely <b>NOT</b> be compatable with XP), because WinXP is fully capable of doing that type of transfer.

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