The tuner on the 8500DV worked fine, my friend could get better reception on certain weak channels than I can with my AIW 9600 Pro.
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Yeah I know, I had an 8500DV, but I didn't use it TOO much for TV watching, just occasional, but there were alot of rumblings about them for a long time. I was very surprised when they went back to the big SLOW-ASS tuners. That was one of the things I liked about the R8500 versus the PCIAIW, channel changing was instantaneous, no lag at all.
But I do remember alot of people bitching about them. Heck I even remember <A HREF="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021002/index..." target="_new">LARS mentioning it in his AIWR9700Pro review</A>. I'm not sure about other people's issues, but since I didn't have any problems (but then again I like ventilated well layed out cases so that may have helped) I just remember all the bitching.
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