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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 3, 2005 4:19:10 PM

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I'm trying to decide between the 3000 and 4700. I know the 4700 has
Pentium 4 vs. the 3000's Celerons. But do they use the same
motherboard?

Also, I plan on ordering the Dell with DVD-ROM only. Does the Dell
have unused drive bays? Can I put the floppy drive and HP internal
CD-RW I've been using in my old system in the new Dell?
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 3, 2005 9:06:05 PM

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The systems are similar case-wise, but that's it.
The 3000 uses a socket 478 CPU, and DDR DRAM, has no AGP or PCI Express
slot, and uses an ATX power supply.

The 4700 uses the newer LGA775 CPU, DDR-2 DRAM, has PCI Express slot,
and uses a BTX power connector.

The 3000 is a throwaway bargain basement system; the 4700 is a midrange
system.


joshhemming@fastmail.fm wrote:
> I'm trying to decide between the 3000 and 4700. I know the 4700 has
> Pentium 4 vs. the 3000's Celerons. But do they use the same
> motherboard?
>
> Also, I plan on ordering the Dell with DVD-ROM only. Does the Dell
> have unused drive bays? Can I put the floppy drive and HP internal
> CD-RW I've been using in my old system in the new Dell?
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 4, 2005 12:41:18 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

The 3000 case will not accept your existing floppy but will take your CD-RD
(assuming it is the same as the 2400 case and I believe it is).

The 3000 and 4700 are NOT the same motherboard. The 4700 supports a PCI-e
video card. The 3000 does not accept a video card. Period.

Tom
<joshhemming@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1109884750.407370.171030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm trying to decide between the 3000 and 4700. I know the 4700 has
> Pentium 4 vs. the 3000's Celerons. But do they use the same
> motherboard?
>
> Also, I plan on ordering the Dell with DVD-ROM only. Does the Dell
> have unused drive bays? Can I put the floppy drive and HP internal
> CD-RW I've been using in my old system in the new Dell?
>
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 4, 2005 12:43:09 AM

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not the same. the 3000 has the 865gv chip set and the 4700 has a 915g
(whatever that means).
the 3000 has integrated video only. the 4700 offered integrated video with
a pciexpress expansion slot for a video card upgrade (or no integrated video
if purchased originally with a pcie video card). the 3000 has two memory
sockets, the 4700 has four and supports dual channel memory access for
better performance. the 3000 has room form but no mounting bracket for a
second internal hard disk, the 4700 has the bracket for a possible second
internal hard disk. the 3000 does come with a pentium 4 but you may not
find that option given particular deal pricing. there is nothing wrong with
the 3000 if you have no desire to play cutting edge games. the 3000 will
happily play children's games, but not the hard core single point shooter
type of games... and the 3000 does not offer much in terms of upgrading
(video, hard disk, memory)... so if you know what you will be using it for
(word processing, personal finance, surfing, and not hard core games) then
go for the 3000.... if you are not sure what you will be doing with the
machine or want to play games then the 4700 is a better choice.

<joshhemming@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1109884750.407370.171030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm trying to decide between the 3000 and 4700. I know the 4700 has
> Pentium 4 vs. the 3000's Celerons. But do they use the same
> motherboard?
>
> Also, I plan on ordering the Dell with DVD-ROM only. Does the Dell
> have unused drive bays? Can I put the floppy drive and HP internal
> CD-RW I've been using in my old system in the new Dell?
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 4, 2005 12:43:10 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:NxLVd.50329$t46.41170@trndny04...
> not the same. the 3000 has the 865gv chip set and the 4700 has a 915g
> (whatever that means).

http://developer.intel.com/design/chipsets/linecard.htm
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 4, 2005 12:43:11 AM

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"User N" <usern@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:D bCdna-tBL4qObrfRVn-3A@comcast.com...
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:NxLVd.50329$t46.41170@trndny04...
>> not the same. the 3000 has the 865gv chip set and the 4700 has a 915g
>> (whatever that means).
>
> http://developer.intel.com/design/chipsets/linecard.htm


3000 also has ATX power connects, the 4700 BTX. CPU and RAM are also not
interchangeable.


Stew
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 4, 2005 12:45:24 AM

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The Intel 865 series chipsets add SATA support compared to the earlier 845
series chipsets. The Intel 915 series chipsets add support for PCI Express, our
new best friend for high speed graphics, replacing AGP. There are other
differences but these might be considered the most significant... Ben Myers

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:43:09 GMT, "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>not the same. the 3000 has the 865gv chip set and the 4700 has a 915g
>(whatever that means).
>the 3000 has integrated video only. the 4700 offered integrated video with
>a pciexpress expansion slot for a video card upgrade (or no integrated video
>if purchased originally with a pcie video card). the 3000 has two memory
>sockets, the 4700 has four and supports dual channel memory access for
>better performance. the 3000 has room form but no mounting bracket for a
>second internal hard disk, the 4700 has the bracket for a possible second
>internal hard disk. the 3000 does come with a pentium 4 but you may not
>find that option given particular deal pricing. there is nothing wrong with
>the 3000 if you have no desire to play cutting edge games. the 3000 will
>happily play children's games, but not the hard core single point shooter
>type of games... and the 3000 does not offer much in terms of upgrading
>(video, hard disk, memory)... so if you know what you will be using it for
>(word processing, personal finance, surfing, and not hard core games) then
>go for the 3000.... if you are not sure what you will be doing with the
>machine or want to play games then the 4700 is a better choice.
>
><joshhemming@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>news:1109884750.407370.171030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm trying to decide between the 3000 and 4700. I know the 4700 has
>> Pentium 4 vs. the 3000's Celerons. But do they use the same
>> motherboard?
>>
>> Also, I plan on ordering the Dell with DVD-ROM only. Does the Dell
>> have unused drive bays? Can I put the floppy drive and HP internal
>> CD-RW I've been using in my old system in the new Dell?
>>
>
>
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