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June 30, 2010 2:29:48 AM

I have done some research and so far Windows 7 is the best thing out on the market for new computer.

I just got a new PC and need windows. Now I don't want to use my old XP because my PC is 64bit and I don't care for XP 64 because well.. its OLD. I looked at Vista and people complain about it 70% of the time.

My question is this. If say I buy Windows 7 Pro OEM, will I always have free updates? let's say they come out with Service pack 2, 3, etc.. will I be able to get that for free from Microsoft website? if not, how much would I have to pay? and lastly... is Windows 7 worth it?

just in case anyone asks, I use my computer for surfing the web, etc.. and also GAMES! Hence, why I want Windows 7.


my new PC:

AMD Athlon II X2 255 Regor 3.1GHz Socket AM3 65W
Foxconn A76ML-K
ECS NR9800GTE-512QX-F GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit DDR3
A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W
200G Seagate (Master)
500GB Wester Digitital SATA

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June 30, 2010 2:48:09 AM

purple buzz said:
I have done some research and so far Windows 7 is the best thing out on the market for new computer.

I just got a new PC and need windows. Now I don't want to use my old XP because my PC is 64bit and I don't care for XP 64 because well.. its OLD. I looked at Vista and people complain about it 70% of the time.

My question is this. If say I buy Windows 7 Pro OEM, will I always have free updates? Yes. Since you have 4 GB of RAM, buy the x64 version so you can use all of 4 GBs. let's say they come out with Service pack 2, 3, etc.. will I be able to get that for free from Microsoft website? Yes if not, how much would I have to pay? and lastly... is Windows 7 worth it? I think so, I've used WinXPx86 and x64, skipped vista, and am very happy with Win7x64 ultimate. It also has DirectX11, which will become the standard for games.
just in case anyone asks, I use my computer for surfing the web, etc.. and also GAMES! Hence, why I want Windows 7.


my new PC:

AMD Athlon II X2 255 Regor 3.1GHz Socket AM3 65W
Foxconn A76ML-K
ECS NR9800GTE-512QX-F GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit DDR3
A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W
200G Seagate (Master)
500GB Wester Digitital SATA
see above
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June 30, 2010 3:27:04 AM

hey tree, thanks for your feedback. another question.

what is 1pk, 2pk mean? i read that it means you can only install an OS on 1 PC. is that true? so if say I buy another computer after already running windows 7 on my current one, give this computer (old one) to a friend. would that mean i would have to buy ANOTHER windows 7 in order to run it on my newer system? i dont get it..

ive used my XP disk that i have on the same system but i kept upgrading it so say a motherboard is different, hard drive, psu, ram, etc.. but it still worked even though it was all different computer parts.
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June 30, 2010 8:12:39 AM

purple buzz said:
hey tree, thanks for your feedback. another question.

what is 1pk, 2pk mean? i read that it means you can only install an OS on 1 PC. is that true? so if say I buy another computer after already running windows 7 on my current one, give this computer (old one) to a friend. would that mean i would have to buy ANOTHER windows 7 in order to run it on my newer system? i dont get it..

ive used my XP disk that i have on the same system but i kept upgrading it so say a motherboard is different, hard drive, psu, ram, etc.. but it still worked even though it was all different computer parts.


You may want to take a look at this:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/subscriptions/defaul...

Great value for money.
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June 30, 2010 3:07:39 PM

Any Windows OS you buy you can only use at one PC at a time. So if you give yoru current PC to someone, you will need to buy a new copy for your new PC.

The OEM version has a further restriction that you can one use it for the PC you buy it for. So if you buy a new PC, technically you can't re-use the same Windows 7 you have for your old one. Now this is "technically" as I have not heard of any issues when people have moved their OEM licenses around from PC to PC.
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June 30, 2010 3:49:57 PM

To expand on what hang-the-9 said, though you cannot move an OEM version of Windows 7 from one computer to another, you can make changes to your current PC without losing Windows 7. If you make significant hardware changes to your computer, you may have to activate Windows again, but that will only require a quick phone call to Microsoft.

Cheers,
Cassandra
Microsoft Windows Outreach
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June 30, 2010 6:59:51 PM

Hello Purple_buzz,

I will tell you from first hand experience, all of my systems have been converted to Windows 7. I am not just saying it to say because I am affiliated with Microsoft. I can truly stand behind this product and tell you straight away it works very reliably, fast and extremely stable. The 64bit version is a real powerhouse as well.
Anyways, what to say about Windows 7?
There are several new features that are available with Windows 7 that will assist you with deployment and management of a large number of workstations. Enterprise IT infrastructures are increasingly complex to manage. The Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack (MDOP) is a dynamic desktop solution that is available as a subscription for Software Assurance customers. The solution suite enhances application deployment and compatibility, increases IT responsiveness and end user uptime, and helps reduce total cost of ownership (TCO) of your desktop software and IT management. To learn more about this package, please go here: bit.ly/KzkwM
Also now available is MDT 2010 (Microsoft Deployment Tool) which will help you create images and automate the OS and application installations, data migration, and desktop configuration process. To learn more, please go here: bit.ly/GZnEY
Microsoft does have an official Windows 7 Support Forum specifically for IT Pros located here http://tinyurl.com/7jq7ps . It is supported by product specialists as well as engineers and support teams. You may want to also check the threads available there for additional assistance and feedback.
Also, if you would like to read what other users have said about their positive experience with Windows 7, you may want to check out the following sites: http://tinyurl.com/5tfr8 and http://tinyurl.com/nsm3s

John M
Microsoft Windows Client Team



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June 30, 2010 7:32:21 PM

purple buzz said:
hey tree, thanks for your feedback. another question.

what is 1pk, 2pk mean? i read that it means you can only install an OS on 1 PC. is that true? so if say I buy another computer after already running windows 7 on my current one, give this computer (old one) to a friend. would that mean i would have to buy ANOTHER windows 7 in order to run it on my newer system? i dont get it..

ive used my XP disk that i have on the same system but i kept upgrading it so say a motherboard is different, hard drive, psu, ram, etc.. but it still worked even though it was all different computer parts.

The other posters are giving you good info. Since you are currently running XP, you should consider buying an upgrade version of Win7 instead of an OEM - that license is legal to transfer it to any number of other machines (you cannot run it on multiple machines simultaneously (you have to delete it from the old machine). I seached the MS site to determine the requirements for an upgrade license, and found (and saved to my HDD!) that you can use an upgrade version of Win7x64 to replace an installation of WinXPx86. The upgrade versions cost a little more than the OEM, I think I paid about $195 from a legitmate on-line vendor running a promotion on Win7x64 ultimate. I chose that route because MS is not stupid, and eventually it will find a way to hold OEM purchasers to the agreement to install OEM on only one machine, and the license dies when that machine dies.

Whatever you do, use a legitimate vendor - there are some sites that are clearly selling something other genuine Win7, if you see Win7x64 ultimate for <$115 USD, you can figure it's hacked, or worse, filled with malware.
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July 1, 2010 11:22:29 AM

Windows 7 x64 - welcome to the future, its the best MS OS ever created, Dont skimp, just get a retail version not OEM, its a far better use of license for a personal user who will want to use the license on a new PC in the future after UN-installing it on the old one, unlike the OEM which technically should die with the old PC and is non-transferable!!!

Also, whatever anyone says, Back your data up, get your application install disks ready and format drive and clean install. Trust me it is always the better option, i install Windows at least 5 times a week so i know!

I sell OEM to customers on Pre-Built machines to keep costs down, and Sell Retail Versions to them when Upgrading to Windows 7 for this reason specifically!!

Price Difference = neg-liable
benefits = Plenty!
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July 2, 2010 1:52:14 AM

I really dont understand this "buy 1 windows per computer" crap. you mean to tell me i cant even buy 7 for $150 and install it for a new PC that I buy for my uncle, then use it myself? I gotta spend $300 on 2 stupid windows to use them? I dont get it...

I used my XP on this PC, i handed out like 5 copies to friends and no one has ever had any problems with it.
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July 2, 2010 2:00:03 AM

purple buzz said:
I really dont understand this "buy 1 windows per computer" crap. you mean to tell me i cant even buy 7 for $150 and install it for a new PC that I buy for my uncle, then use it myself? I gotta spend $300 on 2 stupid windows to use them? I dont get it...

I used my XP on this PC, i handed out like 5 copies to friends and no one has ever had any problems with it.


You just admitted to piracy. I wouldn't advise doing so in the future.

When you purchase a copy of windows, you purchase a certain amount of licenses. You are legally allowed to install that license on a certain amount of PCs, at the same time.
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July 2, 2010 2:06:53 AM

aford10 said:
You just admitted to piracy. I wouldn't advise doing so in the future.

When you purchase a copy of windows, you purchase a certain amount of licenses. You are legally allowed to install that license on a certain amount of PCs, at the same time.


to be honest with you, i just found out about this pk1, 2, 3 etc.. i had no idea what that meant until i was planning on buying windows 7. to me, piracy always was when you go and buy a bootleg from someone. or worse, you ARE the bootlegger. that's some serious offense. but making a copy for your family member is like letting your friend borrow a music CD and he lets your borrow his. people nowadays act like you should each individually buy it instead of sharing your music collection.
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July 2, 2010 2:18:49 AM

Either way, the company who owns the rights (in this case, Microsoft), is being cheated out of license sales.

Music CDs don't come with license agreements or copyright protection. That's a whole 'nother ball game.
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July 3, 2010 7:01:41 PM

the more i find out about microsoft, the less i want to support them.

i just did some research and it turns out that you could only install windows 7 ONCE on your pc. if your hardware fails or harddrive dies, or you format a harddrive, and you try to install it again, you wont be able to. youll get a message like "you already installed it once" or some crap like that. then basically each time you install your windows, you will have to do a "telephone activation", in which you call some microsoft guy and have him activate your windows. what a load of crap. i am not going to waste my money, time, and minutes on windows 7.

i installed my windows xp like 20 times throughout the duration of my pc since i first built it. if you were to tell me each time i would have to call microsoft to do a new install, i wouldve never bought it.

microsoft never cease to amaze me with how greedy and deceiving they are. ill stick with xp.
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a b $ Windows 7
July 3, 2010 9:12:44 PM

The license activation between windows 7 and XP aren't any different. You can activate each a certain number of times, before you need to call the automated line to activate it. Even though it's only legally allowed to be installed on one PC at a time, Microsoft allows several activations before you have to call them. They do this for the exact reason you mentioned. They know that hardware fails, and users do upgrades.

The only license that can't be transferred to another PC, is an OEM license. It's tied to the original hardware that it was installed on (mainly the motherboard).
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July 3, 2010 9:18:40 PM

are you saying that retail version lets you transfer it to other PCs? thats $300-500 with a bunch of booklets and instructions i dont ever read.
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a b $ Windows 7
July 3, 2010 9:25:10 PM

Yes, you can transfer retail versions. If you have a single license copy, then you are supposed to remove it from one PC before activating it on another PC.
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July 3, 2010 9:40:44 PM

purple buzz said:
are you saying that retail version lets you transfer it to other PCs? thats $300-500 with a bunch of booklets and instructions i dont ever read.


No, that's $300 to buy one copy that you can move from PC to PC as you upgrade the computer, for as long as you want. If you buy an OEM copy, you are not allowed to move it. It is tied to that computer and you must buy another copy.

Just because you handed out copies of XP to friends and family and never had a problem, doesn't mean it's not illegal. What you were doing is basically the same as someone selling bootleg copies on the street corner. The only difference between you and the guy on the corner, is you are not making any money from it. Not profiting from distributing copies of Windows doesn't make you any less responsible for distributing software you are not allowed to distribute.

Now if you (and by this I mean you and only you, not you and X number of family members) have 2 or more computers that you wish to install Windows on, you might consider buying a subscription to TechNet. For $199 USD initially, and $149 to renew per year, you can get access to 10 licenses for each version of Windows XP, Vista, and 7, along with a large amount of other Microsoft software. This is by far a much better deal than buying individual Retail copies (the licenses provided through TechNet are Retail licenses, so they can be moved from PC to PC per my note above) for each computer. These licenses never expire. If you let the subscription lapse past 1 year and do not renew right away, the only thing that happens, is you lose access to view the keys you have requested, and you lose access to re-download the software if you need to do so.
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July 4, 2010 8:45:37 PM

The_Prophecy said:
Now if you (and by this I mean you and only you, not you and X number of family members) have 2 or more computers that you wish to install Windows on, you might consider buying a subscription to TechNet.


That's what I said 15 posts ago, but no-one was listening at the time... :pfff: 
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July 4, 2010 9:40:26 PM

So you did... I happen to agree completely :) .
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