Will ur card/system run 3d mark 05 ?

imgame · Sep 30, 2004

with 3dmark 05 out,many ppl have questions in their mind will their system run this benchmark ?
the answer is given on futuremark website with minimum system requirements they are :-

Minimum System requirements

* x86 compatible processor with MMX support, 2000MHz
* 512MB system memory
* 400MB of hard disk space
* DirectX9 generation graphics card with support for Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
* Microsoft Windows 2000 or XP operating system
* DirectX9.0c or later

and so crucial factor comes with a graphics cards with PS 2.0+support it is obvious that all the high end cards will have it(or else there is no use of this bechmark

) but what about low end cards? which cards support this feature!

i m writing all the cards that support this feature-- pixel shader (PS) 2.0+(easiest way to find out it whether ur card support DX 9.0 or not ?)

ATI:

VPU->pixel shader version supported

Radeon 9500 "I"->2.0
Radeon 9500 "L"->2.0
Radeon 9500 Pro->2.0
Radeon 9550 SE->2.0
Radeon 9550->2.0
Radeon 9550 XT->2.0
Radeon 9600 SE->2.0
Radeon 9600->2.0
Radeon 9600 Pro->2.0
AIW Radeon 9600 Pro->2.0
Radeon 9600XT->2.0
AIW Radeon 9600XT->2.0
Radeon 9700->2.0
Radeon 9700 Pro->2.0
AIW Radeon 9700 Pro->2.0
Radeon 9800 XL->2.0
Radeon 9800 SE 128-bit->2.0
Radeon 9800 SE 256-bits->2.0
Radeon 9800->2.0
Radeon 9800 Pro 128-bits->2.0
Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB->2.0
Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB->2.0
AIW Radeon 9800 Pro->2.0
Radeon 9800XT->2.0
Radeon X300->2.0
Radeon X300 SE->2.0
Radeon X600 Pro->2.0
Radeon X600 XT->2.0
Radeon X700->2.0b
Radeon X700 Pro->2.0b
Radeon X700 XT->2.0b
Radeon X800 SE->2.0b
Radeon X800 Pro->2.0b
Radeon X800 XT->2.0b
Radeon X800 XT PCIe->2.0b
Radeon X800 XT PE->2.0b

AIW=all in wonder

nVidia

GPU-> pixel shader version supported

GeForce FX 5200 SE/XT->2.0
GeForce FX 5200->2.0
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra->2.0
GeForce FX 5500->2.0
GeForce FX 5600 SE/XT->2.0
GeForce FX 5600->2.0
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra (Rev.1)->2.0
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra (Rev.2)->2.0
GeForce FX 5700 VE->2.0
GeForce FX 5700 LE->2.0
GeForce FX 5700->2.0
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra->2.0
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra (GDDR3)->2.0
GeForce FX 5800->2.0
GeForce FX 5800 Ultra->2.0
GeForce FX 5900 ZT->2.0
GeForce FX 5900 SE/XT->2.0
GeForce FX 5900->2.0
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra->2.0
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra->2.0
GeForce PCX 4300-> -
GeForce PCX 5300->2.0
GeForce PCX 5750->2.0
GeForce PCX 5900->2.0
GeForce PCX 5950->2.0
GeForce 6600->3.0
GeForce 6600 GT->3.0
GeForce 6800 LE->3.0
GeForce 6800->3.0
GeForce 6800 GT->3.0
GeForce 6800 Ultra->3.0
GeForce 6800 Ultra Extreme->3.0

PCX=PCI- Express version of cards

**offcourse all the onboard graphics don't have PS 2.0 or higher except for GMA 900 (supported by 915 Chipset on intel platform)
so

INTEL GMA 900-->2.0

and as far as concern goes to system RAM mostly for gaming systems have high system RAM but 3dmark 05 runs with 256MB of system RAM though at this point of time i can't tell what exactly is the performance difference!!

i m doomed!!!

Crashman · Sep 30, 2004

Wow, look at all that work. I would have just said "Radeon 9500 series or newer, GeForceFX 5200 series or newer"

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Sep 30, 2004

Not quite my fine feathered friend, although his list wouldn't work either.

Here's what you get on a P4 2.8gh HT w/ 512 DDR-333 with anf FX5200;

<A HREF="http://img40.exs.cx/img40/4176/3DMK05_NORUN.jpg" target="_new">*1*</A>

<A HREF="http://img40.exs.cx/img40/3082/3DMK05_UNSUP.jpg" target="_new">*2*</A>

Of course the thing that needs to be mentioned is that 64mb just won't cut it anymore.

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eden · Sep 30, 2004

Wow that is one shocking message by 3dMark!

A DX9 card user being played like that. :frown:

Not quite my fine feathered friend,

LOL, I've been using that sometimes! Ever since that Miracle Whip ad with Sylvester and Tweety Bird!

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eden · Sep 30, 2004

Can anyone even imagine what the GMA will yeild?

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Crashman · Sep 30, 2004

Is the Go5200 really even a 5200? Or did nVidia pull an ATI (9600 called Mobility 9700)? Anyway, doesn't 5200 have PS2.0?

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Crashman · Sep 30, 2004

Oh, and how do we know the problem wasn't caused by something else, such as insufficient RAM or VRAM?

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Crashman · Sep 30, 2004

I'm constipated. I drank some coffee because it makes me crap. Can you imagine what Java will yield?

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Sep 30, 2004

It is insufficient VRAM (FM stated that the minimum would be 128mb).

RAM is fine (512mb).

As for the FXGO5200, yeah it's an FX5200 core but clocked slow, and the memory is kind castrated. I'll run 3Dmk03 before going to bed.

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Sep 30, 2004

OK 3Dmk03 won't provide me with a compare link but here are the results (just cut and paste);



General Information
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP

DirectX Version 9.0c

Mobo Manufacturer

Mobo Model c

AGP Rates (Current/Available) 4x / 1x, 2x, 4x

CPU Unknown 0 MHz

FSB 0 MHz

Memory 512 MB

Display Information
Graphics Chipset NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200

Driver Name NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200

Driver Version 4.5.8.6

Driver Status WHQL - Not FM Approved

Video Memory 64 MB

Core Clock 196 MHz

Memory Clock 392 MHz

Sound Information
Sound Adapter Driver Name SigmaTel Audio

Sound Adapter Driver Version 6.14.1.3794

Benchmark Settings
Program Version 3DMark03 Revision 4 Build 0

Resolution 1024x768@32 bit

Texture Filtering Optimal

Pixel Processing / Antialiasing None

Post Processing false

Vertex Shaders Optimal

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 987 3DMarks

CPU Score 512 CPUMarks

Detailed Test Results

Game Tests
GT1 - Wings of Fury 73.9 fps

GT2 - Battle of Proxycon 4.0 fps

GT3 - Troll's Lair 3.7 fps

GT4 - Mother Nature 3.3 fps

CPU Tests
CPU Test 1 53.8 fps

CPU Test 2 9.7 fps

Feature Tests
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 587.1 MTexels/s

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 569.3 MTexels/s

Vertex Shader 3.8 fps

Pixel Shader 2.0 3.4 fps

Ragtroll 3.4 fps

Sound Tests
No sounds Not Supported

24 sounds Not Supported

60 sounds Not Supported



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TheGreatGrapeApe · Sep 30, 2004

And the info from the details section;


SystemInfo version 3.4
XSLT StyleSheet version 3.1-d

DirectX Info
Version 9.0c
Long Version 4.09.00.0904

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DirectDraw
Version 5.03.2600.2180
Primary Device NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200

Display Device 1/1
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 Driver 4.5.8.6

Description NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Total Local Video Memory 64 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 64 MB
Total AGP Memory 126 MB
Driver File nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 4.5.8.6
Driver Date 1-8-2004
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Texture Width 4096 px
Max Texture Height 4096 px
Max User Clipping Planes 6
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass 8
Vertex Shader Version 2.0
Pixel Shader Version 2.0
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 0
Max Texture Coordinates 8
VGA Memory Clock 391.5 MHz
VGA Core Clock 195.8 MHz
PCI
Name NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
Vendor ID 0x10de
Device ID 0x0324
SubSystem ID 0x015f1028
Revision ID 0xa1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Texture Formats
32-bit ARGB [8888]
32-bit RGB [888]
16-bit RGB [565]
16-bit RGB [555]
16-bit ARGB [1555]
16-bit ARGB [4444]
8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5]



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imgame · Sep 30, 2004

fx5200 ran for me and gave 216 of 3dmark 05 score,though my system RAM is just 256 MB DDR400

3 GHz/P4C800!

i m doomed!!!

GeneticWeapon · Sep 30, 2004

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 987 3DMarks

That cant be right...

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 1, 2004

Well the core is 50+ mhz slower than the regular FX5200(non-ultra). And I still haven't checked yet if it's 64bit memory or 128bit.

But the FX5200 never was very good with 3Dmk03, just look at the ULTRA's scores in the initial review;

<A HREF="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030311/geforcefx-5600-5200-15.html" target="_new">http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030311/geforcefx-5600-5200-15.html</A>

Not very impressive even for something clocked much faster 325/325 and definitely 128bit memory.

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eden · Oct 1, 2004

Yeah and not to mention this is a laptop, so no matter if 3dMark03 isn't too dependant on anything other than GPU, it will still lose some points compared to the desktop version.

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aLawLz187 · Oct 1, 2004

yea my friend got about the same thing with his computer.... 987... i laughed at him for about 8 weeks straight... and then he got a 9800 pro... talk about a performance leap 980 -> 5000.

i have to try running 3dmark05 again because my comp froze at the end of the balloonship creature one... ugh

-lawler

btw my friend had a p4 2.8c, asus p800se or something, albatron 5200, 512mb ram.

Athlon 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Kingston HyperX PC4000 [2x512]
ATI 9600 Pro [upgrade soon]
Sound Blaster Audigy LS
Samsung 120gb hdEdited by alawlz187 on 10/01/04 11:33 AM.

aLawLz187 · Oct 1, 2004

woohoo it worked now i get to enjoy the sweetness of 1408 3dmarks!!!!

1408 3dmarks
proxycon 6.6fps
firefly 3.7fps
canyon 7.3fps

cpu score 4188
test1 2.1fps
test2 3.8fps

awesome
-lawler

Athlon 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Kingston HyperX PC4000 [2x512]
ATI 9600 Pro [upgrade soon]
Sound Blaster Audigy LS
Samsung 120gb hd

TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 2, 2004

That AMD64 3500+ with 1GB PC4000 dual channel memory won't help you now!

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=22416" target="_new">http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=22416</A>

HEhe, you're slow! :tongue:

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aLawLz187 · Oct 2, 2004

hey wait look at ur cpu score... its what 1813 compared to my 4000+++

yea i had the money so i went with a cpu upgrade [from 2600+ tbred core on some crap mobo] now i just need a gfx card!

Athlon 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Kingston HyperX PC4000 [2x512]
ATI 9600 Pro [upgrade soon]
Sound Blaster Audigy LS
Samsung 120gb hd

TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 2, 2004

Have you tried OC'ing your R9600Pro?

Who makes it? Built By ATI or Powered By ATI?

Since you're so close to getting a new one give it a go.

As you can see from the link on the third try I was running 530/360 (gonna try for more tongight or tomorrow). If it's a Buily By Ati card, it's not uncommon to reach 500/350. However go slow from about 450/325 up. And if it's a card by someone else you may hit you limit well before that, so take it slow. However these are among some of the best overclocking on stock cooling cards around.

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aLawLz187 · Oct 2, 2004

heh i just oced it [before i read ur post] its BBA 9600pro... i only oced it a bit [~20mhz to 417 core, and 317 mem] ive put it up higher but my desktop went insane when i put it up past 430 for the core so i stopped trying that... yea so with a slight oc on my vid and cpu i got 1500 marks and 4300 cpu ones [2.3ghz]... ill try clocking it up that high cuz i dont really have anything to lose... and if it goes insane... well that will speed up the process of getting a new one

-lawler

Athlon 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Kingston HyperX PC4000 [2x512]
ATI 9600 Pro [upgrade soon]
Sound Blaster Audigy LS
Samsung 120gb hd

aLawLz187 · Oct 2, 2004

just put it up to 450/325... im using atitool... so its working fine then i load up 3dmark and it does the load up screen for the first test and its got all these horizontal lines and then it goes back to normal... then when it starts the first test everything went black... and i restarted it because it undoubtably froze... unless u run it with a black screen to get 1600marks

btw which drivers are you using and what oc tool?

-lawler

Athlon 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Kingston HyperX PC4000 [2x512]
ATI 9600 Pro [upgrade soon]
Sound Blaster Audigy LS
Samsung 120gb hd

TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 2, 2004

I am currently using Catalyst 4.9 drivers (I tend to mention it in my 3Dmktitles because I use so many).

The tools I use are varied, but for this I just used Rage3Dtweak, very simple to use, and I like it's other features.

I have gotten my best OCs with RadLinker's RadClocker. It was bundled with the Omega drivers before, but I didn't look to see if it still is (I usually bypass it when installing because I prefer the interface for Rage3Dtweak) I know OmegaDrive (maker of the Omegas) removed them for a bit and was planning on replacing them with something. When I get home I'll check either tonight or over the weekend.

BTW, try OC'ing your card while your CPU is at stock. Depending on your MOBO a CPU OC may adversley affect your card OCs, especially if there isn't a PCI-lock in the BIOS or by default.

As for my card it's all stock no volt mods or even HSF mods for now; when I replace it, that's probably a different story I have promised to mess quite a bit with it so we'll see, but I do want to give it to a friend of mine or maybe sell it to him for a case of Beer (probably Rickard's). Even the Xp2000+ is using the AMD stock cooler (thus the mild OC). As for my memory it's single channel DDR400 on a MOBO that actually performs better when it's clocked as DDR333.

I'm very surprised to see the Retail ATI R9600Pro not OC'ing well. When did you buy it? Man all the people I knew who bought them early on got at LEAST to 475 on their cores without artifacting (and really most broke 500).

Oh well maybe it doesn't like someting with the power in your system or it a bad chip (I say that just compared to all the other OCs, for stock it seems to do you fine, and is good for stock).

Well don't fry your card on my account. Play around, but if you get any serious artifacting shut it down. As for running 1600 in Black, nope, anytime I see artifacting of any kind I close the program and lower the clocks. and let it cool down with the case open.

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 2, 2004

Also don't push the Core and the Memory up at the same time, find the max for each seperately, then try moving them both together, starting from about 10+mhz below max on core and 5+mhz below max on memory. That's the best way to find what OC's well on the card.

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aLawLz187 · Oct 2, 2004

ok, ive never had good oc results with it so when i saw ur 500 or w/e core i had to see for myself. i bought the card in april or something... early spring of 03 [i think... been a while] yea and i hope i dont fry this card because my family's comp could use it [woohoo via pro savage266!!!!!!!!!... sorry it makes me so happy

]

-lawler

Athlon 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Kingston HyperX PC4000 [2x512]
ATI 9600 Pro [upgrade soon]
Sound Blaster Audigy LS
Samsung 120gb hd

Will ur card/system run 3d mark 05 ?

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