New Cards tested on OLD games/benchies

TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 15, 2004

Hardwareluxx takes a look at a bunch of cards on the OLD standards for benchmarking;

<A HREF="http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.hardwareluxx.de%2fcms%2fartikel.php%3faction%3dshow%26id%3d59%26seite%3d1" target="_new">Link of Review Translated from German</A>

From the looks of things just about every test on every platform is pretty much CPU limited with the latest card, with the changes in resolutions and IQ settings have very little impact at all since the cards never really dip much below 100fps avg, of course min fps may be a an important factor not addressed by this.

Also for these old games there's not so much a need to upgrade because even the GF6600/GT class of card (roughly equal to R9800P/FX5950U) has no trouble throughout the resolutions.

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priyajeet · Oct 15, 2004

OLD standards, pretty OLD, nobody uses them anyways. :lol:

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 15, 2004

True, but they aren't THAT old as to not be played.

Hey, my biggest personal pet peeve is people bitching about the bass-astard OLD original CS not working with their NextGeneration graphics card.

And I bet there are still alot of Q3 players still out there.

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priyajeet · Oct 15, 2004

<A HREF="http://www.planethalflife.com/potd/index.asp?id=476610" target="_new">this is what they ought to do</A>

they gotta switch to CS Source !!
its really good !

:tongue: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/priyajeet/fing.jpg" target="_new">Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.</A> :tongue:

rx7000 · Oct 16, 2004

Whats the big diffrence between the 6600 GT and the 6600 GDDR3?

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priyajeet · Oct 16, 2004

huh ?

GDDR3 is a memory std, not a name !
both 6600GT and 6600 have GDDR3.
GT has higher clock though.

:tongue: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/priyajeet/fing.jpg" target="_new">Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.</A> :tongue:

TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 16, 2004

I don't think you understand what he was saying.

The GF6600 is NOT supposed to have GDDR3, it's supposed to be primarily DDR and clocked pretty slow. Of course people like Gainward and BFG can always mess with the specs.

So if they have close to similar memory, 2.2ns vs 2.0 as an example, then I think RX7000 is asking what makes a GT a GT or What keeps that 6600 with good memory from being a GT when OC'd?

I don't think there is something like compression to change this. Therefore an equally clocked vanilla GF6600 would be the same as the GT.

However I would expect nV and it's partners to make GF6600 with far slower rated GDDR3 if they opt for it over DDR (NV43 also supports DDR2), and also they will likely bin the chips that don't quite cut it, and also provide the vanilla card with a poor HSF compared to it's GT brother.

I think that was the point of the question.

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GeneticWeapon · Oct 16, 2004

I bet there are still alot of Q3 players still out there.

I play tournament Q3 at the monthly lan parties I attend. I think I've even posted pictures of me here collecting prizes after I'd won.

There are only two games on my hard drive right now....and one of them is Q3.

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GeneticWeapon · Oct 16, 2004

Have you been able to run Vulpine Mark?

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eden · Oct 16, 2004

I honestly think the Nature test in 3DM2001 still looks realistic by today's standards. It was an amazing display of the DirectX 8 technology. Heck, the water effects in it still amaze me to this day.

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GeneticWeapon · Oct 16, 2004

You know what they say about small minds.....

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rx7000 · Oct 16, 2004

I asked because on the card list they have the following (And I wasnt sure as to the diffrence between them):

4 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT

8 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 - GDDR3

And the GeForce 6600 GT was scoring way higher than the 6600 GDDR3, and was wondering what the 6600 GT had going for it that was diffrent than the 6600 GDDR3.

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eden · Oct 16, 2004

....they grow?

:tongue:

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eden · Oct 16, 2004

You wanna go shack up in the back with Scammy and me, and then spam the OTHER forum with porn links?

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georgebeee · Oct 17, 2004

I think it was small feet....errr....I mean small nose

well, small something anyway

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 17, 2004

I haven't tried to run Vulpine recently, I did notice they had it as a benchie. I should try again, I sent a note to Terry when it first happened, maybe they addressed it after we gave up on it.

As for Q3, that's sorta the point. People still ove their old games, just like I like Archon.

BTW, I bought a <A HREF="http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/NAM2GA_TOYS.htm" target="_new">'console'</A>. I can post a pic if you want. I just thought, Cool that's awesome for only $20CDN I bought it for the game that starts with 'G' I played it all the time.

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 17, 2004

Yep, that's exactly why I wasn't impressed by FartCry, there wasn't much that impressed me above Morrind's effects. I still think DX8/8.1 was a far biggere leap from DX7 than anything we've seen since then. But then again maybe we are FAR from using everything available, although Morrowind came out shortly after DX8.1 so really it's patch 1.3 that better so something impressive or else it's just a small leap, and alot less than we expected IMO.

Of course rthdribl is damn impressive and I've not seen anything since that makes me think it's better game or demo.

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pauldh · Oct 17, 2004

I have the first Namco Pacman game. Was looking at the MS. Pacman too. Hope MS. Pacman is better than the PAcman as pacman just gets faster, but the levels (maze) never changes. But Bostonian and Ralley-X make up for it. Mine has Galaxian, but unfortunely not Galaga.

Sure comes in handy to take it anywhere. The kids even play it in the minivan. I just wish they would up the quality even if it doubled the price. Let me know how you like the version 2.

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pauldh · Oct 17, 2004

Holy smokes Grape, what is up with those prices. Those things are $18.xx at <A HREF="http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2696970" target="_new">Walmart</A> every day. $41.23 = ouch.

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 17, 2004

Well so far I've played about 6 MsPac-Man runs and like it (remember that MS Pac-man is also random, unlike the predicatble PacMan), Galaga is as fun as I remember it, and the reason I bought it, love having the twin ships. Xevious is also nice. Pole Position isn't working right, I can't get it to turn left/right it just drives straight. Mappy is crap!

Overall worth the $19.99 I payed for it at EB Games (also pre-purchased HL2 DVD [$5 down]).

I'm thinking of taking the MsPacMan to work, we already have an X-box there, but really, Galaga!

Yeah I couldn't believe those prices on that UK website site. But that was probably at release date.

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pauldh · Oct 17, 2004

Galaga is much better than Galaxian. Enjoy it. Does MS. Pacman rotate/change mazes, or haven't you cleared a screen yet? :lol: Pacman, it's just the same exact maze over and over and over.

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pauldh · Oct 17, 2004

There are only two games on my hard drive right now....and one of them is Q3

That's just pathetic GW. Erase all that trashy porn and get some games on that there box of yours. :tongue:

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eden · Oct 17, 2004

I should remind you GW has PMS right now, this may not go right with him.

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eden · Oct 17, 2004

You actually put old electronic games in your minivan for the kids?

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pauldh · Oct 17, 2004

thx for the warning on GW.

I'm surprised how playable that Namco is on the van's little 7" LCD. It only gets used on long trips, like the 10 hour drive to the Inlaws house. And yes(I know where you were going), I use an old console sort of thingy even! Imagine that? But hey, it's easy to hook up and it works.

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