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BIG Difference between 6800 OC and 6800 GT?

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October 18, 2004 11:49:23 PM

talk to me....I found a BFG 6800 OC for $250, and an ASUS 6800 GT for $340, so which is the better call? is there THA MUCH of a difference between these two? I'm guessing not, since the 6800 OC is overclocked out of the box...but idunno. thoughts?

I was originally going to get a R9800 Pro for like $230 retail, then foun this BFG overclocked 6800 for $250 so stopped looking at the 9800 Pro....now I've heard amazing things about the 6800 GT, but dont know if its a big difference from the OC'd 6800...
a b U Graphics card
October 19, 2004 12:24:11 AM

4 pipes different.

GF6800 has 12 pixel pipelines, GT has 16.

Want to see benchies similar to what you're talking about (and OC'd GF6800 against a GT), check the results from Digit-Life;

<A HREF="http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-7.html" target="_new">http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-7.html&lt;/A>


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October 19, 2004 12:38:51 AM

remind me never to go to digit-life for product reviews.

honestly, who makes a review of benchmarking with absolutely NO numbers (aka FACTS) and just blabbers on with subjective "this card is parity" crap.

totally worthless.

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a b U Graphics card
October 19, 2004 12:48:15 AM

Duh!

Click benchie's links, there are numbers are beyond.

<A HREF="http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-7-ss.html" target="_new">Example of first Serious Sam link</A>

Doing this allows them to return to their original 1 page review format without having 14-20 pages to hunt through.

And their reviews are among the very best out there showing far more than most.

Don't criticize something until you know how to use it. Jeez-Louise! :tongue: :lol:  :tongue:

BTW, I can always remind you if you still need that. :wink:


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a b U Graphics card
October 19, 2004 2:38:54 AM

I thought the 6800 had 8, GT 12, and Ultra 16?

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a b U Graphics card
October 19, 2004 2:48:18 AM

Nope, GT is 16 (reason it bests the X800Pro [12pipes] most times), and the GF6800 is 12, and GF6800LE (& SE?) has 8 pipes

Of course the GF6600 series also has 8 pipes.


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October 19, 2004 9:59:42 AM

you can softmod a 6800 128ddr1 12pipline to 16 which i have done it works a treat but still slightly under the gt 6800 which has 256mb ddr3.

but good value for money if ur streched. i got a galaxy 6800 128mb. this company was in close quarters with nvidia during testing of the 6800 at the beginning, and was told there is a high success rate to softmad these cards thats why i got 1. it beats the BFG 6800 OC in my experience.

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I would personnally recommend any GT 6800 over a 6800 12 pipline.

the gt6800 offers best bang for buck for high end grfx users its also better than the x800pro. but the x800xt pe is the best.

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a b U Graphics card
October 19, 2004 6:54:29 PM

Yeah the SoftMod is nice, but right now it's far more rare than even the X800Pro mods out there.

But it's nice you were able to do it.

The problem for most, is that if it doesn't work, you're left with a GF6800, which is only slightly better than an R9800PRO/XT of the previous generation (not $250 better).

Yep, the GT is the way to go in this case.


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October 19, 2004 8:53:21 PM

so I'm thinking that my 6800 OC isnt that much behind the GT? hmmm....
October 19, 2004 8:57:45 PM

this GT?

ASUS nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "V9999GT/TD/128" -RETAIL

Model# V9999GT/TD/128
Item # N82E16814121177

Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT/350MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/700MHz
BUS: AGP 4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out(S-Video/Composite) + DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9.0c(Shader Model 3.0), OpenGL 1.5
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
Cable/Accessories: S-Video/Composite Cable, CD SUITE, DVI to VGA adaptor, Manual, Driver CD
Retail Box (See pics for details)

$344
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October 19, 2004 9:25:15 PM

The Asus is the only version I've seen that has 128Mb memory; I would go ahead and spend a little more on a 256Mb version. Otherwise you could spend less by getting a plain 6800 and try to softmod it to 16 pipes.

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October 19, 2004 10:16:46 PM

it also looks like it doesnot say anything about DDR3 in the details....
a b U Graphics card
October 20, 2004 1:18:57 AM

OC is good for low resolution, especially for older games.

Raise the resolution and details, and the GT clearly pulls ahead.

The questions is whether or not it's worth it for you depending on what you play, and what settings you'll be most accustomed to.

Likely wouldn't make much of a difference to someone with a 1280x1024 LCD, or 17"CRT. But if you can pish lotsa pixels, then you have to decide what settings you want to push, and whether any difference in money you can put elsewhere (games, parts, beer, etc.).

The ASUS GT is a nice card. Be sure to check prices on pricewatch/pricegrabber etc.


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October 20, 2004 4:13:58 PM

this GT card I found has only 128MB, AND says nothing about it being DDR3. Most GT's are going for over $400, so why is this ASUS one $340 retail? It's making me nervous, so I'm leaning towards just going with the BFG 6800 OC....not sure though...I'm playing SWG almost exclusively...but who knows in the future...probably Battlefield 2...
October 20, 2004 5:34:42 PM

heyas pdxgamer1;

The reason the Asus card is cheaper is exactly as you say, it only has 128MB of video memory, all other 6800GT from other companies that im aware of use 256MB of video memory.

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October 20, 2004 11:01:26 PM

<takes foot out of mouth>

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October 21, 2004 3:51:27 PM

Maximum did a match up between asus's 6800 gt and XFX 6800 gt and the asus got pulled on by significant strides.

Asus v9999 Gamer Edition / XFX Geforce 6800 GT
3dmark Overall 9,756 / 10,998
Halo 45.1 / 54.4
Doom 3 Demo 1 66.3 / 74.1

XFX wins in every catagory. I know some people here dont think much of maximmum, but I dont have a lap top so its the next best thing to forums when your on the throne =Q

Hope the info helped.

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a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2004 8:42:14 PM

BTW, that's the ASUS GE, not GT. :wink:

But yeah I saw that too, I just wish they had more info on their site you could link to.

I liked their CoolerMaster Centurion review, I'm deciding between that and the Staker. I think their - section on it was lame (lame builders have trouble making things work).


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