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Anonymous
May 22, 2005 12:27:04 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

Hello fellow members, :-)

This is a very troublesome and puzzling problem, so please bear with me. I
have contacted HP telephone support and they cannot help me as they have
never heard of this problem.

My computer is running Windows XP Home Edition SP2. I am NOT connected to
ANY network. All available Windows XP updates are installed. There are no
spyware or viruses, and my computer has never had any. Norton Internet
Security Professional 2004 is installed.

My printer is a brand new Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 2610 multifunction
(all-in-one) printer with HP Image Zone photo software installed. All
applicable HP driver and software updates are installed.

MY PRINTER IS CONNECTED TO MY COMPUTER VIA A USB CABLE. I HAVE A CHIICONY
CORDLESS KEYBOARD AND MOUSE CONNECTED TO THE COMPUTER BY ONE USB CABLE. I
think the USB connection is part of the problem.

When ever I want to print anything (any type of file) it is not printed,
meaning nothing is printed. I have a hunch this is because the file is not
being sent to the printer.

There is another problem which I think is related. When I am using my
computer the USB Keyboard and mouse freeze. This can happen at anytime and
when using any software program. The computer then becomes very slow and
unresponsive. To get the keyboard and mouse to unfreeze I have to unplug
their USB cable and plug it into a DIFFERENT USB plug. If I plug it into the
original USB plug it will not unfreeze. But several minutes later the USB
keyboard and mouse will freeze again. So I unplug its cable and plug it into
a third USB plug, but again several minutes later the USB keyboard and mouse
freezes. I have tried all 6 USB plugs on my computer and still it freezes.
When I plug the keyboard and mouse USB cable into the USB plugs which have
previously frozen it will not work.

When the USB keyboard and mouse freeze the only thing I can do is to restart
the computer. But now the computer is very slow. It slowly logs off, but
gets half way through shutting down and then freezes. Then I have to press
the restart button on the front of the computer. Restarting the computer
works however. After I log back on I am able to print normally and the USB
keyboard and mouse does not freeze.

Here's the clincher. Restarting the computer also PREVENTS the problem
from happening!! So, whenever I turn on my computer I am taken to the
welcome screen. I then restart my computer and then log on. No more
problem!!!

I am not using and have never used a USB hub. There are only two USB
connections on my computer, the printer and the keyboard and mouse.

I have checked my motherboard settings with HP telephone support, and as far
as I am aware, the settings are correct.

I have heard that USB Plug n Play devices (those which have no software or
drivers), such as my keyboard, can cause conflict with USB devices which do
require drivers and software to function, such as the printer. Can this be
part of the problem? HP say, as far as they are aware, there is no such
conflict.

Can anybody help me? Am I doomed to restarting my computer every time I
start it?

Cheers, Techno Phobe.
Anonymous
May 22, 2005 11:58:42 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

Hi,

Have you considered trying a powered hub? It may be that the power draw from
the combination of devices is exceeding the limits of the motherboard's
ports. If this is the case, a powered hub would help.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Techno Phobe" <TechnoPhobe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B482576-64A7-4DFE-9C45-9E26B771BD77@microsoft.com...
> Hello fellow members, :-)
>
> This is a very troublesome and puzzling problem, so please bear with me.
> I
> have contacted HP telephone support and they cannot help me as they have
> never heard of this problem.
>
> My computer is running Windows XP Home Edition SP2. I am NOT connected to
> ANY network. All available Windows XP updates are installed. There are
> no
> spyware or viruses, and my computer has never had any. Norton Internet
> Security Professional 2004 is installed.
>
> My printer is a brand new Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 2610 multifunction
> (all-in-one) printer with HP Image Zone photo software installed. All
> applicable HP driver and software updates are installed.
>
> MY PRINTER IS CONNECTED TO MY COMPUTER VIA A USB CABLE. I HAVE A
> CHIICONY
> CORDLESS KEYBOARD AND MOUSE CONNECTED TO THE COMPUTER BY ONE USB CABLE. I
> think the USB connection is part of the problem.
>
> When ever I want to print anything (any type of file) it is not printed,
> meaning nothing is printed. I have a hunch this is because the file is
> not
> being sent to the printer.
>
> There is another problem which I think is related. When I am using my
> computer the USB Keyboard and mouse freeze. This can happen at anytime
> and
> when using any software program. The computer then becomes very slow and
> unresponsive. To get the keyboard and mouse to unfreeze I have to unplug
> their USB cable and plug it into a DIFFERENT USB plug. If I plug it into
> the
> original USB plug it will not unfreeze. But several minutes later the USB
> keyboard and mouse will freeze again. So I unplug its cable and plug it
> into
> a third USB plug, but again several minutes later the USB keyboard and
> mouse
> freezes. I have tried all 6 USB plugs on my computer and still it
> freezes.
> When I plug the keyboard and mouse USB cable into the USB plugs which have
> previously frozen it will not work.
>
> When the USB keyboard and mouse freeze the only thing I can do is to
> restart
> the computer. But now the computer is very slow. It slowly logs off, but
> gets half way through shutting down and then freezes. Then I have to
> press
> the restart button on the front of the computer. Restarting the computer
> works however. After I log back on I am able to print normally and the
> USB
> keyboard and mouse does not freeze.
>
> Here's the clincher. Restarting the computer also PREVENTS the problem
> from happening!! So, whenever I turn on my computer I am taken to the
> welcome screen. I then restart my computer and then log on. No more
> problem!!!
>
> I am not using and have never used a USB hub. There are only two USB
> connections on my computer, the printer and the keyboard and mouse.
>
> I have checked my motherboard settings with HP telephone support, and as
> far
> as I am aware, the settings are correct.
>
> I have heard that USB Plug n Play devices (those which have no software or
> drivers), such as my keyboard, can cause conflict with USB devices which
> do
> require drivers and software to function, such as the printer. Can this
> be
> part of the problem? HP say, as far as they are aware, there is no such
> conflict.
>
> Can anybody help me? Am I doomed to restarting my computer every time I
> start it?
>
> Cheers, Techno Phobe.
>
Anonymous
May 22, 2005 1:07:52 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

i agree, try using a USB hub. The other area to look at is the drivers.
Make sure you've d/loaded the latest drivers for the Motherboard USB
and the Printer.

You can go some way to proving it by temporarily beg/borrow/steal a PS2
mouse and keyboard and only having the printer on USB.

When the printer fails to print, have a look int he Print Queue for the
printer (Start>Settings?> Printersand Faxes> then d/ left click the
printer to see the spooler queue). Either the job is sitting there not
moving cos it thinks the printers offline/not connected, or it thinks
its sent it, oblivious to the fact theres no response back.


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Anonymous
May 22, 2005 11:51:03 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

Thanks for your help Rick, :-)

Interesting idea. If the power draw is exceeding the limits of the
motherboards ports, why then does restarting the computer rectify the
problem? Shouldn't the power draw happen every time the computer boots up?

Can I increase the power limits of the motherboards ports by changing the
applicable settings on the motherboard?

Just me thinking out loud. Thank you for your insight to this annoying
mystery!!!

Cheers, Techno Phobe.

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Have you considered trying a powered hub? It may be that the power draw from
> the combination of devices is exceeding the limits of the motherboard's
> ports. If this is the case, a powered hub would help.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Techno Phobe" <TechnoPhobe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B482576-64A7-4DFE-9C45-9E26B771BD77@microsoft.com...
> > Hello fellow members, :-)
> >
> > This is a very troublesome and puzzling problem, so please bear with me.
> > I
> > have contacted HP telephone support and they cannot help me as they have
> > never heard of this problem.
> >
> > My computer is running Windows XP Home Edition SP2. I am NOT connected to
> > ANY network. All available Windows XP updates are installed. There are
> > no
> > spyware or viruses, and my computer has never had any. Norton Internet
> > Security Professional 2004 is installed.
> >
> > My printer is a brand new Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 2610 multifunction
> > (all-in-one) printer with HP Image Zone photo software installed. All
> > applicable HP driver and software updates are installed.
> >
> > MY PRINTER IS CONNECTED TO MY COMPUTER VIA A USB CABLE. I HAVE A
> > CHIICONY
> > CORDLESS KEYBOARD AND MOUSE CONNECTED TO THE COMPUTER BY ONE USB CABLE. I
> > think the USB connection is part of the problem.
> >
> > When ever I want to print anything (any type of file) it is not printed,
> > meaning nothing is printed. I have a hunch this is because the file is
> > not
> > being sent to the printer.
> >
> > There is another problem which I think is related. When I am using my
> > computer the USB Keyboard and mouse freeze. This can happen at anytime
> > and
> > when using any software program. The computer then becomes very slow and
> > unresponsive. To get the keyboard and mouse to unfreeze I have to unplug
> > their USB cable and plug it into a DIFFERENT USB plug. If I plug it into
> > the
> > original USB plug it will not unfreeze. But several minutes later the USB
> > keyboard and mouse will freeze again. So I unplug its cable and plug it
> > into
> > a third USB plug, but again several minutes later the USB keyboard and
> > mouse
> > freezes. I have tried all 6 USB plugs on my computer and still it
> > freezes.
> > When I plug the keyboard and mouse USB cable into the USB plugs which have
> > previously frozen it will not work.
> >
> > When the USB keyboard and mouse freeze the only thing I can do is to
> > restart
> > the computer. But now the computer is very slow. It slowly logs off, but
> > gets half way through shutting down and then freezes. Then I have to
> > press
> > the restart button on the front of the computer. Restarting the computer
> > works however. After I log back on I am able to print normally and the
> > USB
> > keyboard and mouse does not freeze.
> >
> > Here's the clincher. Restarting the computer also PREVENTS the problem
> > from happening!! So, whenever I turn on my computer I am taken to the
> > welcome screen. I then restart my computer and then log on. No more
> > problem!!!
> >
> > I am not using and have never used a USB hub. There are only two USB
> > connections on my computer, the printer and the keyboard and mouse.
> >
> > I have checked my motherboard settings with HP telephone support, and as
> > far
> > as I am aware, the settings are correct.
> >
> > I have heard that USB Plug n Play devices (those which have no software or
> > drivers), such as my keyboard, can cause conflict with USB devices which
> > do
> > require drivers and software to function, such as the printer. Can this
> > be
> > part of the problem? HP say, as far as they are aware, there is no such
> > conflict.
> >
> > Can anybody help me? Am I doomed to restarting my computer every time I
> > start it?
> >
> > Cheers, Techno Phobe.
> >
>
>
>
Anonymous
May 23, 2005 9:47:53 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

Hi,

The draw may not be that great until the port is actually used, hence no
problem when booting. Use of any port will dramatically increase power
requirements. This is a physical limitation, no BIOS setting can alter this.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Techno Phobe" <TechnoPhobe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DE6A989-6F4B-46BF-BB3D-45CDA3BD75A8@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your help Rick, :-)
>
> Interesting idea. If the power draw is exceeding the limits of the
> motherboards ports, why then does restarting the computer rectify the
> problem? Shouldn't the power draw happen every time the computer boots
> up?
>
> Can I increase the power limits of the motherboards ports by changing the
> applicable settings on the motherboard?
>
> Just me thinking out loud. Thank you for your insight to this annoying
> mystery!!!
>
> Cheers, Techno Phobe.
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Have you considered trying a powered hub? It may be that the power draw
>> from
>> the combination of devices is exceeding the limits of the motherboard's
>> ports. If this is the case, a powered hub would help.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Techno Phobe" <TechnoPhobe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6B482576-64A7-4DFE-9C45-9E26B771BD77@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello fellow members, :-)
>> >
>> > This is a very troublesome and puzzling problem, so please bear with
>> > me.
>> > I
>> > have contacted HP telephone support and they cannot help me as they
>> > have
>> > never heard of this problem.
>> >
>> > My computer is running Windows XP Home Edition SP2. I am NOT connected
>> > to
>> > ANY network. All available Windows XP updates are installed. There
>> > are
>> > no
>> > spyware or viruses, and my computer has never had any. Norton Internet
>> > Security Professional 2004 is installed.
>> >
>> > My printer is a brand new Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 2610 multifunction
>> > (all-in-one) printer with HP Image Zone photo software installed. All
>> > applicable HP driver and software updates are installed.
>> >
>> > MY PRINTER IS CONNECTED TO MY COMPUTER VIA A USB CABLE. I HAVE A
>> > CHIICONY
>> > CORDLESS KEYBOARD AND MOUSE CONNECTED TO THE COMPUTER BY ONE USB CABLE.
>> > I
>> > think the USB connection is part of the problem.
>> >
>> > When ever I want to print anything (any type of file) it is not
>> > printed,
>> > meaning nothing is printed. I have a hunch this is because the file is
>> > not
>> > being sent to the printer.
>> >
>> > There is another problem which I think is related. When I am using my
>> > computer the USB Keyboard and mouse freeze. This can happen at anytime
>> > and
>> > when using any software program. The computer then becomes very slow
>> > and
>> > unresponsive. To get the keyboard and mouse to unfreeze I have to
>> > unplug
>> > their USB cable and plug it into a DIFFERENT USB plug. If I plug it
>> > into
>> > the
>> > original USB plug it will not unfreeze. But several minutes later the
>> > USB
>> > keyboard and mouse will freeze again. So I unplug its cable and plug
>> > it
>> > into
>> > a third USB plug, but again several minutes later the USB keyboard and
>> > mouse
>> > freezes. I have tried all 6 USB plugs on my computer and still it
>> > freezes.
>> > When I plug the keyboard and mouse USB cable into the USB plugs which
>> > have
>> > previously frozen it will not work.
>> >
>> > When the USB keyboard and mouse freeze the only thing I can do is to
>> > restart
>> > the computer. But now the computer is very slow. It slowly logs off,
>> > but
>> > gets half way through shutting down and then freezes. Then I have to
>> > press
>> > the restart button on the front of the computer. Restarting the
>> > computer
>> > works however. After I log back on I am able to print normally and the
>> > USB
>> > keyboard and mouse does not freeze.
>> >
>> > Here's the clincher. Restarting the computer also PREVENTS the
>> > problem
>> > from happening!! So, whenever I turn on my computer I am taken to the
>> > welcome screen. I then restart my computer and then log on. No more
>> > problem!!!
>> >
>> > I am not using and have never used a USB hub. There are only two USB
>> > connections on my computer, the printer and the keyboard and mouse.
>> >
>> > I have checked my motherboard settings with HP telephone support, and
>> > as
>> > far
>> > as I am aware, the settings are correct.
>> >
>> > I have heard that USB Plug n Play devices (those which have no software
>> > or
>> > drivers), such as my keyboard, can cause conflict with USB devices
>> > which
>> > do
>> > require drivers and software to function, such as the printer. Can
>> > this
>> > be
>> > part of the problem? HP say, as far as they are aware, there is no
>> > such
>> > conflict.
>> >
>> > Can anybody help me? Am I doomed to restarting my computer every time
>> > I
>> > start it?
>> >
>> > Cheers, Techno Phobe.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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