9600xt 256mb ddr

driftking · Nov 3, 2004

I am currently running a P4 1.5ghz and 512mb of sd ram, with a intel mobo that has agp 4x...

I have recently been offered a ATI Radeon 9600xt for sale (the 256mb ddr model, not the 128) and I was wondering, if I were to buy this and run it on my pc, could I play newish games such as Doom on medium settings or Farcry etc?

All help is greatly apreciated.

priyajeet · Nov 3, 2004

yes u can.
but dont get hopes too high.

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driftking · Nov 3, 2004

<<yes u can.
but dont get hopes too high.>>

Why is that?

Blasphemy · Nov 3, 2004

Because the 9600 series is a budget gamer card and nothing more. You can expect playable frame rates, but don't expect to run doom at high resolutions

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driftking · Nov 3, 2004

I plan to run at 1024x768, with this and my system, can I play Doom 3 and far cry good?

Thanks btw.

GeneticWeapon · Nov 3, 2004

Because the 9600 series is a budget gamer card and nothing more.

STFU.

The 9600 series was an excellent mid-range card. It hasnt been untill recently(since the price drop in 9800 series) that it really isnt condidered to be a midrange card anymore.

Budget card's are 9200's and 5200's noob.

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Blasphemy · Nov 3, 2004

exactly, with the price drop of the 9800 it IS a budget gamer card.

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GeneticWeapon · Nov 3, 2004

Dear noob, the price of these card's hasnt reached budget status yet. Like I said, the 9200/5200 are actually considered to be budget card's.

kthxdie

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Blasphemy · Nov 3, 2004

Dude you need to calm down...I said budget GAMER card, not budget card. For a gamer a 9600 will give you good preformance, but not near what you can get for a couple hundred more, hence as a gamer, it is in the budget catagory.

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GeneticWeapon · Nov 3, 2004

My penis died. Can I bury it in your ass?

Remember when you were addicted to cock....and I was your dealer?

Do I need to stick my dick in your ear, so you can hear where I'm coming from?

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driftking · Nov 3, 2004

Well my question is if it I can play games such as doom 3, facry at 1024x768 on a 9600xt with a p41.5?

GeneticWeapon · Nov 3, 2004

Yes, you will be able to. But at medium settings more than high.

Others here, like The GreatGrapeApe have 9600 series card's, and would be much more capable of answering your question accurately.

Sorry if I crapped in your thread.

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driftking · Nov 3, 2004

Thankyou GeneticWeapon for your help, you have been very helpful

driftking · Nov 3, 2004

Just a quick question.

Is there an email or pm page where I can contact GreatGrapeApe?

pauldh · Nov 3, 2004

After putting the 9600XT into your system, It's your CPU and Ram that will be the bottleneck. CPU/ram is going to limit Doom 3 more for you than a R9600XT will. Think about it, your at minimum spec for Doom 3 CPU wise and the 9600XT is far above minimum spec. A P4 1.5 running with SDR is not much faster than a P3 1.0GHz or TBird 1.2GHz running SDR.

Anyway, The 9600XT is still a decent capable card. "Don't expect too much" is a valid comment but should have been directed at the cpu/ram and not the 9600XT.

As far as farcry, I know personally I've tried it on a TBird 1.2GHz KT133 PC133 machine with various cards. I didn't even find a 9800 Pro to play smooth in that system at modest settings whereas on a fast system it plays just fine. Framerates were too up and down on the slow system.

That said, what video card do you have now & how much is the 9600XT? If the price is right and you have a slow card now, then go for it. In games that play on sub 1.0GHz machines you should get decent performance out of that radeon.

ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 1GB Corsair XMS 4000 Pro Series, Radeon 9800 Pro, Santa Cruz, TruePower 430wattEdited by Pauldh on 11/03/04 08:49 AM.

pauldh · Nov 3, 2004

<A HREF="http://www.gamespot.com/features/6104596/p-4.html" target="_new">Quick link</A> to support my last post: Note that with a P4 @ 1.6GHz on DDR memory, the 9600XT performs equal to the 9800 Pro and 6800U at 800x600 medium. Forget 1024x768. And on SDR P4's will be much slower even.

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driftking · Nov 3, 2004

Thanks for your detailed post Daul

I currently have a GeForce 2 mx400, 64mb :|

So any car will be a vast improvement

The 9600xt is 2 months old and is only $135usd, new is $266usd.

I can only afford to buy second hand if I want to get a good card.

There is also a Albatron Geforce FX 5900 XTV for sale, thats second hand also but $181.241 USD.

Am I better of spending the extra dough for the 5900, but this means I wont be able to afford additional ram.

Thanks in advance

pauldh · Nov 3, 2004

In the USA, neither of those are good prices for a used card!

New ones can be found for that price now. Don't let original list prices fool you, that is not a $266 card. Anyone claiming that is ripping you off. Even the AIW Radeon 9600XT(nice card) is available for well under $200. A 9800 Pro is available for under $200 also and was once a $400 card. And no, IMO the 5900XT is not worth the extra money for you either. Not at all.

Also even though D3 seems to show a benifit with 256MB cards at high detail settings, and on faster systems, It is generally considered to be worth nothing over the 128MB versions.

Anyway, 9600pro or XT priced right would be good for you. if you want to save money on a used card, grab a GF4Ti4200/4400/4600 cheap. That would be a good match for your system and those can be found for $35-50 used.

That's all my opinion anyway; Daul

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Kieran_Fletcher · Nov 3, 2004

Replacing a GeForce 2 MX400 64 Meg card with a 9600TX; I did the same thing a couple of months ago. I’m rather impressed with the 9600XT; although I got the 128 Meg version, and moved from a K7 classic 500 MHz processor to a XP 2500+ processor with half a gig of RAM so my performance increase is not completely due to the video card. By the way I only paid $145 for my card and it was a new retail box version that came with Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield. $266 is way too high. If I were upgrading now I’d save up for a 9800 PRO.

driftking · Nov 4, 2004

Thanks for that, I am currently looking into a new motherboard/ram/cpu/gf card replacement for my pc so it will be alot better.

TheGreatGrapeApe · Nov 4, 2004

Howdy, I was in WinterPeg on Business for 3 days, sorry I didn't get to the forum until today, and still trying to catch up. (EDEN, I will post a pic of the Dell Laptop being used on AirCanada's new 110V/60Hz plug in [no adapters needed anymore {dang already bought ONE!

}], nothing sexy, just watching 'Dead Like Me').

As for your question, yes you should be able to handle D3 and 'FartCry' OK. Your System will likely hold you back slightly (but that would be the same for any card). The R9600series is likely very well matched for your current setup and even to slight upgrades. Higher settings would not only push your card, but also stress the limits of your CPU/Memory (is that DDR SD or just ancient PC1xx SD?). 1024x768 in D3 should be a breeze for medium settings for the card (I run my R9600Pro @ 1280x1024 medium on an XP2000+), the only thing I'm not sure about is the CPU, since most of the reviews of the min. CPU requirement were also coupled with the minimum VPU/GPU requirement.

When I'm done here at work (about 30 mins) I'll go home and underclock my FSB (to emulate a 'weakened system) and try my pro running at 500/300 (to emulate the R9600XT). Of course the 256mb may help a tiny bit, but at these low settings I doubt the impact would be that large.

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GeneticWeapon · Nov 4, 2004

Sweet.

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Nov 4, 2004

Yep I'm leaving now (well in 5 mins [gotta clean-up]), so hopefully I can post shortly thereafter. And I'll post the PIC then too.

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Edited by TheGreatGrapeApe on 11/03/04 07:39 PM.

blackphoenix77 · Nov 4, 2004

LMAO! Great comebacks Genetic.

I can play Doom3 at 800x600 Medium Quality at about 40-50fps and I can play FarCry at 1024x768 High Quality and get about 50-60FPS.

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GeneticWeapon · Nov 4, 2004

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