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TheGreatGrapeApe
I think Vapor and Cleeve are both right and wrong.
ATI's naming convention has not survived the R9800 to X800 transition.
The R9700TX and R9800XL are lesser versions than the R9700/9800PRO cards involving either lower clocks (TX) or 1/2 the memory bus bandwidth (XL); but in the X800 series the X800XL is definitely better (unless moding is involved) than the X800PRO (even the X8500PRO IIRC).
IT's a little confusing, but it appears that everyone has this problem (remember there are 2 different kinds of GF6800LE cards one good one terrible). And remember that the R9800series doesn't have an XL for actual ATI cards, it's only Sapphire and Powercrapper who use that nomenclature.
I'd say use Vapor's list for the R9xxx series and Cleeve's (& PF's) list for the X8xx series.
I know that doesn't make it easier, but it should at least give you the yardstick by which to judge things.
- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK 
Yeah I know it's not an 'official' abreviation, but John Q Pu-Bic ain't gonna know that.
Just like the GF6800LE(s) it'll cause confusion because of that very deviation from the norm.
Anywhoo, just thought I'd point that out, that there are alot of 'unusual' situations to keep an eye on, because he'd go based on your official list, but be buying an R9800XL, which isn't on any official ATI list, and the end result would be the same dissapointment, like at the PRO-Lite / PRO-EZ owners.
BTW, it's Sapphire that uses the XL, PowerCrapper uses the PE (yes, Platinum Edition) actually, which is even worse for the whole naming confusion if you ask me!
- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK
Yep, they've earned that name for so SO many reasons.
- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK
Actually you're bang on.
And they even sell craptacularly underclocked cards from stock.
Anyone who wants to check out a perfect REVIEWER's Sample card with this phenomenon, check the Buyer's guide and click on the Shocked smiley Face I included beside the PowerCrapper description. Now that's freakin' ridiculous.
As for suing them, it's really hard to do that as you have to prove willful intent. And for every one where ALL the cards are underclocked, like their R9700PROs that became R9700GOLDs, they put the information in a description which is usually far from being front and centre, but of course no one has the website handy at the time they purchase this card from some retailer who didn't bother to point this out (or who may not even have known).
- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK
Check out the Buyer's Guide Sticky at the top of the forum list for some insight (scroll down for Mfr list).
HIS is one of my favourites for ATI, now that Hercules' dead. Gainward is my favourite for nV. But there are others.
- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! - <font color=green>RED </font color=green> <font color=red> GREEN</font color=red> GA to SK
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Get your own language, and stop butchering the Queen's English, if you're so independant!
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| Quote : The X800XL is the first Ati-sanctioned use of the "XL" designation, unless I'm mistaken (happens, occasionally).
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You were a tad mistaken, it seems ATi wanted to just bring back an old suffix into the game (they found out there weren't enough and car makers started suing them 
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