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which is a better gpu to overclock ati or nvidia?

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March 3, 2005 5:41:19 PM

better gpu for overclocking?

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March 3, 2005 6:14:10 PM

Depends which GPU type exactly, and which card it's used in, and what clockspeed it's given out of the door.

Not all GPUs are created equal; some are made with the low-k process, so their clocks can go higher... but it also depends on overhead: whether or not the manufacturers are pushing the clockspeeds to begin with when they release the cards. And the luck of the draw is always involved, as well.

It's not really manufacturer based.

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March 4, 2005 2:02:15 AM

ic said the blind bat

how bout an asus geforce 5900?
and how would you overclock on lets say an intel board
you cant` can you

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March 4, 2005 12:28:00 PM

Stay away from any GeforceFX 5xxx series product. They are absolutely horrendous compared to other solutions.

If you're looking for older, cheaper hardware look for a Radeon 9700/9800 series (not SE!), and if you can afford new get a geforce 6600GT.

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March 7, 2005 12:25:23 PM

how bout ati x800 ?

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March 7, 2005 12:53:31 PM

All X800's are great, powerful cards (except the X800 SE version).

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March 7, 2005 12:58:59 PM

do u know the difference between all the versions?

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March 7, 2005 1:42:38 PM

Here's a quick breakdown:

X800SE: 8 pipelines
X800: 12 pipelines
X800 PRO: 12 pipelines, much higher clockspeeds than X800
X850 PRO: 12 pipelines, slightly higher clockspeeds than X800 PRO
X800 XL: 16 pipelines
X800 XT: 16 pipelines, much higher clockspeeds than X800 XL
X850 XT: 16 pipelines, slightly higher clockspeeds than X800 XT


Alll X800's have a nice 256-bit memory interface.

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March 7, 2005 2:26:45 PM

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and how would you overclock on lets say an intel board
you cant` can you

What board you're using has very little bearing on the overclockability of your GPU. Some do better than others.

Aftermarket cooling solutions (e.g. VGA silencer) and voltmods increase overclocking potential, but invalidate warranty. Better cooling is basically always necessary for a successful voltmod.

My 9800Pro gives Artifacts at anything over ~405Mhz, but with the Mod I can get 450Mhz artifact free (1.94V)

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March 7, 2005 2:33:08 PM

hey thanks that
makes things much easier to understand
but y do these companies make the product names so hard to understand?

y not numbers, like ;

x800se = x800-8
x800 = x800-12
x800 pro x800-12oc
and so on
i mean pro sounds like it would be the fastest


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March 7, 2005 2:40:35 PM

They make it confusing because they make most of their money of the midrange cards, so if they make their midrage cards sound like they are high-end cards, people who don't know better will gravitate toward them.

That's why the onus is always on the purchaser to research, research, research! (like you have, by asking around at THGC!)

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March 7, 2005 7:51:53 PM

You'rew saying it's not just numbers!?!

You mean my FX5200 might be worse, than a GF4ti4600!?!

You're just making things up to make me feel bad! :wink:


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March 7, 2005 10:11:40 PM

LOL :lol:  this is funny. Be careful though guys or someone may think that you are serious, run out and buy an FX5200.

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March 8, 2005 4:12:26 AM

well i try to research
but nvidia for instance doesn`t list all the differences just some of them and its confusing
for instance the 5900 looks faster than the 6600 according to the website but of course i realize by the differences in both price and product number the 6600 has to be better
when they start doing pro, ultra and xt it gets really confusing
i usually look for comparisons on toms and buy the fastest card i could afford, from a manufacturer that also has a review.

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March 8, 2005 4:20:03 AM

i guess i would do the same
- ie. arnold873 pro ultra extreme oc

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March 8, 2005 4:22:40 AM

how would you oc a video card then?
i though you had to use the mb utility to change bus speeds and voltages to the agp slot?
intel never gives such utilities since they don`t want any oc of their cpus

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March 8, 2005 10:14:45 AM

The Gfx card drivers have the ability to change the clockspeeds on the cards, but they don't normally give you the option by default.

Sometimes you can enable an extra page for clockspeeds in control panel by changing/adding a value in your registry, or you can use third-party software like RivaTuner (which is what I use)

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March 8, 2005 10:21:32 AM

Quote:
i though you had to use the mb utility to change bus speeds and voltages to the agp slot?

The motherboard AGP slot settings don't have much effect at all. When people talk about overclocking their graphics cards they're talking about the actual Core graphics processor (GPU), and the memory on the card.

Think of the graphics card as a car, and the AGP Slot/Motherboard as the road it's on. No matter what you do to the road (AGP Slot) the car will only be able to hit a certain speed, whereas tuning the car (The GPU/Memory) can have a dramatic effect on how fast it can go...

Probably not the best analogy, but the best I could do without spending too long thinking.

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March 9, 2005 3:05:52 AM

were would one aquire such a utility?

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March 9, 2005 6:07:16 AM

Google it. try looking up RivaTuner or another utility.

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March 9, 2005 6:25:24 AM

okay thanks

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