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Railguns have actually been around for a while, they've just been as long as a battleship for a while. Not really practical as a weapon.
Couldn't get the page to load, so I don't know what he says about them.
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I also thought it was interesting that rcf84 related railguns to Q3A, and not to anything anime, BattleTech, or even to Q2 for that matter.
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I heard of a prototype, long time back. It could (I guess figured through extrapolation) shoot a 2000lb mass into low earth orbit (80miles). Although, at 40g+, a manned vehicle wouldn't quite make it. I'm sure with superconducting mags, the 'home' version isn't far away.
Coincidentally, 40g+ is exactly what an F-18 pulls when it hits a mountianside (perpendicular, I guess) at 500knots.
Railguns have been around forever. They just don't shoot different color streams depending on your preference
If I remember correctly they were trying to make a railgun that could be put on Navy ships but it was too big. They were also hoping to put a railgun into space but it would have been too big and expensive.
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Rail Guns,Microwave Guns, LASERs and any other Focused Energy Weapons have been around since the late '70. We have the technology to build, let's say a portable Microwave gun small enough to fit on a tank chassy but we lack the power source. Only portable nuclear reactors can ensure enough "food" for such weapons to make them usefull in a war.
Indeed, a spaces based energy weapon, powered by nuclear reactors could be built. We have the technology to build a replica of the C&C Ion Cannon but it's costs as production, delivery & maintanance would be enormous. Plasma is good because it travels at extremly high speed, can be obtained by cycling in a particle accelerator some ions (Hydrogen can be obtained directly from space - check out the Bussard spaceship engine) If you send a volume of 500 cubic meters of superheated fluid (15000+ degrees(C)) down to Earth from high orbit (not low orbit because youre platform will be vulnerable to ballistic missiles - maybe you could equip the platform with engines and it could shift it's orbit...) into an airfield, for example, you will incinerate everything. Even if you have a 50% energy loss due to atmospheric interaction you'll still destroy any kind of aircraft or installation.
But, then again, nukes are cheaper and more feared...
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"Microwave Guns"
MASERS (microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation, opposed to <i>light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation</i> (laser))..... I thought they were around in the 60's?
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Didja' happen to see the article in TIME about a year ago, concerning weapons which emit frequencies to shut down your brain? Literally. It's just a 'ray gun' that takes a sample of the intended targets brain activity (alpha, beta, gamma waves), and I guess through destructive interference, renders you unconscious/dead.
Next best thing to a neutron bomb?
well maybe intel 0.13 mircon could help make the gun smaller.
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Yes, but there is a big difference between emmiting a MASER beam and emmiting a plain old microwave beam. MASERS is like a laser but works with a different light freqency. In this pattern there are GASERS (for gamma radiation) and infrared lasers, which are called also LASERS. The EM wave generated by a LASER (any kind) has different propertis from normal EM, not just high energy concentration. The problem in the '60, as until recently was the mirrors inside the resonating chamber of a LASER (check out the components of a LASER system) Recently were developed some special systems that act like mirrors with variable geometry and greatly increase the power output of a LASER. Again, a MASER could be used as a controlled Electromagnetic Pulse, rather than to melt things. If you knock out communications without destroing them is better in warfare.
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Just joking.
Those Damm Northwood p4's better be cheaper.
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what do you mean trying?? I couldn't find the link but I've seen pictures of them already mounted. The University of Texas seems to have taken it off thier site. The newer pulse cannons could even be mounted to tanks. Future designs of battle tanks are planned to be completely electric and void of explosives so they can take a serious hit and still operate. The rail cannon would also allow for lower profile tanks that are harder to hit.
Here's a cool <A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/mapablast.html" target="_new">link</A> I found in my failed attempt to look for the picture.
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I thought that development of MASERs was outlawed because it was an invisible beam weapon and it could easily do damage that would create long-term problems without immediate concerns.
Which is also the same reason why the development of x-ray cannons has gone nowhere.
So it wasn't the technology holding back the development, but just the ethics of using it as a weapon.
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An all electric tank.
With the already researched and soon to be implemented use of EMP technology, I doubt anyone wants an all electric tank anymore.
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Since when have rail guns been a focused energy weapon, they use an electro magnetic pulse to accellerate a projectile to extremely high velocities. Even a small projectile at high velocity can do a lot of damage especially if the projectile is 'soft'.
Note there is a different weapon type called an EM gun which only gives out an EM pulse (often refered to as HEMP) this pulse will be able to wipe out silicon based control systems so could, for example, down a plane by taking out it's computers. The pulse is not visible and therefore you certainly cannot change it's colour.
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Yes I knew that already, I thought you were talking about MASERS.... my bad.
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Well learned alot now. I be MASER by thug in the future instead of being shot.
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You are half right. True, a LASER uses heat to destroy or knock out a target and something like a RailGun uses small
charged particles as a projectile. Still, the electromagnetic process of launching the projectile (a liniar electromagnet, basicly) is called an 'energy focus' process.
As about EMPs, they have been around since the first atomic bomb, which is a very good but uncontrolled EMP. As far as directionaly EMPs there are only some experiments with unfocused MASERS - this things are called NNEMP - Non Nuclear (origin) EMP and are new stuff.
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A rail gun does not use charged particles as a projectile they use light weight compound projectiles, compounds used are designed to both deform on impact and carry a charge which is produced by the transit of the Sabot and not the 'gun'. The launch process is basically an exercise in control of capacitance and inductance in the launcher, careful control of the shape of the supplied pulse can create massive differences in exit velocity. This is not an energy weapon, where the only output of the device is energy in some form (i.e an atomic manipulation such as a Laser)
HEMP weapons (High Energy Magnetic Pulse) weapons are out and about today. (Non nuclear devices)
Try reading Winn Schwanntau's book, 'Information Warfare'. After working for the government for 15 years I know what I'm talking about.
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"uses heat"
When you get up to the multi Gigawatt lasers (like the kind used to knock down ballistic missles), the laser doesn't have time to transfer energy thermally. It's completely kinetic. The hole gets 'punched' through the missle, almost like a bullet.
Pretty nifty......
Erm maybe I'm being dumb on this one, a Laser is basically light , what Kinetic energy does it have? Kinetic energy being a mass/velocity thing.
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wow i dont know... wusy note this please... Anti Via Army must use Railguns, lasers, maser for now on.
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I wondered the exact same thing when I first heard the idea. You'd have to crack out a physics book and a calculator to do the math. Light, more or less, has 'mass'.
It takes a heck of a lot longer to convert the photon energy of any wavelength into thermal energy emitted by the object. Even infared light takes time to 'warm' an object, so that it emits infared light. It's just energy, but different =) There's just not enought time for the power to be absorbed by the electrons. And there's so many photons (energy) at higher power levels (there is a cut-off for the emission, but I've not ever looked into it) that the end result is kinetic energy overpowers everything. A .45/10mm bullet will push/throw a man backwards from the absorbed kinetic energy, but a high velocity .223 will just pass through the same target like a laser. Pressure counts.
There's actually been a few experiments done where a diamond has been suspended ('mid-air'/mid-vaccuum) against the force of gravity by a laser. Only a couple of millimeters, though.......
You are right, as far as light presurre. Although photons have no rest mass (otherwise they couldn't be able to reach speed of light) have kinetic(or motion - i'm not sure how to translate this) mass. This phenomenon was first observed (but previriously predicted by theory) during early inerplanetary probe missions. Some probes that had orbits too cose around the sun expirienced unexplicabile trajectory modifications. After some brainstorms at NASA, someone came with the ideea of calculating the pressure of light applied to the solar pannels of the craft. Guess what? It added exactly to the trajectory modifications.
As far as 'LASERS punching a hole in a missile by kinetic energy' is Bull. RailGuns do so because they use particles (ionised molecules of a metal alloy). A LASER could not generate such kinetic energy never ever. LASERS destroy a target by inducing heat. Large amounts heat. Plus, army experiments used some MASERS (microwave LASER) to KNOK OUT ballistic missiles, meaning destroing the electronics by EMP effect.
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OK. There is a problem. We might not be talking about the same thing. A RailGun, as I know on this subject, uses ionised small particles at extremly high velocity that would puncture to most alloys that make up armor for ships, tanks and submarines (at the begining(the '60-'70), the railgun was originally intended for submarine warfare, as torpedoes and depth charges are pretty inacurate - some information leaks from the former USSR taalk about such a device mounted on a test subamrine. Of course it would been usefull against ships and tanks too, but there are cheaper weapons that do a good job). Usage of small ionised particles over larger projectiles in a liniary accelerator is preferable due to much lower energy usage. Also, there is no need for a charge inside the projectile since a tiny ball of superheated metal traveling at about 80 Mach would ignore even two times the amount of armor on a tank. Would just go right through like it was a cheese tank
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Most of the research I've done on Rail Guns involves long needle-like miniature projectiles. They are however definately projectile weaponry, not energy weaponry.
What I've heard you refer to is more what I've read of as a Particle Projection Cannon, where tiny particles are shot out at incredible speeds.
And then there is the rarely mentioned Gauss Rifle which actually fires large metallic slugs like any old cannon, only by electro-magnetism and with no gunpowder involved.
Actually, and then there is also the occasionally talked-about magnetic-acceleration chambers that could be mounted on regular guns similar to a silencer, only they increase the projectile's velocity even more instead of make it silent. It's an interesting concept that would allow a lot of old weapons to still be useful in the face of new technology, but it sounds hard to implement to me.
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EMP missiles were used by USAF against serbia. They were in parachute drop missiles, that direct a downward pointing pulse when they reach a certain altitude. There not accurate and cannot be directed precisely like a laser as used in goldeneye, but instead more of a directed explosion effect.
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Thats why developement time is being spent on softer projectiles, good example would be the early french DU rounds, the round doesn't pierce the armour on a tank but the shockwaves from a hit wll kill the personnel, knockout electronics and csometimes set off the rounds in the tank.
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I've seen the damage projectiles travelling at about 2000mph (mach 3.5 ish) does to a target and it's pretty devastating. The charge on a projectile is useful, lets say you're targeting a big ship, you only get one shot it put's a whacking great hole in the ship, if the projectile also has enough electrical charge to take out the ships ew and digital battlefield system, that ship cannot be repaired without the use of a major repair yard, just a hole could plausibly be repaired at sea. (I know people who have even cut holes in a ship to replace a turbine and then patch the ship back up, all at sea).
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