Where can I find a Piranha sound chip 6301?

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I've been trying my hand at board repair for the first time this week.
I had some sound issues with my Piranha board, so I started looking
over the schematic. Seems that there's a 6301 chip missing from
position 1K on my board.

Is a 6301 a rom chip that would need to be programmed with the correct
image file to produce the sound I need? I suspect it is. If that's the
case, how can I go about getting a 6301 and then getting it programmed?
Do ocal electronics stores carry that type of chip?

Thanks in advance for any help. I've come a LOOOONG way in a year. I
would imagine that within another year, I'll be the one answering these
types of questions instead of asking them.

Corey
 
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On 28 Jul 2005 22:27:48 -0700, "Corey C." <cooke@jory.ca> wrote:

>I've been trying my hand at board repair for the first time this week.
>I had some sound issues with my Piranha board, so I started looking
>over the schematic. Seems that there's a 6301 chip missing from
>position 1K on my board.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. But I *think* it might
be the same sound prom as Pac-man. Yes, it needs to be programmed.

- Mike -
 
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Does this help....

http://www.arcadechips.com/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=6301&pfrom=&pto=&categories_id=&x=0&y=0


"Corey C." <cooke@jory.ca> wrote in message
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> I've been trying my hand at board repair for the first time this week.
> I had some sound issues with my Piranha board, so I started looking
> over the schematic. Seems that there's a 6301 chip missing from
> position 1K on my board.
>
> Is a 6301 a rom chip that would need to be programmed with the correct
> image file to produce the sound I need? I suspect it is. If that's the
> case, how can I go about getting a 6301 and then getting it programmed?
> Do ocal electronics stores carry that type of chip?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help. I've come a LOOOONG way in a year. I
> would imagine that within another year, I'll be the one answering these
> types of questions instead of asking them.
>
> Corey
>
 
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Corey C. <cooke@jory.ca> wrote:
: I've been trying my hand at board repair for the first time this week.
: I had some sound issues with my Piranha board, so I started looking
: over the schematic. Seems that there's a 6301 chip missing from
: position 1K on my board.
:
: Is a 6301 a rom chip that would need to be programmed with the correct
: image file to produce the sound I need? I suspect it is. If that's the
: case, how can I go about getting a 6301 and then getting it programmed?
: Do ocal electronics stores carry that type of chip?
:
: Thanks in advance for any help. I've come a LOOOONG way in a year. I
: would imagine that within another year, I'll be the one answering these
: types of questions instead of asking them.

That's a bipolar prom... it would need to be programmed...
It may be the same as 1M on pacman...

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50 Vassar St., #38.265 mspaeth@mit.edu
Cambridge, MA 02139
(617) 452-2354 http://rgvac.978.org/~mspaeth
 
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Thanks for the help, guys. I truly appreciate it. And the link for
arcadechips.com is very handy. Do they program them with whatever you
ask for? Or do they require you to provide them with the code you need?
 
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Check with Bob Roberts on burning one - he might be able to do it -
www.therealbobroberts.com - I know he can burn some chips (and not with a
soldering iron like me ;-)

Also - you might wanna verify the specs on that chip with Dave Widel
(www.widel.com). The dude knows damn near every bit and byte of Pac Code,
and I have one of his 4-in-1 MsPac kits running on my Piranha PCB.

Another possible person to ask about burning the chip would be Scott
Brasington www.brasington.org/arcade - another superhero to this hobby, like
Roberts and Widel.

"Corey C." <cooke@jory.ca> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the help, guys. I truly appreciate it. And the link for
> arcadechips.com is very handy. Do they program them with whatever you
> ask for? Or do they require you to provide them with the code you need?
>
 
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And its the same bipolar thats on GALAGA.

"Mark C. Spaeth" <mspaeth@plancherel.mit.edu> wrote in message
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> Corey C. <cooke@jory.ca> wrote:
> : I've been trying my hand at board repair for the first time this week.
> : I had some sound issues with my Piranha board, so I started looking
> : over the schematic. Seems that there's a 6301 chip missing from
> : position 1K on my board.
> :
> : Is a 6301 a rom chip that would need to be programmed with the correct
> : image file to produce the sound I need? I suspect it is. If that's the
> : case, how can I go about getting a 6301 and then getting it programmed?
> : Do ocal electronics stores carry that type of chip?
> :
> : Thanks in advance for any help. I've come a LOOOONG way in a year. I
> : would imagine that within another year, I'll be the one answering these
> : types of questions instead of asking them.
>
> That's a bipolar prom... it would need to be programmed...
> It may be the same as 1M on pacman...
>
> --
> Mark Spaeth mspaeth@mtl.mit.edu
> 50 Vassar St., #38.265 mspaeth@mit.edu
> Cambridge, MA 02139
> (617) 452-2354 http://rgvac.978.org/~mspaeth
>
 
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Where would I find the image that I would need to program the prom?
That is, if I bought the chip from someone like Bob Roberts, from where
would I get the file I need on that chip?
 
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1K on a piranha board does map to 1m on a pacman board. I'm not sure
if it's been dumped for sure to know that it really is identical. I've
noticed some sound differences on the gdp boards, (iirc it was only
when running make trax and eyes), and the hardware is the same so it's
possible the data is slightly different. The pacman version will
definately work though. Here's a fairly definative list if you're
looking to borrow one from another board.


- 82s126.1m : puckman:puckMan (Japan set 1, Probably
Bootleg):Namco:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : puckmana:puckMan (Japan set 2):Namco:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : puckmanf:puckMan (Japan set 1 with speedup
hack):Namco:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : puckmanh:puckman (Falcom?):hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : pacman:pac-Man (Midway):[Namco] (Midway
license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : pacmanf:pac-Man (Midway, with speedup hack):[Namco]
(Midway license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : puckmod:puckMan (Japan set 3):Namco:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : pacmod:pac-Man (Midway, harder):[Namco] (Midway
license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : newpuc2:Newpuc2:hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : newpuc2b:Newpuc2 (set 2):hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : newpuckx:New Puck-X:hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : pacheart:pac-Man (Hearts):hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : hangly:Hangly-Man (set 1):hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : hangly2:Hangly-Man (set 2):hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : hangly3:Hangly-Man (set 3):hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : piranhah:piranha (hack):hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : crush:Crush Roller (Kural Samno):Kural Samno
Electric:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : crush2:Crush Roller (Kural Esco - bootleg?):Kural Esco
Electric:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : crush3:Crush Roller (Kural - bootleg?):Kural
Electric:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : maketrax:Make Trax (set 1):[Kural] (Williams
license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : maketrxb:Make Trax (set 2):[Kural] (Williams
license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : korosuke:Korosuke Roller:Kural Electric:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mbrush:Magic Brush:bootleg:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : paintrlr:paint Roller:bootleg:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : pacplus:pac-Man Plus:[Namco] (Midway license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : joyman:Joyman:hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : ctrpllrp:Caterpillar Pacman Hack:hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : eyes:Eyes (Digitrex Techstar):Digitrex Techstar
(Rock-ola license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : eyes2:Eyes (Techstar):Techstar (Rock-ola
license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mrtnt:Mr. TNT:Telko:pacman.c
- gorkprom.3 : gorkans:Gorkans:Techstar:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : eggor:Eggor:Telko:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : jumpshot:Jump Shot:Bally Midway:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : jumpshtp:Jump Shot Engineering Sample:Bally
Midway:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : shootbul:Shoot the Bull:Bally Midway:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : piranha:piranha:GL (US Billiards License):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : piranhao:piranha (older):GL (US Billiards
License):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : nmouse:Naughty Mouse (set 1):Amenip (Palcom Queen
River):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : nmouseb:Naughty Mouse (set 2):Amenip Nova Games
Ltd.:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mspacman:Ms. Pac-Man:Midway:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mspacmnf:Ms. Pac-Man (with speedup hack):Midway:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mspacmat:Ms. Pac Attack:hack:pacman.c
- pr.1k : woodpek:Woodpecker (set 1):Amenip (Palcom Queen
River):pacman.c
- pr.1k : woodpeka:Woodpecker (set 2):Amenip:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mspacmab:Ms. Pac-Man (bootleg):bootleg:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : pacgal:pac-Gal:hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mspacpls:Ms. Pac-Man Plus:hack:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : ponpoko:ponpoko:Sigma Enterprises Inc.:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : ponpokov:ponpoko (Venture Line):Sigma Enterprises Inc.
(Venture Line license):p
- 82s126.1m : lizwiz:Lizard Wizard:Techstar (Sunn license):pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : alibaba:Ali Baba and 40 Thieves:Sega:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : bwcasino:Boardwalk Casino:Epos Corporation:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : acitya:Atlantic City Action:Epos Corporation:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : theglobp:The Glob (Pac-Man hardware):Epos
Corporation:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : sprglobp:Super Glob (Pac-Man hardware):Epos
Corporation:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : beastf:Beastie Feastie:Epos Corporation:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : rocktrv2:MTV Rock-N-Roll Trivia (Part 2):Triumph
Software Inc.:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : bigbucks:Big Bucks:Dynasoft Inc.:pacman.c
- 82s126.1m : mschamp:Ms. Pacman Champion Edition / Super Zola Pac
Gal:hack:pacman.c
- jrprom.7p : jrpacmbl:Jr. Pac-Man (Pengo hardware):bootleg:pengo.c
- jrprom.7p : jrpacman:Jr. Pac-Man:Bally Midway:jrpacman.c
 
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So if I pulled the file labelled 82s126.1m from the Puckman mame rom
set, would it be safe to say that I'd have the right file?
 
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The 3M bipolar on Pac is the same as 5C on Galaga,
but the 1M on Pac is not shared with Galaga.
The 1M sound PROM on Pac is used by Piranha,
but I don't know if that corresponds to 1K on the
Piranha PCB (as I don't have one to check).

Matt

"Steve Lewinsky" <coinop@rogers.com> wrote
> And its the same bipolar thats on GALAGA.
>
> "Mark C. Spaeth" <mspaeth@plancherel.mit.edu> wrote
>> Corey C. <cooke@jory.ca> wrote:
>> : I've been trying my hand at board repair for the first time this week.
>> : I had some sound issues with my Piranha board, so I started looking
>> : over the schematic. Seems that there's a 6301 chip missing from
>> : position 1K on my board.
>> :
>> : Is a 6301 a rom chip that would need to be programmed with the correct
>> : image file to produce the sound I need? I suspect it is. If that's the
>> : case, how can I go about getting a 6301 and then getting it programmed?
>> : Do ocal electronics stores carry that type of chip?
>> :
>> : Thanks in advance for any help. I've come a LOOOONG way in a year. I
>> : would imagine that within another year, I'll be the one answering these
>> : types of questions instead of asking them.
>>
>> That's a bipolar prom... it would need to be programmed...
>> It may be the same as 1M on pacman...
>>
>> --
>> Mark Spaeth mspaeth@mtl.mit.edu
 
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Just tell Bob you need a 1M PacMan PROM.

"Corey C." <cooke@jory.ca> wrote in message news:1123006530.216858.67690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Where would I find the image that I would need to program the prom?
> That is, if I bought the chip from someone like Bob Roberts, from where
> would I get the file I need on that chip?
 
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It's possible to get some good information from this group....

Thanks to the information contained in this thread, I ordered a Pac 1M
from Bob Roberts. Popped 'er in and now my Piranha works like a dream.

Thanks, guys.

Corey