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October 11, 2012 12:32:35 AM

Hi guys, this is my first post here on tomshardware, so sorry if I mess anything up. :p 
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I'm looking for a laptop for school that I can also use for gaming and video/photo editing with adobe after effects/premiere pro and photoshop. At the moment, I play TF2 mostly on my desktop along with a bit of battlefield and some assassin's creed and portal.

Budget: under $700 but i can extend it to $8-900 if its worth it

I'll definitely need a dedicated GPU and a moderately fast GPU. The screen size should be 14-15 inches, so that I can fit it in a backpack everyday for school. I also need good build quality (preferably not plastic) since slamming it in a backpack with heavy textbooks is not exactly gentle.

Here are a few different models I've picked out. I'd like some feedback on what you guys think would be good or bad, or for you to suggest another model or something

HP DV6z with A10 or A8 and 7730m

HP DV6z with A8/A10 and 7670m crossfire

Acer V3 571g with 3rd gen i3 and GT630m

Acer V3 561g with 3rd gen i5 and GT630m

Lenovo Y480 with 3rd gen quad i7 and GT640m LE. I've heard a lot of bad about this one. The gpu supposedly is underclocked and has only 96 shaders versus 364 or 398 or whatever. This is supposed to be a cheap reskin of the old gt555m.

Lenovo z585 with A8 and integrated 7660m (supposed to preform moderately well, best of the integrated gpus) very good build quality so i hear. extremely cheap $500 with a10 and 7660m

Lenovo Y580 with 3rd gen i7 and GTx660m - most expensive and i don't know if its worth it. Will it be that much of an upgrade? I might play games like skyrim or other graphics intensive games in the future

Acer M5 ultrabook 3rd gen i5 and gt640m (actual 300+ shader version so i hear)
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Is it worth it to get intel i5 versus i3 in the Acer V3?
Is the 7730 or 7670m crossfire better for general use and gaming (the games i listed earlier)?
Is the A10 worth it over the A8?
How do the GT630m in the acer V3 and the GT640m le in the lenovo y480 and the acer M5 compare?
How far behind does the integrated 7660 by itself trail?
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I'm inclined to get the Y480 since its only 599.99 at newegg right now, but Im discouraged by the negative talk of the GPU. Could someone clarify if its that bad? Like would it be worse than the others in the price range? The i7 i assume will be very good for rendering in after effects and premiere, but if the graphics are worse than say the 630m or the 7670 then I won't get it.

Please just give me a recommendation of whats the best deal with good build quality in my price range.
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I've read a couple other posts about the 7730m vs the 7670m and the a8 vs a10 but I'd like for someone to tell me how these will affect the gameplay (of my games, TF2 and BF3 mostly mayby skyrim) and everyday performance
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October 11, 2012 1:30:59 AM

What I would actually suggest considering is the HP DV6z-7000 in a configuration that includes the following components:
- A10-4600M
- Radeon 7670M
- 1920x1080 display.

The A10-4600M's integrated 7660G GPU and the Radeon 7970M can crossfire to achieve game performance faster than that of the Radeon 7730M, which cannot crossfire.

The reason you should get the upgraded 1920x1080 display and not the stock 1366x768 display is both because of how good the 1920x1080 display is, and also because of how bad the 1366x768 display is. The display is something you need to focus on, because it affects everything you do. The 1920x1080 display is great, with high contrast, a matte finish, wide viewing angles, and lots of room onscreen. But 1366x768 resolution in a 15.6" display makes things onscreen large, and 15.6" displays that have 1366x768 resolution tend to be low-grade LCD panels with very poor image quality due to low contrast. You should avoid displays like this when it is reasonable to do so. Note that the Acer V3 is only offered with a 15.6" 1366x768 display, and the versions of the Y580 that come with the 1920x1080 display are over $900.

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Here is a saved configuration of the HP DV6z-7000 that includes the aforementioned upgrades: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configu...

Use coupon SAVE20HP to knock off $20.

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October 11, 2012 1:48:14 AM

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What I would actually suggest considering is the HP DV6z-7000 in a configuration that includes the following components:
- A10-4600M
- Radeon 7670M
- 1920x1080 display.

The A10-4600M's integrated 7660G GPU and the Radeon 7970M can crossfire to achieve game performance faster than that of the Radeon 7730M, which cannot crossfire.

The reason you should get the upgraded 1920x1080 display and not the stock 1366x768 display is both because of how good the 1920x1080 display is, and also because of how bad the 1366x768 display is. The display is something you need to focus on, because it affects everything you do. The 1920x1080 display is great, with high contrast, a matte finish, wide viewing angles, and lots of room onscreen. But 1366x768 resolution in a 15.6" display makes things onscreen large, and 15.6" displays that have 1366x768 resolution tend to be low-grade LCD panels with very poor image quality due to low contrast. You should avoid displays like this when it is reasonable to do so. Note that the Acer V3 is only offered with a 15.6" 1366x768 display, and the versions of the Y580 that come with the 1920x1080 display are over $900.

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Here is a saved configuration of the HP DV6z-7000 that includes the aforementioned upgrades: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configu...

Use coupon SAVE20HP to knock off $20.

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Is the 1080p screen that much better? I guess I'll have to go to a store and see for myself. I've been using a 900x1600 17.3 inch screen and have been fine with it. 768x1336 on a 14 inch screen seems to me like it would be fine. What about the graphics of the Y480? Do you think it would be adequite?

That configuration looks pretty good to me. I saw something on amazon called Asus N56vz with a 1080p screen and GT650m for 800-900. You know anything about that? Would it be better than the HP? Thanks
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a b D Laptop
October 11, 2012 1:52:20 AM

Take your 17.3" 1600x900 display and compare it with a decent desktop monitor. Especially when displaying darker images. You'll probably see what I mean. But keep in mind that quality isn't the only issue, the other issue is that a higher resolution display allows you to fit more onscreen. This affects essentially everything you do.

The N56VZ-DS71 and N56VZ-RB71 are good options (Avoid the ES71 model), but if you're willing to increase your budget that high then I might suggest considering these as well. They come with the faster GDDR5 version of the GT 650M instead of the slower GDDR3 version the N56VZ has, and I'm also not seeing the N56VZ for that price.

MSI GE60 (i7-3610QM, NVIDIA GT 650M, 15.6" 1920x1080 matte display) - $939 no tax
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GE60-0NC-006US-9S7-16GA11-006...

Sager NP6165 (i5-3210M, NVIDIA GT 650M, 15.6" 1920x1080 glossy display) - $920 no tax
- http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np6165-clevo-w150er-p-4344...
- Select Windows 7 under Operating System if you cannot acquire your own copy for cheaper.
- 17.3" version: http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np6175-clevo-w170er-p-4345...
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October 11, 2012 1:55:29 AM

Just found this GT540m 1080p laptop for $750. Is this or the HP better?
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a b D Laptop
October 11, 2012 2:06:52 AM

Which laptop is it, could you post a link?
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October 11, 2012 2:15:33 AM

Skyrim is a pretty demanding game so you will need some decent hardware.

TOSHIBA Satellite S855D-S5256 - $699.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

has an a10-4600m, a very good mobile card

skyrim review for it:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-4600m-trinity-p...

For $50 more you could also get:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's the same but with a larger and better screen. Worth the extra dough in my opinion.
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a b D Laptop
October 11, 2012 2:27:58 AM

The Toshiba Satellite S855D-S5256 and Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 are not good options, because they come with 15.6" 1366x768 and 17.3" 1600x900 displays, both of which make things onscreen large and tend to be low-grade LCD panels with very poor image quality due to low contrast.

The HP DV6z will provide considerably better game performance. The DV6z has the integrated 7660G and the crossfire-ing 7670M GPU. The Satellite models only come with the 7660G, which is considerably slower by itself.

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The ASUS with the GT 540M should provide a bit better game performance than either a 7660G or 7670M on its own.

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But if you're fine with GT 540M-level performance, I might suggest a Lenovo Thinkpad T530 with the NVS 5400M GPU.

Lenovo Thinkpad T530 - $621 + tax and up. ($659 + tax and up w/ NVS 5400M GPU)
- Sign up and sign in here: http://shoplenovo.i2.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/na/St...
- T530 base configs through the discount: http://shoplenovo.i2.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/barne...¤t-category-id=DC8F3B79220E3BCF3B7C12AAA11F7BFB&action=init (Generally, start with the cheapest)
- On the configuration page, upgrade the "Display type" to at least HD+ (1600x900). You should not buy the Lenovo Thinkpad T530 in any configuration that includes the default HD (1366x768) display. 1366x768 resolution in a 15.6" display makes things onscreen large, and 15.6" displays that have 1366x768 resolution tend to have very poor image quality due to low contrast. But the upgraded 15.6" 1600x900 and 15.6" 1920x1080 displays have great contrast, and also allow you to fit more onscreen. The availability of the upgraded displays upgrade is part of why I recommend this laptop.
- The i5-3210M is not a bad upgrade choice from the stock previous-gen i3-2370M. Even if the performance difference doesn't affect you, it's a more efficient chip that might make a difference in battery life. Not a mandatory upgrade though, and get the 1600x900 display upgrade first.
- Get the free Intel Centrino 2200 WiFi adapter upgrade. Some have reported issues with the stock adapter.
- Note that, unlike most laptops, the Webcam is an upgrade, it isn't included by default.
- Don't select any memory upgrades on the configuration page. Do them yourself, because they're a lot cheaper that way.
- Get the NVS 5400M GPU upgrade if you plan on playing games that benefit from it.
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October 11, 2012 2:31:58 AM

nbelote said:
$629, a generation old but it'll do the job:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Sandy bridge for $599, 6650m better than 540m graphics:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


Those laptop are decent but he's looking for gaming performance and those both have much lower power in that area. Also because they are older models vs the brand new trinity, they have a smaller battery life, less ram, and no Blu-ray player. I would have to advise again'st these cheaper lappies.
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October 11, 2012 2:48:36 AM

I don't care too much about power unless its as low as like 2 hours even just browsing the internet. Thor220 do you think either of these would be good?
The lenovo z585 has A10 and 7660g like those toshibas. Im not sure if the 540m or whatever others like it would be better or worse than the 630m or the trinity a10.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085H64E6/ref=ox_sc_a...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085H64E6/ref=ox_sc_a...

This acer with the i7 and 540m looks pretty good to me. Would the battery really be that bad? I dont need blu ray and i can always upgrade ram too.
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October 11, 2012 2:52:58 AM

woops, I think you accidentily linked the same laptop twice.
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October 11, 2012 3:17:53 AM

On the first link, that's a great deal. Awesome price but a little low on ram and screen size. Also note that it does not have a blu-ray drive, but that may not be a big deal for you.

On the second, also pretty good. The graphics will be around the a10 and so will the processor. The disadvantage are the ram, hard disk, and small screen.

The best choice is the second link in your post(Acer Aspire) if you need to save cash. It's the cheapest one offering performance close to the toshiba's. If your not to strapped for cash though, I would get the $699 Toshiba.(second link in my first post) It's just a quality laptop but I guess that is why it is about $150 more. Once sec I'll see if i can find a better price for it...


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October 11, 2012 3:31:45 AM

So what exactly does that Toshiba have? Same A10 and 7660g. Better battery? I'd rather buy from a bigger site like amazon or tigerdirect or newegg.

What is your opinion on the lenovo with the A10 nad 7660g for $512?
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October 11, 2012 3:35:56 AM

qzyxya said:
Hi guys, this is my first post here on tomshardware, so sorry if I mess anything up. :p 
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I'm looking for a laptop for school that I can also use for gaming and video/photo editing with adobe after effects/premiere pro and photoshop. At the moment, I play TF2 mostly on my desktop along with a bit of battlefield and some assassin's creed and portal.

Budget: under $700 but i can extend it to $8-900 if its worth it

I'll definitely need a dedicated GPU and a moderately fast GPU. The screen size should be 14-15 inches, so that I can fit it in a backpack everyday for school. I also need good build quality (preferably not plastic) since slamming it in a backpack with heavy textbooks is not exactly gentle.

Here are a few different models I've picked out. I'd like some feedback on what you guys think would be good or bad, or for you to suggest another model or something

HP DV6z with A10 or A8 and 7730m

HP DV6z with A8/A10 and 7670m crossfire

Acer V3 571g with 3rd gen i3 and GT630m

Acer V3 561g with 3rd gen i5 and GT630m

Lenovo Y480 with 3rd gen quad i7 and GT640m LE. I've heard a lot of bad about this one. The gpu supposedly is underclocked and has only 96 shaders versus 364 or 398 or whatever. This is supposed to be a cheap reskin of the old gt555m.

Lenovo z585 with A8 and integrated 7660m (supposed to preform moderately well, best of the integrated gpus) very good build quality so i hear. extremely cheap $500 with a10 and 7660m

Lenovo Y580 with 3rd gen i7 and GTx660m - most expensive and i don't know if its worth it. Will it be that much of an upgrade? I might play games like skyrim or other graphics intensive games in the future

Acer M5 ultrabook 3rd gen i5 and gt640m (actual 300+ shader version so i hear)
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Is it worth it to get intel i5 versus i3 in the Acer V3?
Is the 7730 or 7670m crossfire better for general use and gaming (the games i listed earlier)?
Is the A10 worth it over the A8?
How do the GT630m in the acer V3 and the GT640m le in the lenovo y480 and the acer M5 compare?
How far behind does the integrated 7660 by itself trail?
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I'm inclined to get the Y480 since its only 599.99 at newegg right now, but Im discouraged by the negative talk of the GPU. Could someone clarify if its that bad? Like would it be worse than the others in the price range? The i7 i assume will be very good for rendering in after effects and premiere, but if the graphics are worse than say the 630m or the 7670 then I won't get it.

Please just give me a recommendation of whats the best deal with good build quality in my price range.
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I've read a couple other posts about the 7730m vs the 7670m and the a8 vs a10 but I'd like for someone to tell me how these will affect the gameplay (of my games, TF2 and BF3 mostly mayby skyrim) and everyday performance


I know you don't want to hear this but it isn't gonna happen. Any laptop that can game "well" costs over $1000. If you want to game cheaply, get a netbook and a budget desktop...
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October 11, 2012 3:51:25 AM

You mean the $621 one post above right?(only lenovo i could find on the page) That is a build your own program, so I cannot comment on that. But he said $621 is the base price, so that seems quite high.

On your other question, the Toshiba does have a better battery(6hrs vs 4.5hrs). It also has a larger hard drive, more ram(6gb vs 4gb), a blu-ray player, HD Sound, one more usb 3.0 port, and built in blue-tooth.

Also just found this laptop: $674.99 base price
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cdetland.to?poid=20...

Has an even better graphics card but you will sacrifice some hard drive space and the blu-ray player. This is still pretty awesome with that graphics card though.
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October 11, 2012 3:58:25 AM

lol whoops forgot to link it again
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-261729U-15-6-Inch-...
its got really good build quality according to reviews (all metal basically) has a A10 7660m and is only $512.

I have another question tho, will the 540m run faster overall since it has an i7? The acer on tigerdirect that is. The 540m 630m and 7660m are apparently around the same performance. Would the i7 on the old 540m be better than a newer i3? better than the a10?
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October 11, 2012 4:00:17 AM

Wow that's a great deal with the lenovo laptop. You do sacrifice a bit but That's better than the other one I suggest with price in mind. I would now have to recommend that over the other Toshiba a10. For that price, I would get the lenovo.
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October 11, 2012 4:03:27 AM

Well programs that run on ram will see increase performance with the i10 but because most laptops have a 5400 rpm hard drive, you would not see a great increase in desktop productivity. So spending less and getting the newer i3 would be a good idea because of the lower power use and new instructions.
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October 11, 2012 12:35:19 PM

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1. First of all, here is an overview of your options under 1000$:
http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/gaming-laptops-under-...
and under 800$:
http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/gaming-laptops-under-...
600$
http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/gaming-laptops-under-...
and 500$:
http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/gaming-laptops-under-...

2. I don't understand what you need - you were at the 700$ zone and than got to 500$

3. specific games?

4. The 7660G is very close in performance to the GT 540M / 630M even when they are coupled with an I7. For 500$ it's a good deal because you also get extra features - 750GB HDD and 6GB DDR3 + you get probably higher battery performance.


Yeah my max budget is the 700 ish dollar range, but if a 500 dollar laptop preforms just as well I'll get that. Specific games will be battlefield 3, cod 3, some source games (portal 2, tf2), possible skyrim later (would be fine with it on low)

Is it worth it to buy a $700-800 dollar laptop over these $500 with the 7660m?

thanks those lists are pretty useful on that site you linked gaminglaptopsjunky
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October 11, 2012 2:49:50 PM


Do you have an OEM copy of Win7 available ?

Snag a HP Pavilion dv6z-7000 with the AMD Quad-Core A10-4600M Accelerated Processor & 1GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7670M discreet graphics for $600

Pop a 128GB SSD in that sucker and reinstall the OS using the HP laptop key -- put the original laptop HDD inside an external Vantec USB3 enclosure.

You're jammin' for less than $700, total.

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October 11, 2012 2:51:50 PM

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For 700-800$ you'll get these advantages:
1. Higher performance
2. good fhd screen - better than the 768p ones:
http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/768p-vs-1080p-screens...

But you have to decide if you want the performance and / or the fhd screen.

For 600$ you'll also get higher performance, but no fhd.
For 700$ you can get the dv6z-7000 with good matte fhd screen and good performance (but better wait for another coupon)
For 800$ you can get the QAL51-HD and if you can install Windows from your own copy and pay cash it will be perfrect under 800$

For medium settings on BF3, for example, , you don't need 800$, but 600$. So it's your choice


okay thanks i think i'll go to a store and try out fhd vs the 768 vs 1600x900. Maybe on a 14 inch scren the 768 resolution would be better. I think 1080p 15 inch might be overkill for me, but i'll see. thanks.
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October 11, 2012 3:40:30 PM

Than ks a lot. Is there a way to add karma or something on this site? I'm a total noob here.
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October 11, 2012 4:42:02 PM

actually could someone tell me how the GT640m LE in the 599.99 Y480 will preform? I really like that one's size and build quality (768x1336 14 inch is pretty good resolution and its also lightweight)
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October 11, 2012 11:11:03 PM

thor220 said:
The Lenovo you picked a few posts back was a great deal at the price, why not get that?
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-261729U-15-6-Inch-...

Of course your going to get a few perks by paying $100 to $200 more but the graphics on that laptop are great for the price and it's from a good company.

Also, the GT640m LE is slower than the a10 on the lenovo.

source: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-640M-LE....


Wow really the 96 shader 640m is worse than the 7660m? Should i get that lenovo with the A10 for $512 or the HP DV6z with a better gpu like the 7670m?
Actually that makes sense, cause the notebookcheck page says its got like 300 shaders. :D 

however, it might be more heavy and it is a 15.6 vs the 14 inch.
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October 12, 2012 12:47:20 AM

You many be right junky77, because certain OEMs cheap out on certain parts. This creates a lesser part or bottleneck, so I would not be surprised if the GT 640m could reach those speeds. But also note that AMD's new trinity just came out not to long ago and has excellent power management and is built on piledriver. According to Tom's, it translates into good overclocking.

source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-trinity-e...

Also I would go with the A10 lenovo. It's integrated graphics are about on par with the HP's discrete one, and it does so using less power. Although I do have a thing against HP laptops. I have had to repair so many already in college, it's crazy. Not to mention, I was annoyed by all the bloatware that popped up during start-up. Just my two cents
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October 12, 2012 5:12:48 AM

qzyxya said:
Wow really the 96 shader 640m is worse than the 7660m? Should i get that lenovo with the A10 for $512 or the HP DV6z with a better gpu like the 7670m?
Actually that makes sense, cause the notebookcheck page says its got like 300 shaders. :D 

however, it might be more heavy and it is a 15.6 vs the 14 inch.



Go with the HP DV6z-7000 model. I have a HP DV6z with the Llano GPU (3550MX) and a 7690M, absolutely amazing notebook for it's price. And yes the 1920x1080 screen is amazing though it raises the cost of the notebook by $150 USD. I personally feel the cost is worth it. Also look into getting a 7200RPM drive as a minimum, HP's SSD's are way overpriced and if you want one you should add it later. Finially make absolutely sure you get 8GB (or more) of DDR3-1600 as 2 DIMMs, memory performance it critical to the APU's graphics ability.

On a side note. I used to hate HP's as they were constantly having issues stemming from cheap manufacture. In the past couple of years they've done a complete turn around and their current crop of laptops are amazing quality. I was very hesitant to purchase my first DV6z for the GF (1366x768 3530MX) but was absolutely shocked when I saw how nice it was. It convinced me to get one of my own (DV6z 1920x1080 3550MX) to replace my 19 inch Sony for traveling / working. I use this notebook primarily for when I have to travel to another city on work and live out of a hotel room. Its small enough that it's not killing my back anymore yet provides more then enough performance to game and do various tasks from the hotel room / airport / ect. As a student I think your looking for a cheap notebook that can do light to moderate gaming while being small due to space constraints. The HP DV6z should suit you perfectly.
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October 12, 2012 5:23:40 AM

Something I forgot to mention, be sure to check the memory interface on any dGPU you buy. Many of these dGPU's can use DDR3 or GDDR5 memory. STAY AWAY from the ones using DDR3 memory, that includes nearly every GT 640M. The 640M with DDR3 has absolute crap performance, same deal with the 7730M. The 7670 / 7690 both use GDDR5 so you should be set with those.
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October 12, 2012 5:39:32 AM

Thanks for the heads up palladin9479. HP DV6z should be your first choice then
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October 12, 2012 6:08:08 AM

Let me do some research on the dGPU inside the HP DV6z, they might be doing something sneaky. 7670M can come with either DDR3 or GDDR5, where as my 7690M can only come with GDD5 memory. DDR3 for graphics memory is horrible even if it's at 900Mhz (1800 speed). In which case go with whatever configuration gives you a GDDR5 equiped dGPU.
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October 12, 2012 1:01:36 PM

so if i get the DV6z should i get the 7670m or 7730m>? im confused weather its gddr3 or gddr5. i dont think many laptops in the price range have gddr5
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October 12, 2012 2:41:14 PM

Yeah on amazon the only cheap laptop with dedicated GDDR5 was the acer timeline u m5 which looks pretty good actually for $700. It's got a 14 inch screen, the gddr5 version of the 640m le, and an i5. Could someone else link me to a better laptop with GDDR5 if they find one? Also im still wondering if the HP without gddr5 will be good. thanks
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October 12, 2012 4:28:56 PM


In a dual-graphics set-up with Trinity, you are likely better off with the DDR3 ---- stand-alone desktop discreet the other way.

Don't forget your SSD. That's the best performance upgrade you can make (laptop 5400 RPM drives ain't real high-flyers)



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October 12, 2012 5:15:10 PM

I have a 3550MX with DDR3-1333 memory (stupid HP locking the BIOS options and memory bus to 533) that is crossfired with a 7690M that has 2GB of GDDR5 memory. Zero problems, just use the newer Catalyst drivers as HP's own are absolutely horrible.

Between the 7670M and 7730M I'd go with the 7670M as it can crossfire with the Trinity GPU. I do believe the ones HP are using are DDR3, it seems all the manufacturers are going cheap here, kinda sad.

SSD's are nice but they blow him way over budget, especially on laptops as there is no room for a 2nd disk. I ended up putting a 256GB Samsung 830 into mine, but that was only as later upgrade. This is a student with a limited budget, get a 7200 RPM drive ($20 USD more on the HP) and put the extra money towards a better processor / dGPU / screen.
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October 12, 2012 5:20:51 PM




The 640M LE is a stripped down budget 640M and can only use DDR3. That product info is incorrect, they don't have 1GB of GDDR5 memory as that chip couldn't use it.

Honestly there isn't too many offerings in that range with GDDR5, I got extremely lucky that HP offered the 7690M with the DV6's. They no longer do that and your only choices are the two budget GPU's, one is VLIW4 the other is GCN. The 2GB 7730M is the stronger pure GPU, but it's not capable of linking with the Trinity iGPU. The 7670M on the other hand is perfectly capable of linking with the trinity for boosted performance. With the newer catalyst drivers having built-in support for ACF it's most likely the better choice overall.
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October 12, 2012 5:29:51 PM

palladin9479 said:
The 640M LE is a stripped down budget 640M and can only use DDR3. That product info is incorrect, they don't have 1GB of GDDR5 memory as that chip couldn't use it.

Honestly there isn't too many offerings in that range with GDDR5, I got extremely lucky that HP offered the 7690M with the DV6's. They no longer do that and your only choices are the two budget GPU's, one is VLIW4 the other is GCN. The 2GB 7730M is the stronger pure GPU, but it's not capable of linking with the Trinity iGPU. The 7670M on the other hand is perfectly capable of linking with the trinity for boosted performance. With the newer catalyst drivers having built-in support for ACF it's most likely the better choice overall.


Okay thanks. With the trinity apus is the a8/a10 worth it over the a6? I think il get one of thsoe witha 7200rpm 750gb hdd and a 7670m. just should i get a6 a8 or a10?
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October 12, 2012 5:55:02 PM

qzyxya said:
Okay thanks. With the trinity apus is the a8/a10 worth it over the a6? I think il get one of thsoe witha 7200rpm 750gb hdd and a 7670m. just should i get a6 a8 or a10?



Get an A10 if at all possible. It's two piledriver "modules", basically four "integer" cores and two large FPU's. The big difference is that the iGPU inside the A10 is really nice, the A6 and A8 aren't nearly as nice.
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October 12, 2012 6:40:48 PM

palladin9479 said:
Get an A10 if at all possible. It's two piledriver "modules", basically four "integer" cores and two large FPU's. The big difference is that the iGPU inside the A10 is really nice, the A6 and A8 aren't nearly as nice.

Alright then I'll get the lenovo z585 with the A10 or the DV6z with the A10 and 7670m. Thanks so much guys.
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October 12, 2012 6:53:26 PM

7730m is about double the performance of the 7670m. You won't get double performance from having a 7670m Crossfired with a 7660g, I am very sorry. You would see some gain, but only in the games specifically optimized for AMD's Hybrid Crossfire laptop solution, and there are not many. Get a laptop with a 7730m and use Leshcat's Unified drivers: http://leshcatlabs.net/
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October 12, 2012 7:00:28 PM

A student should:
1. study
2. do sports
3. screw chicks

not play crappy games!
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October 12, 2012 7:07:32 PM

Zingam_Duo said:
A student should:
1. study
2. do sports
3. screw chicks

not play crappy games!


Not necessarily in that order, BTW.... :sol: 
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October 12, 2012 7:29:22 PM

Zingam_Duo said:
A student should:
1. study
2. do sports
3. screw chicks

not play crappy games!


lol
why are you on this site then?

Is the 7730 really 2x better than the crossfired 7670m? Also which games support the crossfire?
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October 12, 2012 7:34:10 PM

There's no official list of games, it's run-and-gun, but yes, a 7730m is a much better GPU, it pretty much will thrash that CF solution. In CF mode, the 7670m+7660g may meet the 7730m in some comparisons but not many. The CF solution will also suffer from microstuttering, which may drive you nuts. The dedicated 7730m will not.

The 7700 mobility series is based on the desktop equivalents, just clocked lower, while the 7600 mobility series is based on the old 6XXX mobility and not nearly as good. Here:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7660G-HD-767...
vs
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7730M.72678....


Also, does the DV6 have a better resolution screen? If it does, you'll want that for sure. I know most people say that it doesn't matter at that size, but I call BS....
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