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x800xt, 6800gt256, or BFG 6800 Ultra

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April 6, 2005 2:22:33 PM

Noticing that the x800xt and ASUS 6800gt256mb can cost as much or lower than a BFG 6800 ultra OC so I might just get the BFG 6800ultra OC but never used this OEM before. Wants to hear the goods and bads of this card or is it better to stick with x800xt. $$$$ is REALLY playing big for me since this is a temporary upgrade.

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April 6, 2005 3:17:12 PM

As far as advantages, the X800XT has a bit more brute strength, where the 6800 series is almost as powerful but sports more advanced shaders.

The X800 series tends to be better with most DirectX games (HL2, Far Cry, UT) and the 6800 series tends to be better with OpenGL games (Doom3).

The 6800's advanced shaders are mostly useless right now but may come into play more in the future. Right now, the advanced 3.0 shaders the 6800 sports are only used in a hadful of games, and cause no real difference in performance or visual quality except in very specific circumstances (like Far Cry, where it allows you to use High-Dynamic-Range lightin effects).

If this is a temporary upgrade - when are you planning to upgrade your platform, and to what?

I'm getting the impression that you have an AGP system right now. If so, the 6800gt or ultra might be your best temporary upgrade bet, because it'll give you 90% of the performance of the X800XT/6800 Ultra for much less price.

The ASUS 6800GT is expensive because it's got the ASUS name brand. Look around, there should be cheaper 6800GT's than that.

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April 6, 2005 4:00:14 PM

Well my rig is using the mobile barton 2500 platform oced to 2.6ghz whit AGP platform. Not going to PCIe untill ATI gets their dual core/card solutions out.

The only reason I was wanting the asus 6800gt is it is using the 6800ultra PCB which will give me stable oc to ultra and past, however it costs just as much as an ultra in the open market. I could go cheaper and get BFG 6800gtoc, pny 6800gt, and others like that but people have been reporting poor stability when trying to OC those cards. If Im to get a 6800gt, would like to up it to ultra without the needs to voltmod the bloody thing for I really dont have that kinda time right now.

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April 6, 2005 4:18:51 PM

Ah crap. I didn't notice it was you posting, thought it was a noob. Sorry for the long and useless explanation, I'm sure you knew all that stuff.

Does the Asus 6800GT on the ultra PCB have the second molex connector? Because I'd imagine that's one of the reasons the ultras are stable... I believe they have two molexes...

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April 6, 2005 4:24:24 PM

I'd go with the X800XT, just because it can outperform the 6800GT, I think you're looking for AGP, therefore I don't see any reason to take the 6800GT over the X800XT(no SLI support). But whatever you prefer, If you can shell out a little extra for the ultra, then slap a waterblock on it, and overclock, Nvidia cards gains more performance when overclocked.
April 6, 2005 5:10:02 PM

The 256mb version of the ASUS 6800gt is using the 6800u PCB with 2 molex connectors, just the part is that the price reflects the ultras. Their 128mb version is using the tradition 6800gt pcb and uses crappy ram and makes poor OCer.

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April 6, 2005 5:15:27 PM

Well clearly Ive got some decision to make on this. Good thing I have about 2 months on this since my girls monitor crapped out on here and going to give her mine and Get the Dell 20" Ultrashap LCD. First needs to recoup $$$$ since I dropped a ton of money to get a house.

Maybe in a couple months, the prices will drop a little more and would make a clearer path to one of these cards. Probably not going to get the ultra but its either the x800xt or 6800gt. Id be happy if I can OC either 2 just to ultra or xt pe.

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April 6, 2005 5:33:28 PM

How much did that Dell cost ya? How much are you looking at for each card?
April 6, 2005 7:55:16 PM

Havent bought the monitor yet but will soon, needs to recoup $$$ first. Im looking to pay no more than 400 bucks and do know the 6800gts Im wanting are a bit higher and x800xt is much higher. If you know where I can get cheap then please convey!

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April 6, 2005 8:00:52 PM

For the monitor I'm not sure how much the 20" will cost you but I've recently bought a 26" LCD TV/Monitor, it supports res of 1280/768, which may sound a bit awkward, but a little configuring games works fine. And That costed me just under 1300CDN after taxes, i'm sure you can find them in the states much cheaper perhaps in the 700 dollars zone.

As for the video card, Sorry man I don't live in the States, don't know much good places. You may consider the All In Wonder X800XL AGP from newegg.com that version of the card currently uses X850XT core(low-k 130nm), not the crappy X800XL core(110nm non-low-k).
April 6, 2005 9:46:25 PM

Ill be dropping about 600 USD for the 20" lcd.

You got my attention for AIW x800xl used the x850 pcb and wondered if they can OC to x850?

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April 6, 2005 9:51:20 PM

Sorry no information yet, i'd have to wait 'til that card becomes available in Canada. Google around, even though I doubt if you'll find much more info.
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