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Why do people use the above term in this country? I understand abroad, but
it's a little too American for my taste... Probably just me...

Evil

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Mikael Schøler wrote:
> Dr Evil wrote:
>> Why do people use the above term in this country? I understand
>> abroad, but it's a little too American for my taste... Probably just
>> me... Evil
>>
>>
> English Premier League? What's so american about that?

Plus we've had the SPL for years and years

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Christo wrote:
> "Mikael Schøler" <mik_s@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message
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>>Dr Evil wrote:
>>
>>>Why do people use the above term in this country? I understand abroad,
>>>but it's a little too American for my taste... Probably just me...
>>>
>>>Evil
>>
>>English Premier League? What's so american about that?
>>
>
>
> its like NFL or NHL which are american leagues in different sports
>
> its just the "premiership" .... whats wrong with that?
>
>
I really cant see what the problem is.. why shouldn't other countries
have short names for their leagues.. This doesnt make it american..

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Mikael Schøler wrote:

> "Mikael Schøler" <mik_s@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message
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> >>Dr Evil wrote:
> >>
> >>>Why do people use the above term in this country? I understand abroad,
> >>>but it's a little too American for my taste... Probably just me...
> >>
> >>English Premier League? What's so american about that?
> >
> I really cant see what the problem is.. why shouldn't other countries
> have short names for their leagues.. This doesnt make it american..

If calling it the EPL is Americanisation, then the BBC is an American
broadcasting institute. So are ITV, the LDP, the RSPCA, and ad inf.
To make it truly Yankified, you either need to force the abbreviated form
into an unnatural pronunciable acronym like EnPreLe or change the name to
make it pronunciable - United Kingdom English Soccer Associated League.
Ah, the new Barcodes are thus born.

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"Christo" <chrisNO-SPAM@NO-SPAMjuststuff.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Mikael Schøler" <mik_s@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message
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>> Dr Evil wrote:
>>> Why do people use the above term in this country? I understand abroad,
>>> but it's a little too American for my taste... Probably just me...
>>>
>>> Evil
>> English Premier League? What's so american about that?
>>
>
> its like NFL or NHL which are american leagues in different sports

Hmm, I dunno, we're not calling it the national premiership or anything,
plus the American system developed out of need to distinguish between other
leagues set up within the same country (although not sure if that ever came
up with Hockey, but there has been multiple American Football leagues in
America). When we start calling the FA Cup the World Super-Match you can
complain.

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"Fil Arkonus" <fil@arkonuspants.f9pants.copants.ukpants> wrote in message
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> "Dr Evil" <twelveinchnob@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Why do people use the above term in this country? I understand abroad,
>> but it's a little too American for my taste... Probably just me...
>
> We don't use the term in this country (England that is) we use it on this
> newsgroup, because it's a multi-national news group.
>
> I actually don't think I do use the term that often but I'd say that is
> the reason for it's use here. That and being a CM/FM newsgroup it makes
> sense to speak to terms most relevent to the game. Whatever country people
> are from here they may be playing all over the place in the game, so it
> makes sense to have the extra clarity.
>
> I dunno, maybe some English people here when in private (verbal)
> converstation with other English people, in England may say "EPL" instead
> of "The Premiership" but I doubt it. I reckon it's just on the net in
> CM/FM relevent forums and possibly other multi-country forums.
>
> --
> Fl
>

I dont think its primaraly people who aren't from england who use the term.
If i started saying EPL all the time im sure a few of my mates would give me
a clip round the ear and tell me to sort it out

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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:03:25 +0800, The Wielder of the Scythe
<scytheNOSPAMWIBBLE@netvigator.com> wrote:

>> >>>Why do people use the above term in this country? I understand abroad,
>> >>>but it's a little too American for my taste... Probably just me...
>> >>
>> >>English Premier League? What's so american about that?
>> >
>> I really cant see what the problem is.. why shouldn't other countries
>> have short names for their leagues.. This doesnt make it american..
>
>If calling it the EPL is Americanisation, then the BBC is an American
>broadcasting institute. So are ITV, the LDP, the RSPCA, and ad inf.
>To make it truly Yankified, you either need to force the abbreviated form
>into an unnatural pronunciable acronym like EnPreLe or change the name to
>make it pronunciable - United Kingdom English Soccer Associated League.
>Ah, the new Barcodes are thus born.

EPL is a phrase used on the Internet... On TV/Radio or in general
conversation I have never heard it called anything other than the
Premiership.

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"Fil Arkonus" <fil@arkonuspants.f9pants.copants.ukpants> wrote in message
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> "Christo" <chrisNO-SPAM@NO-SPAMjuststuff.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>> I dont think its primaraly people who aren't from england who use the
>> term. If i started saying EPL all the time im sure a few of my mates
>> would give me a clip round the ear and tell me to sort it out
>
> To clarify - I never said it was non-English people using the term, I said
> the term was being used partially because of the presence of non-english
> people, and the discussion of non-English leagues and partially because
> CM/FM has multiple "Premier" leagues and the game itself refers to the
> Premiership as the EPL on occasion.
>
> I did say that I doubted English people when speaking to other English
> people in real life (and verbally rather then with text) would probably
> not say EPL. I never even remotely suggested that it was mostly
> non-English people using the term. I can't comment on what the Swedish say
> to other Swedes in private or what Greeks say to other Greeks or
> Brazillians say to other Brazillians but I know the English don't say it
> to the English in private verbal conversation from my own experience.
>
> I will add to things though. We are in a text medium, which means that
> it's easier to write "The EPL" then it is to write "The Premiership" or
> even "The Prem". With speech however it's three syllables either way (4
> including "the" ), so people would probably sway towards "The Premiership".
>
> In short - multi-league discussions in a text format, it's only logical to
> use the term EPL.
>
> --
> Fil
>

logical... love it

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Nick the Greek wrote:

> I call it the EPL in here. I don't use that term when talking to my
> friends cause we haven't yet reached the level of using english words
> or english acronyms in Greek language :-P

I'm not sure you reached the level of using words at all... :-P

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> I did say that I doubted English people when speaking to other English
> people in real life (and verbally rather then with text) would probably
> not
> say EPL. I never even remotely suggested that it was mostly non-English
> people using the term. I can't comment on what the Swedish say to other
> Swedes in private or what Greeks say to other Greeks or Brazillians say
> to
> other Brazillians but I know the English don't say it to the English in
> private verbal conversation from my own experience.
>

Brazilian Media do not say EPL or Premiership, we say in portuguese:
"Primeira Divisão da Inglaterra"
Tks God nobody here talks about yr other divisions as you name it very
weird :-)


Eduardo Liguori
EPL Champion
Chelsea Football Club

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"Eduardo Liguori" <eduliguori@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
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>
> Brazilian Media do not say EPL or Premiership, we say in portuguese:
> "Primeira Divisão da Inglaterra"
> Tks God nobody here talks about yr other divisions as you name it very
> weird :-)

It's mad innit. Bournemouth finally reached Division 1, but only because
they created the Premiership and Div 2 became Div 1 then they renamed Div 1
the Championship and D2 which was the old Div 3 became Div 1.

In a few years the Conference will be Div 1 and well have a sucsession of
"the Championship" names for everything above only sponsored by different
things. Like "The Dorrito's super league" which will be the countries 4th
division.

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Em Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:53:37 +0000 (UTC), Graham Thurlwell
<nospam@jades.org> escreveu:

> On the 27 Jun 2005, "Eduardo Liguori" <eduliguori@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Brazilian Media do not say EPL or Premiership, we say in portuguese:
>> "Primeira Divisão da Inglaterra"
>
> Even then, that literally translates as 'The English Premier Division',
> which sounds pretty logical. Isn't the top-flight in Brazil effectively
> called The Premier Division now?

sorry but "Primeira"(P) means "First"(E), "Premier"(E) would mean
"Principal"(P)
similar words but diferent meanings.

>
> The main problem with using the EPL abbreviation in countries
> that don't speak English is that you need to get past what it actually
> stands for. It's OK for newsgroups, where most people know the common
> abbreviations and acronyms (and in most cases there will be an FAQ
> detailing them), but the average person on the street could be left
> clueless.
>
> Having said that, 'PDI' could quite easily catch on in Brazil, but we'd
> still be left with the cross-language problem - only this time the
> Brits would be looking at the screen saying "Eh?" ;-)

in Brazil we don't use much abreviations, and the real name of our first
division is "Serie A" like in Italy

>
>> Tks God nobody here talks about yr other divisions as you name it very
>> weird :-)
>
> Literal translation will probably do the job, seeing as it doesn't
> make much sense in English anyway. You could always use the proper
> prefix 'The Football League' before using the division name. ;-)
>



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EPL Champion
Chelsea Football Club

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