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Should have bought the AIW instead of 6800GT

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JamesN   05-11-2005 at 05:39:07 PM

Hi,
I am regretting to buy the 6800GT video card. This is because now I want to record the old video tapes onto DVD disks, which means I need to get an add-on video card or a AIW card. Questions:
1. Which video card do I have to get?
2. Any PCI video card out there? I don't want to swap out my 6800GT
3. What software do you use to do this?

Thanks!

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pauldh   05-11-2005 at 06:05:26 PM
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Well, reasons to be sorry would be that the AIW X800XT outperforms your card and was on sale for only $338 at one time. But no need to worry. Video cards and video capture cards are two different things. The AIW series happens to combine them that's all. You won't lose the great gaming of your 6800GT. Just buy a seperate PCI TV Tuner/ Video capture card, which has nothing to do with your current AGP video card.

I'm no expert on this and maybe others can point you toward other hardware based capture devices. But I've used <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122180" target="_new">this one</A> in many systems including 2 of my own. I just use the supplied software, along with the NTI DVD software that came with my burner, as well as Nero 6 suite. Not sure how much better the <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122200" target="_new">PVR model</A> is compared to the expert, and no time to read into it right now. But no worries about adding a separate card instead of buying the AIW. The AIW just might have saved you some money depending where you live. AIWX800XT AGP is a good deal in the USA, but so is a 6800GT AGP.

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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Pauldh on 05/11/05 12:21 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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Cleeve   05-11-2005 at 06:34:07 PM
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The AIW would have been nice, but all is not lost.

Keep your 6800GT, just get an add-in PCI card, the Ati Theater 550 cards have great video capture capability.

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Silver Graphics badge TheGreatGrapeApe   05-12-2005 at 01:20:17 AM
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I'd ask Crashman which he thinks would be best, the Theatre 550 or the Hauppauge series. He's had experience with both I think, and the X800XT as well (*cough* see review front page *cough*).

I heard that of all the theatre 550 cards to get the Sapphire and MSI ones are the ones to go with because they still use the old software which is a little more user friendly and flexible IIRC.


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Silver Graphics badge TheGreatGrapeApe   05-12-2005 at 01:22:41 AM
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Pfft!

GF6800GT was a terrible choice, and so would've been the X800, he shoulda bought an XGI Volari Duo, imagine it, just Awesomgra! :wink:


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pauldh   05-12-2005 at 04:40:26 AM
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The AGP AIW X800XT was on Newegg and Buy.com for $338 shipped after $50 rebate.


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Crashman   05-12-2005 at 09:39:43 AM
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You just need a video input card. These aren't graphics cards, they're input only. A lot of site advertize firewire cards under the name "video input", but that's a complete lie.

Video Input cards have most commonly been TV tuner cards, with the tuner omitted to save money. Today they're less popular than TV tuner cards, which also offer video input.

VHS is low quality, for the best results you'll want a card with the best filters. I'd suggest a Theater 550 series card, from Saphire, Powercolor, etc. These cards are identicle to the ATI TV-Wonder Elite, but don't include the same remote. They're also much cheaper.

You don't need a remote for what you're doing, so I'd go with the cheapest Theater 550 card you can find. Oh, and the software sucks, but it's usable, so you won't have any problems.

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Cleeve   05-12-2005 at 03:25:56 PM
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Doh! AGP! Missed that.

In that gase, the 6800GT was pretty much the best thing he could buy...

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pauldh   05-12-2005 at 09:59:20 PM
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<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102492" target="_new">Retail Box BBA AGP AIW X800XT $333</A> Never mind the extra AIW features, show me an AGP card that outperforms this for $333.


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pauldh   05-13-2005 at 05:39:13 AM
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Yeah, it's going in and out of their one day sale's page I think. Might be a different price tomorrow. But still a good deal for anyone needing it today.



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BirdRobin   05-15-2005 at 07:25:29 PM
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BARF.

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