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ATI X800XL AGP for $250 good deal?

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July 25, 2005 1:02:15 AM

Hi, I currently have a BFG Geforce6800 OC 128mb. I don't know if its just my card that sucks but I can hardly even play Battlefield2 on low, so I want to upgrade to that. So my question is, is the X800XL a good deal?
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2005 1:31:09 AM

What are the rest of your system specs?

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July 25, 2005 1:32:52 AM

Your card is really good, and should run BF2 on high no problem, with 1024/768 res, your system specs will be helpful, and i think you've got some software problems slowing you down.
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a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2005 1:38:13 AM

That's what I was thinking. Let's play "Find the Bottleneck!"

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July 25, 2005 1:45:48 AM

Yeah, that card's good, and just answering to the title of your question, it is a good deal, but only to non-overclockers, overclockers will want the x800xt PE for 100 dollars more.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2005 1:54:42 AM

I just posted some links - he can get an X850XT for $350. $275 if an additional rebate is applicable. It's tigerdirect, so I wouldn't hold my breath on any rebate... :mad: 

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July 25, 2005 1:55:56 AM

Well that's PCI-E, we're talking about AGP here.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2005 2:01:56 AM

:redface: Noob mistake. DOH!

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July 25, 2005 2:24:17 AM

The rest of my system:
Althon XP 2400+
4x AGP motherboard
1gig RAM

My friend has almost identical system specs but he uses a Geforce6800 GT 268mb and runs the game great on high and 2x AA. /shrug
July 25, 2005 2:26:22 AM

Btw if its software problem what could it be? I just formatted my harddrive about two days ago, BF2 still runs like crap. Acturally, before I formatted it I was able to play with low/medium but now I lag even with all low. I installed nvida driver, direct x 9.0c and everything. What could be wrong?
July 25, 2005 2:28:30 AM

chipset drivers latest? sound drivers latest? latest forceware drivers? windows media 9 runtimes?
July 25, 2005 2:44:27 AM

$250 on ATI X800XL AGP is a great price.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2005 3:48:27 AM

PSU?

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July 25, 2005 4:29:25 AM

chipset? Updating forceware right now but not sure if thats gonna be any help. What PSU?

Either way I guess that this is a pretty good deal for the x800XL.
July 25, 2005 4:50:00 AM

It's just that you won't see a major improvement, wait for the 7600gt/ultra cards, or ATI's mainstream cards, Nvidia's 7600 series will carry 12 and 16 pipes, and it should be priced around the same with some newer optimizations.
July 25, 2005 6:43:16 AM

Don't X800XL carry 16 pipeline as well?
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2005 1:08:21 PM

What PSU is in your system?

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July 26, 2005 12:41:11 AM

Hmmm don't know, how do I find out what PSU is in my system?
a b U Graphics card
July 26, 2005 3:09:28 AM

Open up the side of the case and read the label on the side of the PSU. Go ahead and tell us the mfr, model, max CONTINUOUS wattage and Amps on each voltage rail (3.3V, 5V and 12V).

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July 26, 2005 3:25:08 AM

MFR = RaidMAX
Model is KY-520ATX ATX 12V

3.3V +5V +12V -5V -12V +5Vsb Total Output Watt
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26.0a 32.0A 13.0A 0.5A 0.8A 2.0A 420W
a b U Graphics card
July 26, 2005 3:31:38 AM

The 12V rail (<b>13A!</b>)was the sacrificial lamb for the 3.3V and 5V rails. Modern rigs need more in the 12V than the other two. You may very well have issues running the X800XL on this PSU and it may have been causing your stability/performance issues with the 6800 OC.

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July 26, 2005 3:47:10 AM

LOL!! 420WATT PSU WITH 13A 12V RAIL!! My Fortron 300watt has 22A on the 12V rail...
a b U Graphics card
July 26, 2005 12:38:18 PM

Absofuckinlutely amazing!

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July 26, 2005 10:45:00 PM

So I assume I should buy a better power supply?
a b U Graphics card
July 26, 2005 10:48:27 PM

That would be the first place I would start - don't replace the 6800 OC, until you replace that PSU. You could try a Vantec Ion 2 460W, an Enermax noisetaker 495W or a Fortron Blue Storm 500W. All are great PSUs.

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July 27, 2005 1:49:47 AM

I don't like those Vantec psu's, that 12V rail is weak compare to other branded psu's.
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2005 2:34:03 AM

What do you consider weak?! It's a 30A rail!

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July 27, 2005 2:44:21 AM

Oh... I guess the vantec's original Ion series left me with a bad impression of them, the original's 12V rail was horrible, i mean thermaltake horrible. I'd still take Seasonic over Vantec any day.
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2005 11:21:54 AM

True...They're a little pricey, though.

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July 27, 2005 8:14:58 PM

What the heck are rails?
July 28, 2005 10:10:04 AM

Hmm, i am also planning to upgrade my card form G-Force 4 Ti 4200 ( has been thru a lot, though still plays all the games well including doom3 !, but still its time for a change :)  ...)
Anyways, i have been thru a lot of comparison and detailed study aannnddd found out that ATI-X800XL is Preety good and in the race with x800 xt and xtpe versions as far as performing in games is concerned. As far as the 3d mark score is concerned ... it only lacks when switching to higher resolutions such as 1600x... etc ... so i think its a good buy( coz it has all the things such as 16 pipelines and stuff and supports SM2 ( Dx 9c) which is a bit of a drawback but given the price, it rocks :)  :cool: , and if paired with a P4 3G, 2mB L2 and 1G Ram, shud be grand in terms of performance ... (sorry but im not an amd fan, so cant comment in that respect :(  ...)
IFF any body can comment on this combunation too, with the fact that i am still in a dillema abt sata or raid ... it wud be greatly appreciated :) 

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July 28, 2005 10:30:45 AM

well, that was a prompt reply :)  ... Thanx
Abt what u said ... SATA gives no performance increase was a bit of a shock .. coz i was almost with the idea that sata with 10000 rmp is much better that the 5200 rpm segate that i have currently got .. so what is the best buy?? SATA 10,000 rpm, IDE SCSI? , or RAID (which i dunno much abt ... :(  ... ) ... so plz advise ... any further readings on the comparison of the three wud be greatly appreciated ...
Thanx again .

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