NCIX already has the GF7800GT listed

TheGreatGrapeApe · Aug 11, 2005

Canadian ($ 552.57);
<A HREF="http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15841&vpn=256-P2-N518&manufacture=eVGA" target="_new">http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15841&vpn=256-P2-N518&manufacture=eVGA</A>

US; ($ 451.08)
<A HREF="http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15841&vpn=256-P2-N518&manufacture=eVGA" target="_new">http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15841&vpn=256-P2-N518&manufacture=eVGA</A>

Specs mentioned;


* 256-bit GeForce 7800 GT (445MHz clock)
* 256MB 256-bit 2ns (8x32) GDDR3 Memory
* PCI Express x16 Compatability
* Integrated NVIDIA TV Encoder with S-Video, Composite Output
* Integrated NVIDIA VIVO with S-Video, Composite Input
* Dual DVI-I Connectors
* 32GB per second memory bandwidth


Unfortunately nothing about pipelines, nor ROPs.

Pretty nice prices IMO, and close to the $449US mentioned by Xbit, what's 2 buck between friends? :lol:

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Edited by TheGreatGrapeApe on 08/10/05 10:24 PM.

Ned_Flanders · Aug 11, 2005

200 Cent.

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Aug 11, 2005

LOL! :tongue:

BTW, some specs (20pixel pipes 7 vertex) and some benchies;

<A HREF="http://forum.ncix.com/forums/displaylink.cfm?link=http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalue/evalue/graphics/0508/687052.html" target="_new">http://forum.ncix.com/forums/displaylink.cfm?link=http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalue/evalue/graphics/0508/687052.html</A>

Looking pretty nice, outdistances the G6800U and X850XTPE by a good margin, and stays close to the GTX.

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pauldh · Aug 11, 2005

That's hilarious they are selling them already. Is that $2 over list, $48 under list, or $52 over list?

Wow, it spanks the 6800U and X850XTpe in Farcry. Looks like a big seller.

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emogoch · Aug 11, 2005

What the hell?!?!?!? It'll all chinese or something. Can I get some english benchmarks?

However, if it does work well, I might have to go with it rather than the GTX. Save myself $150 + taxes (@15%), which I can definitly use.

Gamer_369 · Aug 11, 2005

I believe the actual benchmarks begin on page 8 or something. But I don't think that site liked me very well.

Nice results. It's good to see such prosperous FPS in the titles that used to only be acieved somewhat by SLI (not always in 1600x1200 or smaller, though).

I think it would be interesting if the price of the GT dropped like its sister the GTX. Perhaps not a drastic $100 decrease, but atleast $50 within the next few weeks would be nice.

pokemon · Aug 11, 2005

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150108" target="_new">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150108</A>

Heres one from Newegg at $420. Now I'm tempted to use EVGA's step-up program. An extra $70, I think I will.

850mhz... How fast are you?
<A HREF="http://www.big-boys.com/articles/leeroy.html" target="_new">Leeroy you phenom!</A>Edited by Pokemon on 08/11/05 12:57 PM.

emogoch · Aug 11, 2005

Only <A HREF="http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sort=0&Nav=|c:1558|c:1560|lp:500:hp:999.99|&Recs=30" target="_new">Canadian retailer</A> I've seen so far to have them listed.

Not that I'd actually recommend going out and buying them from Tiger Direct. Just saying that there is supposed Canadian availability.

emogoch · Aug 11, 2005

FYI Guys.

<A HREF="http://www.3dchipset.com" target="_new">3DChipset.com</A> has a bunch of linkies to several reviews on the 7800GT, including one from Anandtech.

RX8 · Aug 11, 2005

Every major Computer shop of good rep and online store has them instock in England plenty instock at my LCS.

 Dont expect Miracles humans made them. The blind are easily led by the blind

pauldh · Aug 11, 2005

Thx for the link, reading [H]'s review right now. Pricewatch has tons of them if you search for 7800GT. Prices starting at $404. <A HREF="http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=LT-P7800GT&c=pw" target="_new">Cheapest 7800GTX is a $468</A>.

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pauldh · Aug 11, 2005

Have you noticed these things are clocked all over the place? Cores are 400, 425, 445, 450 and mem 1000, 1050, 1070 or 1076. The faster ones so far are priced almost as high as the 7800GTX at eWiz.

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Edited by Pauldh on 08/11/05 04:21 PM.

pickxx · Aug 11, 2005

In the [H] Forums it says how to get a BFg 7800GT for $340 plus tax from dell.
Thats only slightly below MSRP....roughly 25% msrp

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pauldh · Aug 11, 2005

Gotta love Dell for those stackable coupon codes. If I had a PCI-e mobo, I'd order that one today.

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pauldh · Aug 11, 2005

AaaHAAA! Hmm, reading into [H]'s <A HREF="http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODAzLDE0" target="_new">conclusion</A>, this quote below just screams he knows something about R520. Maybe not and these 16-pipe R520 B3D rumors are getting to me, but it just seems like a good possibility they have their hands on one and we will see this comment further explained soon. Seeing as you are pretty good at reading into things, what do you think?

We know many people get caught up in pipeline counts debate lately. The GeForce 7800 GTX does have 24 pixel pipelines and 16 ROPs, while the GeForce 7800 GT has 20 pixel pipelines. We are starting to move into a time now however where pipeline count really isn’t as important as a performance indicator as it used to be. In the past, you could simply look at the fillrate and guess the performance. With video cards today, I think we need to start moving beyond this kind of thinking and not get so caught up in the details that may sway our purchasing decisions. Definitions and architectures are changing; how a pipeline is defined is changing; and how performance is derived from fillrate is changing. We should simply look at the game play performance and image quality delivered by each card and make an informed purchase decision based on that criteria.

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KCjoker · Aug 11, 2005

Looks like a great card and in a few weeks the price drop should make it a good value. Now it's up to ATI to get their cards out, hurry the hell up!!

RX8 · Aug 12, 2005

There not much in the price between the GTX and GT, and thers not much difference in performance, just like the gt and ultra was last year.

 Dont expect Miracles humans made them. The blind are easily led by the blind

pauldh · Aug 12, 2005

Well, as pickxx said above, bargains are out there.

$331 or $331 + tax is quite the bargain for this beast. Quote from <A HREF="http://www.techbargains.com/" target="_new">techbargains</A>:

"BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC 256 MB GDDR3 PCI Express Graphics Card $331, Aug 11
Dell Home has the super fast BFG GeForce 7800GT OC 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express Graphics Card with VIVO, Dual DVI on sale for $488.95 - 20% discount in your cart - $60 off code: M2VMLSN9QBGT3T Exp Fri 8/12 5:59am CT = $331.16 shipped free. Add $11.05 to pass $500. $619 at newegg. Review

Tax in CA, GA, FL, ID, IL, KY, MI, MN, MS, MO, NV, NJ, NC, NY, OH, OK, PA, TN, TX, WA, VA, WI. "

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pauldh · Aug 12, 2005

At lauch, there was more than a $100 difference between street prices and (availablity) of the 6800GT and the Ultra. So the Ultra made little sense to me. But with 7800GTX selling for almsot $100 under list price and the 7800GT selling for $450+ at some sites, I'd go 7800GTX for sure over a higher clocked list price GT. Even looking at $404 for the XFX or EVGA GT, I'd be looking for the GTX. Personally, I'd definately spend $50 more for the GTX. Of course, based on list price, Dell has the GT for $331 and the GTX is $473 through them. (more than EWiz $468) So the GT through Dell is the bargain now.

So (best US prices I know now)
BFG 7800GT OC for $331+ tax from Dell
vs.
$468 Leadtech 7800GTX from EWiz
=
I'd say,Dude go to Dell before they are gone.

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addiarmadar · Aug 12, 2005

Ive noticed that too and find it really a marketing f-up. They made the 7800GT too close to the GTX. BFG has a water-cooled version at 470mhz which is higher than their 7800gtx OC. There is not much difference as far as pixel pipes and v-pipes so one might as well get the 7800GT and OC it a little.

Even the benchies are relative the same as the GTX. Wierd...

Only an overclocker can make a computer into a convectional oven.

KCjoker · Aug 12, 2005

The benchies are close because of CPU bottleneck for the two cards. If we can get better CPU's and some new game engines we'll see more differences.

TheGreatGrapeApe · Aug 12, 2005

Not much time, busy day/night, but just a quickie. :evil:

Only Canadian retailer I've seen so far to have them listed.

NCIX is a Canadian site, located in Burnaby. So tigerdirect would've been the second unless you missed NCIX at the very top of the page. :tongue:

3DChipset.com has a bunch of linkies to several reviews on the 7800GT, including one from Anandtech.

Yeah the thing is when I posted in the AM it still wasn't launched yet. :lol:

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Aug 12, 2005

Yeah the [H] results are interesting and it's true. There are certain advantages to the design of the G70 series, but really they are about conserving the space on a die or using it better.

It's only slightly larger than a 16/16 (fragment engine / ROP) and performs better, but it's smaller/cheaper than a 24/24 chips and would only perform worse in a few situations (mainly single texture). But don't anyone mistake this for a deeper pipe, they are simply relying on the reality that in most cases there are multiple passes and such that leave the ROPs with nothing to output, therefore the impact of 24/16 isn't goinf to make much difference. Of course 24/24 will outperform and should never underperform, but whether it's noticeable in actual games would be the issue, and likely it won't be so it's a very wise move especially if you can increase marhins, and hopefully lower prices.

Now the unified shader future is REALLY going to throw people for a loop when it come to calculating power. It could have dynamically (pixel/vertex) 32/12 one moment and the next 16/28 depending on the requirements, and then you'd not really be able to compared raw rates in games so much as the efficiencies in alternating those loads that happen so fast you wouldn't know what is pushing hardest except to look at the way the older architectures handle the same situation.

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pauldh · Aug 12, 2005

Yeah, I agree many games are cpu limited. But stress the cards alot (see Anand review) and the GTX blows out the GT. Of course as seen in [H]'s review is a matter of just reducing one IQ setting (AA, Softshadows, etc.) and the GT's has GTX framerates. But the GT can not handle the best playable settings of the GTX in any game test but HL2.

Basically to me the GT is very impressive, but it is no GTX. Sure, a reviewer could run 100 tests and show idetical results, but a good reviewer who knows how to stress the GPU's will clearly show that the GT is far behind the GTX under certain conditions. They are not equal, but unless it's a top notch system with a monitor capable of running 1600x1200 or higher, they will look equal.

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pauldh · Aug 12, 2005

So basically I'm gonna have to be re-edumacted. Great, exactly what I needed; nothing better to do. I should be excited yet instead feel overwelmed.

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NCIX already has the GF7800GT listed

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