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November 5, 2012 2:43:57 PM

Hi guyz I'm kinda new here & in need of immediate help.
I have been offered a laptop by HP specs are:
3rd gen i7
8gb RAM
Intel HD 4000 Integrated
Nvdia GT 650M 2GB
Hybrid Drive of 750 GB and a full HD 15inch screen with a Blu-Ray Player
Now I'm intending to play heavy games do a little bit of programming (fresher at computer science engeneering) and it will be a dual booting machine running Win7 ultimate & Ubuntu side by side. Now suggest please and keep in mind the budget...under 1200$

EDIT:
Just got a scholarship will be able to spend 1600$ or just a bit more now lets have your opinions again getlemen shall we??? :bounce: 
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November 5, 2012 3:01:54 PM

what budget? and that look like a good spec.
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November 5, 2012 3:21:48 PM

Tibbs01 said:
It will depend on what you define as heavy games. See here for benchmarks: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.718...

Note that most demanding games like BF3 etc. you are looking at low-medium details.



What I do want is to run games like witcher 2 n battlefield 3 at the highest possible settings and i would like to know the best combo possible regarding the whole specs
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November 5, 2012 3:28:53 PM

I would like it to run games for the next 4 years without much of a hitch so tell me based on that what laptop should i choose
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November 5, 2012 3:30:26 PM

rgd1101 said:
what budget? and that look like a good spec.


Budget is 1000-1200$
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November 5, 2012 3:32:38 PM

Amartya said:
What I do want is to run games like witcher 2 n battlefield 3 at the highest possible settings and i would like to know the best combo possible regarding the whole specs


What is your budget?, you've not mentioned it, $800/1000/1200?.
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November 5, 2012 3:38:20 PM

Hiii said:
What is your budget?, you've not mentioned it, $800/1000/1200?.


1200$
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November 5, 2012 3:52:11 PM

you better wait a little. The GX60 is coming out soon.
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November 5, 2012 3:53:42 PM

Going a little over my budget and I am getting almost the same at 1150$, how much of a difference does GT750 make?
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November 5, 2012 3:58:20 PM

calmlikeabomb said:
you better wait a little. The GX60 is coming out soon.




Can you send me the specs?
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November 5, 2012 5:34:26 PM

Quote:
3rd gen i7
8gb RAM
Intel HD 4000 Integrated
Nvdia GT 650M 2GB
Hybrid Drive of 750 GB and a full HD 15inch screen with a Blu-Ray Player

the budget...under 1200$


This is do able the lenovo Y580 has this.

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I would like it to run games for the next 4 years without much of a hitch so tell me based on that what laptop should i choose


The gt650M probably wont be able to run games for the next 4 years. I dont know if the gtx 680M will be able to.

If you want future proofing get a desktop.
"Heavy gaming" on a laptop comes at a hefty price. The blu ray player also on most laptops has a large price tag. You are looking at a laptop around. 1500-1600ish for a gtx 675M, a blu ray player, and a Hybrid drive. A 680 is even more. Gaming is doable at your budget. But most "gaming laptops" below 1500 do not come with blu ray standard. You will need to make compromises.

Sager is a brand I would suggest checking out in your budget.
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November 5, 2012 5:41:58 PM

OK i have this specs from an HP suppose I cut off the Blu Ray then what is the max upgrade in GPU that i can get in around that budget
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November 5, 2012 5:54:50 PM

lenovo Y580 1k +-100 I think I listed the modle you might like. GTX 660M.

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/Len...

Sager Notebooks
www.sagernotebooks.com

np9130 1200 you could "downgarde" the cpu to the i7-3610QM to save $50 and for an extra 55 you could get a blu ray player. This has a gtx 670M.

http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_cus...

If you wish to go over budget I might suggest the 17" sager np9170 or the 15" np9150. You could get them for 1269 if you upgrade the hdd to 750GB. It has a gtx 675M
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November 5, 2012 5:56:53 PM

Ok two very interesting laptops thank you........
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November 5, 2012 5:57:37 PM

The sager would be a better quality and a better gaming machine.
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November 5, 2012 6:41:23 PM

You have no chance of running high end games maxed out for the next 4 years on a $1200 laptop or any other laptop.
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November 5, 2012 8:04:33 PM

hafijur said:
In essence a gtx 680m can reach 8000 3dmark11 fine. Anyway a gtx 675m is a pile of junk especially now a 670mx and 675mx are out no need for 3 year old architecture cards like 675m 40nm fermi junk thats ancient.

I think if the op can get one of the new 670mx cards he will be fine for gaming but a 650m will play games at 720p perfectly and 1080p no aa and medium high most games. Watch youtube clips of 650m in action if you don't believe me. Its the aa that kills gpu's performance and hence 680m's are needed.


Good to know that there out where are they???? Following the links on nvidia's website they list laptops with the regular cards. Alienware, cyberpower, and digital storm do not have these laptop cards. who knows what the price on these will be. Odds are that they will not fit in his budget. a 670m is probably the best performance he can get in his budget. My suggestions were of machines with better specs then a 650m.
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November 5, 2012 8:33:59 PM

hafijur said:
http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-laptop-configurator.asp...

Just went on here. changed it to 670mx and the price is under $1200. 670mx is more powerful then a 675m and takes 40% less electricity in doing so.

You can see here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-670MX.8...

Then again a 675m is virtually 3 years old tech based gpu now. Imagine in 3 more year time it would be basically 6 year old tech.


Interetsting didn't know sager had them in there machines

also the laptop is overbudget because it does not come with an os.

The gtx675m is still more powerful then the 670mx occording to Nvidia's website.

"Charge ahead with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M, up to 60% faster than GeForce GTX 660M"
"Charge ahead with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670MX, up to 35% faster than GeForce GTX 660M"

Also there are no benchmarks on the card so its hard to say time will tell.
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November 5, 2012 8:56:36 PM

Amartya said:
I would like it to run games for the next 4 years without much of a hitch so tell me based on that what laptop should i choose


Let's bring reality back into the mix.

If you were to run Witcher2 on s $1200 Desktop (+monitor) from 4 years ago you wouldn't be running 1080p with everything on without a hitch.

Today's gaming laptops are plenty potent, but your expectations may be a bit too high for any hardware solution in existance. :-)
(Your choice of words and in particular and Witcher 2 and similar games.)

Even the most expensive gaming laptops ($1500 and higher for single-gpu) are a small step behind their desktop counterparts as they are now similar GPUs, but are underclocked and may use slower RAM to meet the lower power requirements of laptops. Right now, $1200 will play most games with only the rare few requiring you to turn down some settings. 4 years from now, it will still play just fine, it will simply require medium-high settings or so.

You are looking at high-mid-tier gaming laptops with your budget.
Look up MSI, Sager, and white-box versions of those two sporting 670mx or 675mx from boutique retailers like gentechpc, xoticpc, or powernotebooks. (or similar there are lots) The 670mx and 675mx are underclocked versions of the Desktop 660. (although the 675mx actually has 256-bit ram!)

One word of warning
670m and 675m (minus the x) are fermi versions of the desktop 460 192-bit and 560ti respectively. They are fine GPUs, but multiple steps behind the 670mx and 675mx. Sager has a deal right now where they actually give you a 675m (no x) for the price of a 670m (no x again). This isn't such a bad deal for the price for those willing to tweak settings. Note fermi chips do run warmer... but the cooling systems in the laptops we are talking about are more than capable.

FYI the 675m is only about 7 months old. (rebrand of 580m which is 17 months old or so)
The 560Ti it is based on is about 2 years old.
(someone claimed it was 3 years old... it's not)

One other possible lead is the GX60 from MSI. It sports a powerful 7970m (a slightly underclocked desktop 7870) and an A10-4600 AMD Trinity. This is much less CPU, but the second-best GPU available now. Don't go this way if your favorite games are CPU-limited.

If you could some save another $300 ($1500 total) it would put you in the market for a Sager I7+ 7970m or maybe even a white-box MSI 680m.
The 680m is a downclocked desktop GTX 670 with slower RAM, and for the moment the performance king in mobile GPUs.
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November 5, 2012 9:52:29 PM

I take notebook check seriously. And It does not have much information on the gtx mx series. At least as far as benchmarks go. We all agree that the gtx 660, 670, 675, 670mx, and 675mx are better then the gt 650.

Anyway. OP the choice is yours. I would suggest the lenovo if you do not want to get close to your top end. And the sager if you want to be at your budget.
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November 5, 2012 10:40:33 PM

Oh come now, let's keep it real.

Fermi is not miles worse than Kepler.
Kepler is indeed better, but its not by the leaps and bounds you seem to believe.
My point of course, is that for the right price, it might make sense.

The 675m (Fermi) is ever-so-slightly (~15%) slower than a 670mx (Kepler) and even the 670m beats the 660m by ~15%. (assuming stock clocks and up-to-date drivers all around)

650m and 660m are fully functional GK107s when paired with GDDR5. There is no crippling at all. The only arguement there would be clock rates, and even the average 660m with its legs fully stretched has a hard time matching a 670m in the same state, let alone a 675m.

(Warning: overclocking a laptop is not recommended for the vast majority of users. It requires a lot of prior knowledge, furthur reading, monitoring, testing, and strength of pocketbook.)

haf is indeed correct about most of the game market while previous-gen consoles hold back the game tech level. However, there are games like Witcher2. :-)

A word on notebookcheck. Their tests are the absolute worst any GPU will ever do. If you can handle upgrading drivers, uninstalling bloatware, and a few non-overclocking system tweaks, you will score much better than they do. They also do NOT update drivers for their comparisons. You just have to take it for what its worth.
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November 6, 2012 4:40:06 PM

jackspeed said:
The sager would be a better quality and a better gaming machine.


Budget extension guyz 1600$ now..... :D 
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November 6, 2012 4:56:50 PM

jackspeed said:
The sager would be a better quality and a better gaming machine.


Budget extension guyz 1600$ now..... :D 
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November 6, 2012 4:57:00 PM

Clevo 170 EM aka Sager NP9170 (* items are upgrades)

17.3" Full HD 1080P LED-Backlit with Super Clear (1920 x 1080) Display
Switchable GPU by NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology
-Intel® GMA HD 4000 GPU
-NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 675MX 4GB GDDR5 Memory*
Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz)
Intel® HM77 Express Chipset
No Windows OS (get that at school for $10 or $25)
16GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 4 X 4GB*
750GB Seagate Momentus XT ST750LX003 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 8GB SSD Hybrid*
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Intel® Centrino™ Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo Module*
8 cells smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 76.96Wh
Integrated Fingerprint Reader
FREE UPS Ground
$100 Max Discount (Use Promo Code SAGER100OFFOVER1350)
High Definition audio interface
S/PDIF digital output
Built-in Microphone
Built-in two speakers made by Onkyo
Built-in one sub-woofer
External 7.1CH audio output supported by headphone, microphone, S/PDIF and Line-in jack
THX TruStudio Pro
Illuminated Full size keyboard with numeric pad
W/A/S/D gaming key
Integrated touchpad with Multi-gesture and Scrolling function
1 HDMI 1.4a output Port (with HDCP)
1 DVI-I output Port (single link)
1 DisplayPort 1.1 output Port
1 USB 2.0 Port
3 USB 3.0 Ports (One powered USB port, AC/DC)
1 eSATA Port (USB 3.0 combo)
1 Mini IEEE 1394a Port
1 Headphone Jack
1 Microphone Jack
1 S/PDIF output Jack
1 Line-in Jack
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)
9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)
2 MiniCard Slots
Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Built-in 2.0M Digital Video Camera
Kensington® Lock

Total $1,599

Great service and support from LPC Digital by the way
http://www.lpc-digital.com/sager-np9170-features.html
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November 6, 2012 5:05:10 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Clevo 170 EM aka Sager NP9170 (* items are upgrades)

17.3" Full HD 1080P LED-Backlit with Super Clear (1920 x 1080) Display
Switchable GPU by NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology
-Intel® GMA HD 4000 GPU
-NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 675MX 4GB GDDR5 Memory*
Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz)
Intel® HM77 Express Chipset
No Windows OS (get that at school for $10 or $25)
16GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 4 X 4GB*
750GB Seagate Momentus XT ST750LX003 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 8GB SSD Hybrid*
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Intel® Centrino™ Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo Module*
8 cells smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 76.96Wh
Integrated Fingerprint Reader
FREE UPS Ground
$100 Max Discount (Use Promo Code SAGER100OFFOVER1350)
High Definition audio interface
S/PDIF digital output
Built-in Microphone
Built-in two speakers made by Onkyo
Built-in one sub-woofer
External 7.1CH audio output supported by headphone, microphone, S/PDIF and Line-in jack
THX TruStudio Pro
Illuminated Full size keyboard with numeric pad
W/A/S/D gaming key
Integrated touchpad with Multi-gesture and Scrolling function
1 HDMI 1.4a output Port (with HDCP)
1 DVI-I output Port (single link)
1 DisplayPort 1.1 output Port
1 USB 2.0 Port
3 USB 3.0 Ports (One powered USB port, AC/DC)
1 eSATA Port (USB 3.0 combo)
1 Mini IEEE 1394a Port
1 Headphone Jack
1 Microphone Jack
1 S/PDIF output Jack
1 Line-in Jack
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)
9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)
2 MiniCard Slots
Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Built-in 2.0M Digital Video Camera
Kensington® Lock

Total $1,599

Great service and support from LPC Digital by the way
http://www.lpc-digital.com/sager-np9170-features.html


17.3 gets too big to lug around and is dual booting going to coz a problem especially GPU driver issues with Ubuntu??
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November 6, 2012 5:24:27 PM

If you want a really portable laptop with beef power...

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np6110-clevo-w110er-p-4343...

11.6" with HDMI output (sweet gaming on big screen TV)
i7-3630QM
8gb RAM 1600mhz
Intel HD 4000 Integrated
Nvdia GT 650M 2GB
520 intel 120GB HDD 500+ read/write
No OS
Free shipping

I got it for less than 1050 a couple months ago. I think it's probably cheaper now.
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November 6, 2012 5:28:20 PM

burmese_dude said:
If you want a really portable laptop with beef power...

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np6110-clevo-w110er-p-4343...

11.6" with HDMI output (sweet gaming on big screen TV)
i7-3630QM
8gb RAM 1600mhz
Intel HD 4000 Integrated
Nvdia GT 650M 2GB
520 intel 120GB HDD 500+ read/write
No OS
Free shipping

I got it for less than 1050 a couple months ago. I think it's probably cheaper now.



Dude portability is an issue but the graphics processor you have mentioned is gonna get outdated in barely 3years and I would want it to give high performance for the next 4 years on demanding games
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November 6, 2012 6:52:00 PM

I dont like Windows 8 besides have an ultimate original windows 7 so non OS aptops if I can get them that bit cheaper
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November 6, 2012 7:27:43 PM

Then sagernotebooks is your place. otherwise I could list some sager resellers.
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November 6, 2012 7:35:24 PM

Amartya said:
Dude portability is an issue but the graphics processor you have mentioned is gonna get outdated in barely 3years and I would want it to give high performance for the next 4 years on demanding games


It matches your original post spec and that's the best GPU you can get I believe anything 13" and under. Maybe even 14". If you're willing to carry 15" or above, disregard my post.
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November 7, 2012 2:56:14 AM

Ya but I updated my budget remember!!!
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November 7, 2012 2:59:03 AM

burmese_dude said:
It matches your original post spec and that's the best GPU you can get I believe anything 13" and under. Maybe even 14". If you're willing to carry 15" or above, disregard my post.



Ya am ready to carry 15.6 inch........
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November 7, 2012 1:42:37 PM

Between saegar and MSI which has better build quality?
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November 7, 2012 6:16:57 PM

Amartya said:
Between saegar and MSI which has better build quality?


... with your budget and the lack of customizability(ie model choices) on the msi gt60 I would suggest sager. I personally believe that msi's build quality is slightly better.
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