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I bought a FX 5200 pci today (don't hate, brand new and 10$)

I got better 3dmark scores then my radeon 7000 but the real messed up and impossible thing about is my fill rate. Single ~500 fine (should be higher though about 70% of theoretical) and Multi at 292 mtexels/s!

That's absolutly impossible, how can multi be lower than single. Retarded multi can only be greater due to TMU or equal but not lower. I retested and tested and same bull.

Please help, is this card defective?
 
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SOrry had to reply cuz i need an answer

Multitexturing - 292 mtexels/s
single texturing - 568 mtexels/s
[ NO SENSE ]

Do i return it?
 
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Isn't Multitexturing more taxing on the card, thus the lower fill rate?

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Gotta agree there...[/confused]

Since you're comparing <i>scores</i> with your old card, did that behave as you seem to expect?

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Actually, having checked it out the two tests differ in a few ways, and the multi-texturing test is usually much faster.

Did you remove all old Ati drivers fully before installing the 5200?

To be fair though, if gaming performance was important to you you wouldn't have bought a PCI 5200, so why care? :wink:

Joking aside, it's either a Drivers issue or a 3dmark one.

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To be fair though, if gaming performance was important to you you wouldn't have bought a PCI 5200, so why care?
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lol, good one man.

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LOL gaming is important to me, basically using that 7000 served me well (surprisingly) And ur right the 5200 is temporary but i still spent the cash so i do want some return.

So i exchanged it today and i still get the same bull. So what'll do is double check if all ati drivers have been properly uninstalled.

I doubt it's a 3dmark01 bug, i tryed 03 and couldn't get pass test 4 (nature) due to the constant restarting of my comp. btw starts ok though at 15fps

Forgot to answer u chip,
my radeon 7000: 1 pipeline, 3 texture units, core: 166.5mhz
single 132.3 mtexels/s
multi 364.1 mtexels/s
my Fx 5200: 4 pipelines, 1 or 2(not sure) texture units per pipeline, core: 250mhz (advertised 280mhz)
single 589 mtexels/s
multi 292 metexels/s<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Untruest on 08/22/05 03:22 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
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Hold up there, did you say this card is using the old PCI interface, not even AGP?

Your bandwidth is so limited that I would be surprised if your benchmarks would be on par with an AGP 5200 card. Expect the ancient PCI bus to be a formidable roadblock in the way of decent performance...

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I am well aware of the bandwidth over the pci bus, and giving how my sound card and nic card and other pheripherals r on it, i'd imagine the same but that's off topic and in 3dmark01 i am scoring 3500+ not bad from 800 on my radeon 7000.

But please stick to the topic
 
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The only thing thats truely impossible would be a woman standing on the ground and pissing over a five rail fence :tongue: [/Uncalled for]

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Not so much uncalled for, but just plain wierd :lol:

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I cant help myself!

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I doubt it's a 3dmark01 bug, i tryed 03 and couldn't get pass test 4 (nature) due to the constant restarting of my comp. btw starts ok though at 15fps
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Any chance of elaborating on this "constant restarting"? I would address stability issues before performance ones. An inadequate PSU could cause that - although it's unlikely to be the cause of your other problem.

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You sound like you are pointing out things that are irrelevant.

This fellow reminds me of a troll we used to have here... what was his name? He used to come in here and spill all sorts of technical sounding gobbledygook about as many random factors as he could, and would ask everybody to help him figure out the problem.

Anybody remember that guy's name?

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I'd like to tell u the error message but the computer restarts before i can read the blue screen. I check the logs and can't find anything relevant and i forgot how to disable the automatic restarting after a blue screen. But it always happens in the same place on test 4.
 
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My Compter>Properties>Advanced>Startup & Recovery (Settings)>Then disable the automatic restart tick box

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THanks here's what the message says:

"A problem has been detected by windows and has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

If it's ur 1st time restart... if not

Run a diagnostic utility supplied by ur hardware manufacturer.In particular, run a memory check, and check for faulty or mismatched memory. Try changing video adapters.

Disable or remove any newly installed hardware/software and drivers.

Tech info
*** STOP: 0x0000007F (0x0000000D,0x00000000,0x00000000,0x000000000)

Begging dump of physical mem
completed
contact..."

SO, i ran memtest just yesterday and it detected no errors.
I do remember one of my logs saying something was trying to write to an invalid I/O address, i wonder if that's related.
 
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What about background apps? you run any stuff like Office Findfast, Activesync, or anything else that just sits there doing nothing 90% of the time? Try disabling as much extra stuff as possible and seeing if you still get the problem.

I would advise running <A HREF="http://www.memtest86.com/" target="_new">memtest86</A> for a few hours, to see if you have a memory problem.

What power supply do you have? Make and wattage? Failing PSUs are a common cause of problems.

Temps? I guess it <i>could</i> be an overheating problem, but it doesn't really sound like one to me.

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ah sorry you hadn't said you'd already run memtest when I wrote that one :smile: .

In light of the I/O error, I'd suggest pulling all the other PCI cards out to see if there's a conflict somewhere. Could be. Maybe even just using a different slot for the 5200 would help.

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I don't run any of that stuff in the background. Only things running are an anti-virus software and windows operating apps, like explorer and svchost...

As for PSU i have a no name 320Watt. It has limited details on the label but once i try to remove my other pci cards, i'll tell u exactly what it says.

Temps r generally low, not any higher than 40 C cpu and 30 Board. Well within grasp.
 
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320 watt generic? That might be your problem.

You should be using a 400+ watt generic or a solid 350+ watt name brand psu.

<b>Damnit, does anybody remember that guy's name? (see previous post in thread)</b>

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