So....crossfire sucks...

[GeneticWeapon]

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[Ned_Flanders]

Hmmm, not AS bad as you make it out to be in the title but definatly not a bonus :frown:

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[GeneticWeapon]

<b>No acceptable hi rez gaming on expensive, cutting edge, uber leet equipment isnt bad?</b>

Do you drink?

nVidia has completely <i>owned</i> ATi now......I need to go sit down

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[GeneticWeapon]

....<i>actually...I was already sitting down</i>.....

A unified pipeline is coming....expect big things.

 

[theholylancer]

hmm well the people there does have a good point, if i don't have a large arse screen why would i need all that power from a multi GPU graphics solution? i hope that this is not ture as that if this is then nvidia will soon be the only major good videocard chipset maker out there and they could have a cold while all of us will suffer for it....

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[GeneticWeapon]

i hope that this is not ture

It's ture

Reviewers are already benching the setups right now.

A unified pipeline is coming....expect big things.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I don't game over 1280 anyway. Just my opinion, don't bite me!

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[GeneticWeapon]

Sorry.

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[Action_Man]

I don't think its that bad. I'd rather have more AA and AF then have > 1600x1200 rez. But thats just me. Also wouldnt this only effect R400 series cards? Not that big a deal.

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[pauldh]

I had just seen that on the inq this morning. That does suck. ATI thinks it can make things better by saying 99% of people don't game at that resolution...well, duh, think about it ATI. 99% of people don't invest in dual graphics cards. You are trying to grab that 1% right? A single X850XT can handle 1280x1024 max. Why on earth would anyone do dual X850XT never mind dual R520, if they don't want to game at 1600x1200. And a 60Hz refresh isn't going to cut it. Huge blow to crossfire in my eyes.

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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

I agree that's a BIG drawback (if true, Ratchet's statement overall is incorrect since gaming at higher resolutions is possible especially since the cable length in question is inches, not feet). I'll go on the assumption he's correct despite his recent propensity to stir the pot of unfounded rumours.

One of the ONLY reasons I thought SLi and Crossfire are a good option for people are for those who game at high res, especially on the DELL/HP/SONY 24" LCDs.

And THAT is the supposed market for these things the people who buy the large LCDs and the 21+" CRTS capable of 1900x1200 and 2048x1536+ resolutions. Especially the LCDs which you wouldn't want to scale down from Native.

While this doesn't affect me (prefr to game @ 14x10 or 16x12 on my CRT), nor will it affect most ATi users and most of their sales, but if you're making a niche ubber product then it needs to support those high end features, otherwise there's really no point to bringing it out. That the majority of people don't game above 16x12 is a lame reason for them, especially considering their promotion of HD gaming.

I'd be surprised if the TMDS is the limitation it is said to be especially since their last X850XTPE was dual link, but we shall see. If there's truth to it it's kinda of silly for the market they are choosing.

No time to read whole thing at work.

EDIT: I wonder what the integrated TMDS is on the R520, did they confirm it?

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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheGreatGrapeApe on 09/16/05 09:22 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

BTW, reading his link to Si is somewhat misleading too. The maximum resolution is not 16x12 it's closer to 19x12/19x14 but with reduced blanking (which probably isn't needed for the processing [a guess but one I wouldn't be surprised fits the model]).

Another thing to consider would be the method used, transmiting the 1/2 screen using the scissor method would work fine, and so would the checkerboard. The only one I could see it having serious limitations with would be the AFR method where you would still need to send the higher res throughout the frame.

IT'll be interesting to see what the technical response is to this because it 'could' be a limitation, but then again might not be. Considering the reviewers results it's definitely one right now, just question whether it is one long term (except a Humus work-around of the usually impossible within a short time ).


EDIT: AFR could be done I guess using 30hz since it only needs every other frame. Just a thought.

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[Guest]

1920x1200 is possible at 52Hz...so LCDs will be *alright* but CRTs are screwed.

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[HardWareBoss]

Thanks for your post. I don't have to read the lead post of this subject.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Read the R3D thread. I don't have time, but there's alot of knowledgeable people in there, and the important thing is some of them are either connected to reviewers or reviewers themselves.

Also that thread should evlove into having additional information. I may contribute from work if there's some down time.



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